What the Chances of

faolteam · 16 May 2017, 00:11

Another Meat Loaf Concert thats what everybody here wants ?

Sebastian. · 16 May 2017, 00:17

"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one he said."

loaferman61 · 16 May 2017, 00:22

I can't imagine one happening. He has an acting gig and has been recovering from his back issues. I can't see him doing more than a one off and even then he would probably get criticized over it, so I think he is probably done.

stretch37 · 16 May 2017, 00:27

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

I can't imagine one happening. He has an acting gig and has been recovering from his back issues. I can't see him doing more than a one off and even then he would probably get criticized over it, so I think he is probably done.

Agreed.

I think he honestly needs to rest his music career. Give it 5 years. Who knows what could happen.

proctorloaf · 16 May 2017, 00:34

In an interview with the Globe and Mail Canada today Meat, when talking about Bat the Musical said 'and all of my shows WERE really high energy' not 'all of my shows ARE...'

That sentence made my heart sink. I think we're done for Meat concerts. But Last at Bat in Manchester was a pretty amazing gig to go out on for me!

Also there would be no money in doing one show. Meat would do a tour if he was doing any more and I just don't think he's able to do it...

CarylB · 16 May 2017, 00:50

Yes, to get a promoter to back him he would have to tour, and I don't think he'd do that unless he felt he could give the high octane shows he wants to give his fans

loaferman61 · 16 May 2017, 01:45

Meat sang along a bit with "Dead Ringer" just now at the Toronto musical launch. He stayed in the background and sounded much like he did on "BTWA" from what I could hear. I was a bit surprised he sang any but he seemed to really be enjoying lending support to the young cast.

loaferman61 · 16 May 2017, 01:51

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Originally Posted by proctorloaf

In an interview with the Globe and Mail Canada today Meat, when talking about Bat the Musical said 'and all of my shows WERE really high energy' not 'all of my shows ARE...'

That sentence made my heart sink. I think we're done for Meat concerts. But Last at Bat in Manchester was a pretty amazing gig to go out on for me!

Also there would be no money in doing one show. Meat would do a tour if he was doing any more and I just don't think he's able to do it...

There wouldn't be enough money but I thought maybe a one-off for a DVD -CD release but I won't hold my breath. Like Meat says he would want it 100% and it would cost a fortune and may well lose money. I would be concerned for him if he toured. A family member has similar back issues and it takes a lot of care just not to re-injure anything.

CarylB · 16 May 2017, 02:20

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

Meat sang along a bit with "Dead Ringer" just now at the Toronto musical launch. He stayed in the background and sounded much like he did on "BTWA" from what I could hear. I was a bit surprised he sang any but he seemed to really be enjoying lending support to the young cast.

Yes, I thought that was great and he looked so happy to be doing it :) It shows just how far he has fought back .. but his final gesture to Andrew was really evocative of, as he has said, passing the stage baton on. And to safe and good hands I think .. Andrew has done as Meat counselled and found his own truth in the songs.

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

I would be concerned for him if he toured. A family member has similar back issues and it takes a lot of care just not to re-injure anything.

Much as I am saddened, I too would be concerned. It's been a long and hard fight back, and I suspect he is still in pain. He's given so much on stage for 4 decades .. I'd hate to see him undo the healing he's achieved, rather than continue acting and be creative in that aspect of his career for many years to come.

anotherday · 16 May 2017, 04:12

While I hope for one more...I'm not holding my breath. But that said...if there is one...I'll do my damnedest to be there. It was GREAT to see Meat singing again today. You could see the fire and passion in his eyes still there...If only the body were just as willing...

eltmatt · 16 May 2017, 15:12

Unfortunately I think its for the best he doesnt anytime soon, on the Bat Toronto Launch last night he could barely talk and his joining in singing reveals there's little left of his voice.

AndrewG · 16 May 2017, 15:54

It's weird. I've been interested in the Bat musical for years. Followed the whispers on Rockman for years. Now that it's finally here I'm not fussed about it all. Probably because it is exactly going hand in hand with Meat Loaf's musical / performance retirement. I guess for me the Bat music simply doesn't live beyond him so much, in fact I was more interested seeing Meat style tributes than a totally new generation doing something different with the music.

But boy was watching Meat live and following all his music a hell of a ride over the last 25+ years. The best for me out of all entertainment I can list that has inspired and wow-ed me so far.

CarylB · 16 May 2017, 17:55

I disagree with eltmatt's post which I'm not going to repeat. To say he "could barely talk" is far from what I witnessed, and given I very much doubt he'd done a vocal warm up, he sang fine too. In fact as the song progressed his voice WAS warming up and had real strength.

And he was bloody ENJOYING himself while giving centre stage to the new young performers, looking well, happy and so much slimmer. Andrew says

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But boy was watching Meat live and following all his music a hell of a ride over the last 25+ years. The best for me out of all entertainment I can list that has inspired and wow-ed me so far.

It has been

I think he's made it pretty clear he's drawn the line under touring .. but last night he was on form and looking good and happy .. can't we simply celebrate that? I think it's the least he deserves ..

loaferman61 · 16 May 2017, 19:11

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Originally Posted by eltmatt

Unfortunately I think its for the best he doesnt anytime soon, on the Bat Toronto Launch last night he could barely talk and his joining in singing reveals there's little left of his voice.

Meat wasn't there to sing. I found it good that he seemed to enjoy just being in the background for all the young performers and to give them his endorsement. Had he taken a more active vocal part he probably would have been slated for taking the focus off the cast. What he did was likely for fun just on one song. The little I heard (as he was singing along) was about the same as the last album but not enough of a sample to make any broad statement over.

lorenzoduke · 16 May 2017, 23:51

If it happens, great, I'll be there. But I don't think it will and perhaps it shouldn't. Better Meat focuses on archival releases and his acting than another stage collapse - I don't think any of us want that. Next time he might not get back up.

duke knooby · 17 May 2017, 00:30

meat's a legend... was brilliant to see him back on stage, even if only briefly

eltmatt · 17 May 2017, 14:28

You could hear his voice cracking whilst just talking.

He was out of time with even singing the bits he was trying to sing, it's an insult to how good he was to say that he was "on form". It pains me to say it but there's no way his voice is strong enough to carry a full song at the moment.

NightAngel · 18 May 2017, 02:33

Meat was awesome! He has had his back issues and that will take time but he looked awesome and he was awesome!! He looked great.. He was smiling, joined in to sing...

What more could I want to see but his happiness! Whether he tours or not is up to him. He is happy to be acting and doing so in his current roll!

What an amazing moment that was to see him in the Toronto launch!

Meat looked so happy - I am happy for him. x

CarylB · 18 May 2017, 02:54

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Originally Posted by NightAngel

Meat was awesome! He has had his back issues and that will take time but he looked awesome and he was awesome!! He looked great.. He was smiling, joined in to sing...

What more could I want to see but his happiness!

I agree :) In fact not to would seem to me rather like kicking him in the teeth. He was looking great, was great, was happy and having fun .. and the last is what it's all about

anotherday · 18 May 2017, 03:27

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Originally Posted by eltmatt

You could hear his voice cracking whilst just talking.

He was out of time with even singing the bits he was trying to sing, it's an insult to how good he was to say that he was "on form". It pains me to say it but there's no way his voice is strong enough to carry a full song at the moment.

Can we just...not.

Can we just appreciate for a minute that for 30 or so minutes (plus the Social.CA interview) Meat looked better and more importantly) happier than he has in a long time?

eltmatt · 18 May 2017, 13:49

I agree he is looking better/happier. Just don't see the need to blindly agree as seems to be the case on here that he always sounds amazing.

loaferman61 · 18 May 2017, 14:49

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Originally Posted by eltmatt

I agree he is looking better/happier. Just don't see the need to blindly agree as seems to be the case on here that he always sounds amazing.

He wasn't really there to sound amazing. I'm not even sure he intended to be on mic in the background of Dead Ringer. I think what everyone is expressing is that given his recent health problems it was nice to see him out there enjoying the moment of a new generation of a vision he has embodied for someplace close to 50 years. It was about the moment to me.

CarylB · 18 May 2017, 16:30

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

He wasn't really there to sound amazing.

Indeed, which incidentally not one single person said. Meat has pointed out that he sings with his whole body. After his first upper back surgery he was unable to sing for months, but he fought back and gave one final tour in the US. Not cancelling that when he had subsequently slipped a disc resulted in surgery which left him in even more pain and an even bigger fight back.

What some of us have been expressing is our delight to see him looking confident, happy, and able to join in and give us a brief and wonderful reminder of what we have loved for years. When watching that performance in Toronto I heard his voice before I saw he was there at the side of the stage .. it was unmistakable! For a moment I wondered what was happening .. I knew that voice, but it was not one I associated with Andrew or any other cast member. Then I saw! It was Meat

To me, like so many others, it WAS exciting, wonderful, and yes, amazing.

It was for many of us a very special moment. And to see him, so thoroughly happy at passing on the mantle of, in your words, a vision he has embodied for so many decades was for us something to celebrate, with joy rather than critique. It embodied Meat's great generosity of spirit as well as performance. I loved both, smiled at both, and was happy to see him demonstrating both again. Exciting, wonder-filled, and amazing .. just as he has been for close to 40 years flying the Bat on stage. To celebrate this is nothing less than he deserves

renegadeangel · 18 May 2017, 21:10

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Originally Posted by eltmatt

Unfortunately I think its for the best he doesnt anytime soon, on the Bat Toronto Launch last night he could barely talk and his joining in singing reveals there's little left of his voice.

Don't know if you were there but I was and thought Meat looked good and sounded fine.

nightinr · 18 May 2017, 21:28

Yep Meat definitely looked the best he's looked in public for a while so that's great to see.

Meat is probably a victim of his own success....the punishing tours and the punishing schedules over the years.

One bit of advice for Meat....sack the hair stylist. The hair looks best black not ginger!

16 May 2017, 00:11	#1
faolteam Super Loafer Join Date: 28.05.2002 Posts: 244	What the Chances of Another Meat Loaf Concert thats what everybody here wants ?

16 May 2017, 00:17	#2
Sebastian. Biggles Join Date: 15.02.2011 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,030	"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one he said."

16 May 2017, 00:22	#3
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	I can't imagine one happening. He has an acting gig and has been recovering from his back issues. I can't see him doing more than a one off and even then he would probably get criticized over it, so I think he is probably done.

16 May 2017, 00:34	#5
proctorloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 28.02.2010 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 357	In an interview with the Globe and Mail Canada today Meat, when talking about Bat the Musical said 'and all of my shows WERE really high energy' not 'all of my shows ARE...' That sentence made my heart sink. I think we're done for Meat concerts. But Last at Bat in Manchester was a pretty amazing gig to go out on for me! Also there would be no money in doing one show. Meat would do a tour if he was doing any more and I just don't think he's able to do it...

16 May 2017, 00:50	#6
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Yes, to get a promoter to back him he would have to tour, and I don't think he'd do that unless he felt he could give the high octane shows he wants to give his fans

16 May 2017, 01:45	#7
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	Meat sang along a bit with "Dead Ringer" just now at the Toronto musical launch. He stayed in the background and sounded much like he did on "BTWA" from what I could hear. I was a bit surprised he sang any but he seemed to really be enjoying lending support to the young cast.

16 May 2017, 04:12	#10
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 802	While I hope for one more...I'm not holding my breath. But that said...if there is one...I'll do my damnedest to be there. It was GREAT to see Meat singing again today. You could see the fire and passion in his eyes still there...If only the body were just as willing...

16 May 2017, 15:12	#11
eltmatt Super Loafer Join Date: 04.03.2010 Posts: 206	Unfortunately I think its for the best he doesnt anytime soon, on the Bat Toronto Launch last night he could barely talk and his joining in singing reveals there's little left of his voice.

16 May 2017, 15:54	#12
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,084	It's weird. I've been interested in the Bat musical for years. Followed the whispers on Rockman for years. Now that it's finally here I'm not fussed about it all. Probably because it is exactly going hand in hand with Meat Loaf's musical / performance retirement. I guess for me the Bat music simply doesn't live beyond him so much, in fact I was more interested seeing Meat style tributes than a totally new generation doing something different with the music. But boy was watching Meat live and following all his music a hell of a ride over the last 25+ years. The best for me out of all entertainment I can list that has inspired and wow-ed me so far.

16 May 2017, 23:51	#15
lorenzoduke Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.07.2006 Posts: 1,269	If it happens, great, I'll be there. But I don't think it will and perhaps it shouldn't. Better Meat focuses on archival releases and his acting than another stage collapse - I don't think any of us want that. Next time he might not get back up.

17 May 2017, 00:30	#16
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,909	meat's a legend... was brilliant to see him back on stage, even if only briefly

17 May 2017, 14:28	#17
eltmatt Super Loafer Join Date: 04.03.2010 Posts: 206	You could hear his voice cracking whilst just talking. He was out of time with even singing the bits he was trying to sing, it's an insult to how good he was to say that he was "on form". It pains me to say it but there's no way his voice is strong enough to carry a full song at the moment.

18 May 2017, 02:33	#18
NightAngel Loafer Join Date: 13.04.2014 Location: Sydney Posts: 94	Meat was awesome! He has had his back issues and that will take time but he looked awesome and he was awesome!! He looked great.. He was smiling, joined in to sing... What more could I want to see but his happiness! Whether he tours or not is up to him. He is happy to be acting and doing so in his current roll! What an amazing moment that was to see him in the Toronto launch! Meat looked so happy - I am happy for him. x

18 May 2017, 13:49	#21
eltmatt Super Loafer Join Date: 04.03.2010 Posts: 206	I agree he is looking better/happier. Just don't see the need to blindly agree as seems to be the case on here that he always sounds amazing.

18 May 2017, 21:28	#25
nightinr Super Loafer Join Date: 04.09.2011 Posts: 370	Yep Meat definitely looked the best he's looked in public for a while so that's great to see. Meat is probably a victim of his own success....the punishing tours and the punishing schedules over the years. One bit of advice for Meat....sack the hair stylist. The hair looks best black not ginger!