Was the 'Wetten, Dass?' performance mimed? - Page 2

Sue K · 13 Aug 2012, 00:12

It was live ...

Wario · 13 Aug 2012, 00:14

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I believe this is the post that most people are referring too, as Weeten Daas was mentioned towards the end.

Does it really matter if it was mimed or not? I could care less, it was a good performance, at a time when one was needed, and it probably helped sell a few records along the way. I for one enjoyed the performance and have it on my phone so that I can listen to it regularly.

On a side note, I find it interesting that certain people are apparently employed by the Weeten Daas program and were also there mixing the board that night. Because that is the only way that said person could know with "100%" certainty that this, and every other Weeten Daas performance ever done was mimed. I just love when people present opinion as complete fact. Sure, some people probably do mime on the show, but I'm guessing many sing live. I for one believe Meat sang live that night, and I am perfectly content to believe that.

I have been to 4 different shows on this current tour, and I know first hand that he is perfectly capable of delivering a performance on par, if not better than that on Weeten Daas, despite what you and your many bootlegs may think.

Ahhhh overlooked that. so it was a stereo backing track! cool

**Monstro** · 13 Aug 2012, 02:41

Dying to say "who gives a shit it was a great performance" but will stay quiet lol

razorball2002 · 13 Aug 2012, 08:13

Yeah if i understand it correctly he is honest and admits it was a playback. Respect for that. To the other guy who says i cant judge if a performance is mimed or not and need to be at the mixing desk in order to do that, is this a joke?

seriously??

ninja · 13 Aug 2012, 12:06

the wetten dass performance was incredible good. just wow. and i wanna say thank you very much to meat, because he came to germany for doing that. made me very happy

MarkS · 13 Aug 2012, 14:27

I read it as a setup similar to the AFL. Band pre recorded while Meat and Patti sing live.

Razor ball, not joking at all. You are presenting an opinion as stone cold fact. If you had stated it as opinion then fair enough, but don't present it as fact

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razorball2002 · 13 Aug 2012, 15:16

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I read it as a setup similar to the AFL. Band pre recorded while Meat and Patti sing live.

Razor ball, not joking at all. You are presenting an opinion as stone cold fact. If you had stated it as opinion then fair enough, but don't present it as fact
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Is this an order? OK General!

No just kidding, I don't see why I should present it as an opinion (I think that etc...) when for a fact I know it. I havent been at the mixing desk, I have been watching the show for 20 years now, and EVERY artist was miming. Some do it well, some don't. Its like TOTP, artists HAVE to mime, they arent even allowed to sing live. On the contrary, on shows like Leno and the other guy I'm forgetting the name, they HAVE to sing live. Wetten Dass is always playback, and if you watch MLs lips closely during AFL, you'll see that you dont have to go through the university of sound engineers to post such a statement.

Dave · 13 Aug 2012, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Monstro

Dying to say "who gives a shit it was a great performance" but will stay quiet lol

I won't....I will say who gives a sh!t, it was a great performance. How ya like that with your morning coffee?

MarkS · 13 Aug 2012, 16:56

Sorry but you have no way of having 100 percent knowledge on the matter so that downgrades it from fact to opinion

Side note, I what ToTP?

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razorball2002 · 13 Aug 2012, 17:32

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Sorry but you have no way of having 100 percent knowledge on the matter so that downgrades it from fact to opinion

Side note, I what ToTP?

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Top of the Pops, an english show where, like in Wetten Dass, they all mime. Even though there might be a few artists (but very few) who dont mime at TOTP. Wetten Dass, I havent seen a single artist not mime. Call it an opinion or a fact, I won't start a battle here over entertainment!

Sebastian. · 13 Aug 2012, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Dave

I won't....I will say who gives a sh!t, it was a great performance. How ya like that with your morning coffee?

And the gif to go with it:

**The Flying Mouse** · 13 Aug 2012, 20:08

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Originally Posted by razorball2002

Wario: I am absolutely 100% sure it was mimed

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Originally Posted by MarkS

On a side note, I find it interesting that certain people are apparently employed by the Weeten Daas program and were also there mixing the board that night. Because that is the only way that said person could know with "100%" certainty that this, and every other Weeten Daas performance ever done was mimed. I just love when people present opinion as complete fact. Sure, some people probably do mime on the show, but I'm guessing many sing live. I for one believe Meat sang live that night, and I am perfectly content to believe that.

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Originally Posted by razorball2002

To the other guy who says i cant judge if a performance is mimed or not and need to be at the mixing desk in order to do that, is this a joke?

seriously??

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS

Razor ball, not joking at all. You are presenting an opinion as stone cold fact. If you had stated it as opinion then fair enough, but don't present it as fact

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorball2002

Is this an order? OK General!

No just kidding, I don't see why I should present it as an opinion (I think that etc...) when for a fact I know it. I havent been at the mixing desk, I have been watching the show for 20 years now, and EVERY artist was miming.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Sorry but you have no way of having 100 percent knowledge on the matter so that downgrades it from fact to opinion

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Originally Posted by razorball2002

Call it an opinion or a fact, I won't start a battle here over entertainment!

It sometimes comes to a point on a forum where you have seen the same argument so many times you no longer need to post, just reference your past posts.

Same argument, previous thread, still applies

stretch37 · 13 Aug 2012, 20:37

....i was half hoping you'd have just shut down the thread

Wario · 13 Aug 2012, 20:39

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Originally Posted by stretch37

....i was half hoping you'd have just shut down the thread

why? its kind debate. this palce has been somewhat laking that lately with every post the last week or two being in offtopic or the drop/add song thread

Paul Richardson · 13 Aug 2012, 23:37

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Originally Posted by stretch37

....i was half hoping you'd have just shut down the thread

... and stifle an interesting debate ? Why ?

stretch37 · 13 Aug 2012, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

... and stifle an interesting debate ? Why ?

As Mouse said its already heading down that path....I actually liked the convo to begin with, but it seems to be upsetting people.

Its interested me as well whether or not it was mimed, and will continue to do so forever unless we get answers :P But I'm trying to just not worry about it. It'll just upset Meat.

Wario · 13 Aug 2012, 23:52

WHo cares? hats the reason its been dead here lately.

Paul Richardson · 13 Aug 2012, 23:59

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Originally Posted by stretch37

As Mouse said its already heading down that path ... I actually liked the convo to begin with, but it seems to be upsetting people.

Only to those of a sensitive / nervous disposition.

If Meat did mime, then I'm not going to think less of him, but I'm interested whether he did or not nonetheless - especially following the AFL final.

Adje · 14 Aug 2012, 00:56

Wetten Das is known for having the artist playback their own songs. I don't even think Meat really had a choise. But if it's that sensitive to people, remember he did the live vocals for the recording they used. So basically it's a mime of his own live recording which means everybody is right

Wario · 14 Aug 2012, 01:04

exactly, and notice how much similar took teh words sounds to the wetten performance from this promo clip:

YouTube Video

melon · 14 Aug 2012, 01:58

This isn't an interesting debate

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AndrewG · 14 Aug 2012, 13:57

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This isn't an interesting debate

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"Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection."
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Sue K · 14 Aug 2012, 14:04

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

"Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection."
-Neal Boortz

See ?... Now THERE'S something neato to debate... Let the games begin ...

... hahaha ... xo

**The Flying Mouse** · 14 Aug 2012, 14:39

OK, enough with the thread crapping please.

Can we continue on topic rather than have the same old debate wether the topic should have brought up in the first place.
All this back and forth is getting us nowhere and will get the thread locked, and as that seems to happen a hell of a lot to "unpopular" threads

, i'm feeling more inclined to get the rule book out and give away some free infractions rather than lock it.

If we thought that Wario had crossed the line we would have deleted the thread by now.

If you think something has crossed the line and dosn't belong on the forum, report it to us rather than debate it on the forum.
We will take it from there.

If a thread simply isn't to your taste, ignore it.

As for the subject itself, I agree that it's a great performance, so it doesn't matter a great deal to me if, and to what extent, it was mimed.
I know some TV shows have a lot (if not all) of their musical guests mime, but we've heard what Meat has said, and i'm happy to take him at his word.
After all, he was there

Plus being the last show, i've a feeling they'd want to do something special, and they certainly got it

duke knooby · 14 Aug 2012, 14:42

free infractions... cool

the only thing that bothers me is the use of the word mime

i much prefer lip synched lol

13 Aug 2012, 00:12	#26
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	It was live ...

13 Aug 2012, 02:41	#28
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Dying to say "who gives a shit it was a great performance" but will stay quiet lol

13 Aug 2012, 08:13	#29
razorball2002 Guest Join Date: 20.03.2006 Posts: 86	Yeah if i understand it correctly he is honest and admits it was a playback. Respect for that. To the other guy who says i cant judge if a performance is mimed or not and need to be at the mixing desk in order to do that, is this a joke? seriously??

13 Aug 2012, 12:06	#30
ninja Super Loafer Join Date: 14.02.2012 Location: Bavaria Posts: 440	the wetten dass performance was incredible good. just wow. and i wanna say thank you very much to meat, because he came to germany for doing that. made me very happy

13 Aug 2012, 14:27	#31
MarkS Super Loafer Join Date: 20.03.2012 Posts: 313	I read it as a setup similar to the AFL. Band pre recorded while Meat and Patti sing live. Razor ball, not joking at all. You are presenting an opinion as stone cold fact. If you had stated it as opinion then fair enough, but don't present it as fact Sent from my 4G LTE Samsung Galaxy S III using Forum Runner

13 Aug 2012, 16:56	#34
MarkS Super Loafer Join Date: 20.03.2012 Posts: 313	Sorry but you have no way of having 100 percent knowledge on the matter so that downgrades it from fact to opinion Side note, I what ToTP? Sent from my 4G LTE Samsung Galaxy S III using Forum Runner

13 Aug 2012, 20:37	#38
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,120	....i was half hoping you'd have just shut down the thread

13 Aug 2012, 23:52	#42
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	WHo cares? hats the reason its been dead here lately.

14 Aug 2012, 00:56	#44
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,966	Wetten Das is known for having the artist playback their own songs. I don't even think Meat really had a choise. But if it's that sensitive to people, remember he did the live vocals for the recording they used. So basically it's a mime of his own live recording which means everybody is right

14 Aug 2012, 01:58	#46
melon Long Distance Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 4,586	This isn't an interesting debate Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Forum Runner

14 Aug 2012, 14:39	#49
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	OK, enough with the thread crapping please. Can we continue on topic rather than have the same old debate wether the topic should have brought up in the first place. All this back and forth is getting us nowhere and will get the thread locked, and as that seems to happen a hell of a lot to "unpopular" threads , i'm feeling more inclined to get the rule book out and give away some free infractions rather than lock it. If we thought that Wario had crossed the line we would have deleted the thread by now. If you think something has crossed the line and dosn't belong on the forum, report it to us rather than debate it on the forum. We will take it from there. If a thread simply isn't to your taste, ignore it. As for the subject itself, I agree that it's a great performance, so it doesn't matter a great deal to me if, and to what extent, it was mimed. I know some TV shows have a lot (if not all) of their musical guests mime, but we've heard what Meat has said, and i'm happy to take him at his word. After all, he was there Plus being the last show, i've a feeling they'd want to do something special, and they certainly got it

14 Aug 2012, 14:42	#50
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,909	free infractions... cool the only thing that bothers me is the use of the word mime i much prefer lip synched lol