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Old 09 Nov 2011, 20:20   #1
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Exclamation Compact Disks to be discontinued in 2013?

I put this in general messages cause this will effect meat:

http://smarthouse.com.au/Real_Sound/Industry/N6R5K9D5
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 20:33   #2
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One obscure article in the Australian press does not a reality make.

Fact is that in the last year physical sales have exceeded download sales.

Moved to off topic as it doesn't effect Meat lol
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 20:37   #3
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The GP tour has taught me that the Austalian press is mostly BS.
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 21:15   #4
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It better not be real, it's not that long since I found out they don't do VHS anymore!!! I can't take any more change!
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 21:56   #5
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CD and DVD will go by the wayside sometime in the next 3 to 5 years. Video will primarily be streaming with popular titles. If you limit yourself to legal downloads physical CD's may still outsell digital, but only if you place that qualifier on it. Otherwise, no way digital does not crush physical discs. This is why the music industry has fallen off, they failed to adapt with the times and what people want. Companies like Amazon and Netflix are trying not to make that mistake with video. If you check most DVD and CD titles at Amazon it will tell only a few copies are in stock. They don't want to be stuck with them.
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 22:49   #6
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I put this in general messages cause this will effect meat:

http://smarthouse.com.au/Real_Sound/Industry/N6R5K9D5
That will suck if that happens Especially for Meat! I hope all music won't just go to itunes either. I don't have an iPhone or iPod, and just have a normal mp3 player. Can't say I'll pay big money for an iPod neither.

Anyway I hope it doesn't happen, but with technology these days, it is inevitable
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 22:53   #7
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That will suck if that happens Especially for Meat! I hope all music won't just go to itunes either. I don't have an iPhone or iPod, and just have a normal mp3 player. Can't say I'll pay big money for an iPod neither.

Anyway I hope it doesn't happen, but with technology these days, it is inevitable
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The GP tour has taught me that the Austalian press is mostly BS.
Couldn't agree more mate!! Our press down here, especially during Meat's tour, are complete arses If it ain't good enough to print, then they add their spin just to sell a damn paper! They don't give a shit about who they hurt or who's reputation they hurt in the long run either Anyone would think that their shit doesn't stink, the way they carry on and treat people
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 22:57   #8
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It better not be real, it's not that long since I found out they don't do VHS anymore!!! I can't take any more change!
He he he, I feel the same way lol! It takes me long enough to work out how to use the new technology they have today. It took me long enough to learn how to do the basics on this site. Although I'm still learning though
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Old 09 Nov 2011, 23:34   #9
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Really hope it's not true, it will be a sad day for music when that happens.

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Old 09 Nov 2011, 23:48   #10
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That will suck if that happens Especially for Meat! I hope all music won't just go to itunes either. I don't have an iPhone or iPod, and just have a normal mp3 player. Can't say I'll pay big money for an iPod neither.

Anyway I hope it doesn't happen, but with technology these days, it is inevitable
iTunes sells mp3's, so you shouldn't need to have an iPod or iPhone to play them, I would think any device that plays mp3's would do. Although, it may be a bit more challenging to manage your library. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) Regardless, I don't think it would ever go to that, as that's like saying that only one specific store is allowed to sell CD's.

I would hope that some sort of physical format will continue to exist, whether it be CD's, or some other type of format. Digital does seem to be the wave of the future, though, unfortunately. I'm sure the labels love it because it's probably more cost effective for them, but as for music, I think quality suffers. For movies, I feel differently, as there aren't many that I watch frequently in the same way that I listen to music frequently, so I like rentals and streaming. Pretty much the only DVD's I still buy are music concerts.
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 03:34   #11
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This affects Meat the same as any other band. Do people even really buy physical CD's anymore? It's a digital world, thanks to Apple and the iTunes revolution, music buying will never be the same. Remember Tower Records?
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 05:39   #12
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Do people even really buy physical CD's anymore?
Yep, I do. As I said, I think the audio quality is better than the normal didgital download, although high quality digital files are becoming available. I also like the built-in backup that it provides, as well as some versatilty, as I can either put the music on my iPod, or listen to the disc directly at home or in the car. (CD's burned from mp3's aren't of the same quality) Plus, I like having the booklets that come with CD's, although they pale in comparison to vinyl covers.

Also, people of a certain generation aren't as comfortable with technology as the young'uns are.
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 08:45   #13
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Not gonna happen. At least not any time soon.

The proposed alternative, just selling mp3s online through iTunes/Amazon/etc. just isn't ready yet. Record companies can ship CDs all over the world, yet making files available internationally by using the internet? "Nah, we can't do that, because, omg, borders!"

As long as there's not an easy to use, international, cross-platform way to sell music online without all those ridiculous licensing and DRM issues, I don't see CDs going anywhere anytime soon.
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 10:38   #14
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Yep, I do. As I said, I think the audio quality is better than the normal didgital download, although high quality digital files are becoming available. I also like the built-in backup that it provides, as well as some versatilty, as I can either put the music on my iPod, or listen to the disc directly at home or in the car. (CD's burned from mp3's aren't of the same quality) Plus, I like having the booklets that come with CD's, although they pale in comparison to vinyl covers.
Me also, and we're not alone by any means. Just as I prefer a decent, proper book. There's a pleasure in holding a CD, enjoying the cover, reading the booklet. I don't have an iPod, don't particularly want one, like to sit back and share music, and still copy my CDs onto cassette because that's what I have in my car where I find them easier and safe to use

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Also, people of a certain generation aren't as comfortable with technology as the young'uns are.
And sometimes simply don't see certain aspects are a huge improvement I still prefer VHS to DVD for its biddability As I said above prefer a proper book, and have yet to find any benefit in TV having gone digital that outweighs the inconvenience without investing more money in machinery industry wants to peddle. I'm perfectly comfortable with technology I see as improving my lot, but I like choice .. and that applied to in terms of how I decide to use what money I have

And I still would rather make a cake than buy one, prefer to slice a loaf (and to make my bread most of the time), have used a microwave for decades and use it for more than heating food and cooking frozen peas but would give it up rather than an oven, make soup rather than buy a tin or packet. and would need to be literally starving to even take the top off a pot noodle! And even then I think roast rat might be a better option

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Indeed .. nor a poll define and decide a set list or the contents of an album

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Old 10 Nov 2011, 11:38   #15
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Me also, and we're not alone by any means. Just as I prefer a decent, proper book. There's a pleasure in holding a CD, enjoying the cover, reading the booklet. I don't have an iPod, don't particularly want one, like to sit back and share music, and still copy my CDs onto cassette because that's what I have in my car where I find them easier and safe to use
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Exactly! I want to hold a CD in my hands! See the physical artwork, read the booklet etc. I always read proper books too as opposed to digital ones. I've only got one digital book and that's because it wasn't made into hardback or paperback.
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 11:40   #16
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I have friends that work at music stores I asked them & they say they have been told CD's will be around for the forseable future but maybe not produced in huge numbers. They say that they expect that apart from highly promoted items or new releases they will be gradually moving towards just a single copy in store.

One of them said that they are already looking at new store layouts in preparation for installation of terminals where you can plug your mp3 device & purchase/download directly to capture the market that does not have internet connection. For me the most interesting tip was to watch out for Blu-Ray audio discs to start feeding in alongside CD's they would open up a whole new ball game in terms of audio quality & content.
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 12:19   #17
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Bring back vinyl!
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 12:48   #18
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I thought Vinyls were back? They made a big comeback a few years gao.
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 12:50   #19
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 23:25   #20
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Was also reported here last month, so not an invention of the Oz press : http://www.side-line.com/news_commen...=46980_0_2_0_C
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Old 10 Nov 2011, 23:54   #21
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things change, not always for the better, but if there is still a market, still demand, i don't think we'll see the demise of the cd for a while yet.. vinyl records are still sought after and still available... though the same cant be said for 35mm film, audio cassette, betamax, vhs, laserdisc etc etc so its probably ultimately inevitable
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Old 11 Nov 2011, 00:12   #22
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things change, not always for the better, but if there is still a market, still demand, i don't think we'll see the demise of the cd for a while yet.. vinyl records are still sought after and still available... though the same cant be said for 35mm film, audio cassette, betamax, vhs, laserdisc etc etc so its probably ultimately inevitable
35mm film is still available. Thats what they project movies still and studios and filmmakers still put their movies on film.
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35mm film is still available. Thats what they project movies still and studios and filmmakers still put their movies on film.
you are indeed correct, my mistake... why is 35mm still used?
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Old 11 Nov 2011, 01:08   #24
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you are indeed correct, my mistake... why is 35mm still used?
Did I read somewhere that there's a display, I think at the Tate, showing the first film shot entirely without film?
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you are indeed correct, my mistake... why is 35mm still used?
With film its mainly used for quality check. Putting something on a peice of film enhances the quality a lot, that's why the movies you see in theaters look so much better in a theater.

35mm standard is what most HD cameras (like the red) are modeled after.

35mm negatives are also used for back up in case something happens to the digital copy.

Movies are not shot on 35mm camera film, though. they are just transferred onto them after color correction.

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Did I read somewhere that there's a display, I think at the Tate, showing the first film shot entirely without film?
I think you are correct. I remember a professor talkin gabou tsomethin galong those lines
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