Celebrity Apprentice Episode #5

suzieq · 04 Apr 2011, 06:00

I'm taking it upon myself not to recap this episode. I understand Meat Loaf having to deal with the aftermath of what got cut on the edit room floor. Out of respect of feelings/embarrassment I'm not going to make Meat Loaf relive it.

I do recommend everyone to watch the episode once it is up online. A lot of things did happen and they weren't all negative.

Suzieq

Wario · 04 Apr 2011, 06:24

short and sweet bullet points. dont view unless you already saw:

kkzag · 04 Apr 2011, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq

I'm taking it upon myself not to recap this episode. I understand Meat Loaf having to deal with the aftermath of what got cut on the edit room floor. Out of respect of feelings/embarrassment I'm not going to make Meat Loaf relive it.

I do recommend everyone to watch the episode once it is up online. A lot of things did happen and they weren't all negative.

Suzieq

Good choice Suz...couldn't agree more. Was liteally on the edge of my seat for that entire show.

GREAT JOB TEAM BACKBONE!

Kar

kkzag · 04 Apr 2011, 07:27

I do have a question, without spoiling...just in general.

If a losing team has the ability to keep their earnings...does it go to the celeb's individual charity of choice? or all to the project manangers charity?

I'm sure I could find the answer somewhere...too tired to start "googling" though! :)

Thanks!

Kar

BostonAngel · 04 Apr 2011, 07:54

As far as I know, it goes to the Project Manager's charity. That is the way it has worked in the past. It is very rare however that the losing team gets to keep their earnings. Go Meat Loaf and Team Backbone

carole · 04 Apr 2011, 14:57

Just finished watching it. One thing that really pissed me off was Donald cutting Meat off in the boardroom when he was trying to explain what happened. Every time Meat started to speak, he talked over him and wouldn't let him finish what he was sayng. That really bugs me when people do that. I'm looking forward to seeing Meat's video explaining what went on behind the scenes. Both teams did really well. I think Marlee Matlin was the best project manager for the women so far, and not so much bitching and backstabbing going on this week.

Carole

CarylB · 04 Apr 2011, 15:44

JR was Backbone's choice for leader, and from what we saw on the programme I formed the impression that the team were already decided on this, and that their planning starts before they're put on the spot in the boardroom. I liked his quick response to Trump when the latter said he was an odd choice for this task .. and he proved an effective leader. He recognised success would turn on the celebrities calling in favours, before anything else made a phone call and said he would pull in $500,000, and then laid his cards on the table, saying each needed to call on their contacts and he would use their success as the determining factor on who he held responsible in the boardroom. In the event he raised most of Backbone's total to emphasise his reply to Trump .. His "hillbilly" world (dismissed rather rudely by Jose and Hatch in the Camping World task), came through for him just as he forecast and promised, exceeding his target.

A nice irony then that Hatch ended up being fired this week. Jose withdrew early in the task because of his father's failing health, but was given $25,000 for his charity by Trump. It was a warm gesture of Backbone to decide to dedicate one of the hats to him and his family, although to lukewarm agreement from Hatch who later suggested to camera that Jose had used his father's illness as an excuse to avoid the task. Hatch is a rather graceless man who I won't miss. Jose has not been much of an asset, and had expressed his doubts that he could call in anything much by way of favours; well yeah, dish the dirt on all those in the business that's given you "celebrity" status, and when you try tapping into your rolladex you'll reap the whirlwind Jose

However, Hatch's comment was poor form, and as he, too, knew and had said he would not be able to call in much money, imo he had been hoping that should Backbone lose Jose would be the lowest contributor of donations. The removal of this safety net in my view probably motivated the comment and speaks volumes about Hatch's character.

Marlee, too, opened her leadership of the task very clearly, stating she wanted no in-fighting or back-stabbing (and indeed there was less this week), but to have ASAP working as a team. She asked LaToya (who has been wittering on about not being given significant responsibility) to harness her family connections, and to camera said she was in effect calling her bluff. And given the Jackson connection I thought it interesting that LaToya's "to camera" was all about her family being in LA so there was no time for them to send things, missing the point imo this was about calling in the widest level of donation support. JR's "hillybillies" were in Texas after all, and he had immediately pledged to get a huge amount raised. However, her Tshirt was rewarded by one of Marlee's big donors, and praised by Trump .. as I've come to expect. Her hat was always going to be the winner imo. Most of them were not overly inspired

She had the wit to play to the Jackson memory, and the silver glove was brilliant.

Like the first task, this was about raising money and success turned on the celebrities calling in favours. Imo Backbone better organised and executed the actual task of filling and opening their art gallery, but despite JR's massive support and heroic efforts, in the end Marlee managed to pull in an even greater level of support for her charity, and as with the first project, ASAP proved better at pulling in donations. Marlee made it clear throughout that she was focused on donations; JR imo made a better job of organising the task, managing the deadlines, and managing the team, having first harnessed his contributors. But ultimately Marlee's focus on harnessing donations won it for her, so despite the frantic last minute setting up of the gallery, her arguably lesser leadership of the team and task itself was irrelevant; she had access to the widest community of support for her charity, and put her emphasis there, where it would have most effect.

When Trump asked if the leaders might agree to the losing team having their raised money for their nominated charity, JR was quick and first to agree, even though he thought he was winning. Marlee's expectation that despite Jose's leaving, someone should be fired from Backbone was fair ..

Two effective leaders whose style and personalities I liked.

As far as what could become the elephant in the room .. the incident itself has been amply discussed here, Meat has explained it was a last straw event, and doubtless it will be the blog headline the producers wanted and aimed for. I agree with Carole that Trump gave it a rather excessive laundering and tended to speak over Meat. However, I would hope viewers of the series will have been, like me, very impressed by Meat's honesty, decency, openness and heartfelt taking of responsibility and apology in the aftermath; these are qualities which to me are the more important hallmarks of his character, and should also feature in reviews/blogs. In the best possible way, he's an even bigger man in my eyes. It's done and gone. JR managed the situation perfectly, and the team showed their collective closeness and team-spirit.

Meat re-grouped, refocused and made his usual energetic and comitted contribution. I loved his "Butterflies In The Park"

Now we can continue to enjoy watching that focus, drive and determination, and significant contribution to the objectives and motivation of the team he's working with.

Caryl

CarylB · 04 Apr 2011, 17:33

Just to add, quotes of the week from JR who has a brilliant turn of phrase

"Are you all hat and no cattle?"

and the glorious description of Busey:

"Like a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd in a frozen pond .. just spinning!!"

Caryl

realViking · 04 Apr 2011, 23:49

I`v just watched the Celebrity Apprentice Episode, one day later than you Guys in the US.

No one is Perfect, and the way Meat handeled it at the end of the episode 5, really shows us what A great Guy he is! No wonder why we Love him so much!
He is just like anyone of us (beside that he really CAN sing)

And I guess everyone of us, have once lost their temper....A`m I right?? I`v lost my temper many times, and I`m not proud of it, but that doesn`t make me A bad person anyway...

I`v just watched the episode, one day later than you Guys in the US. And wow, what an Episode!!!

Thanks for listening,folks...

By the way, I really like this forum. So many nice people to talk to. Not many from Norway here, but doesn`t matter, when there are so nice people from all over the world here.

And of course, That Meat sometimes writes in here, makes it more special...

**Monstro** · 05 Apr 2011, 00:13

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farmertom · 05 Apr 2011, 02:26

Just watched it online!

To be honest Meat didnt come out as too bad!!! I would have done what he did a LONG time ago with Gary he would drive me absolutely crackers!

By the looks of next weeks trailer, the rest of the team is doing what Meat did this week! It was a good episode with some incredible amounts of money been raised

LisaT · 05 Apr 2011, 02:54

Just watched the show. I found it a little uncomfortable to watch but, at the end of the day, my respect for Meat has just grown stronger. Yes, he made a mistake; but the way that he sincerely apologised to Gary was, I think, very admirable.

kkzag · 05 Apr 2011, 16:32

Excellent summary Caryl!

The straw that broke the camels.....

The bread crumb that broke the meat's back (bone)..LOL!

And I know Meat said it wasn't about art supplies...but rewind. Meat had the paint in his cart...Gary had next to nothing in his "basket"... just sayin.

Kar

Sue K · 05 Apr 2011, 22:35

The blow-up was totally frightening to me. All I could think was I'd NEVER want to have that directed at me. The apology was moving, passionate, sincere and I cried.

It's all good and fine job, Chiefie ... xo

carole · 05 Apr 2011, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by tink

The blow-up was totally frightening to me. All I could think was I'd NEVER want to have that directed at me. The apology was moving, passionate, sincere and I cried.

It's all good and fine job, Chiefie ... xo

I agree tink, I wouldn't like that anger directed at me either, but Gary did have it coming, and Meat's apology was very moving, I cried too.

Carole

04 Apr 2011, 06:00	#1
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	Celebrity Apprentice Episode #5 I'm taking it upon myself not to recap this episode. I understand Meat Loaf having to deal with the aftermath of what got cut on the edit room floor. Out of respect of feelings/embarrassment I'm not going to make Meat Loaf relive it. I do recommend everyone to watch the episode once it is up online. A lot of things did happen and they weren't all negative. Suzieq

04 Apr 2011, 06:24	#2
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	WARNING SPOILERS short and sweet bullet points. dont view unless you already saw: Meat and Gary fight for like five minutes then later hug. it wasnt a big deal Meat raised a whopping 11 thousand dollars Cameo Appearances by: Trace Adkin's wife, Eddie Montgomery, and Two Foot Fred Donald wasnt as kind to meat in the BR this week. you just need to watch RICHARD HASH IS FIRED JOSE QUITS TO BE WITH HIS DEATHLY FATHER Next episode: PIRATES AND SUN SCREEN

04 Apr 2011, 17:33	#8
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Just to add, quotes of the week from JR who has a brilliant turn of phrase "Are you all hat and no cattle?" and the glorious description of Busey: "Like a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd in a frozen pond .. just spinning!!" Caryl Last edited by CarylB; 04 Apr 2011 at 18:14.

04 Apr 2011, 23:49	#9
realViking Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.12.2010 Location: Northen Norway, In The Cold VikingLand, the place where the Real Viking Girls lives ;-) Posts: 161	THE REAL MEAT LOAF in CA episode 5 I`v just watched the Celebrity Apprentice Episode, one day later than you Guys in the US. No one is Perfect, and the way Meat handeled it at the end of the episode 5, really shows us what A great Guy he is! No wonder why we Love him so much! He is just like anyone of us (beside that he really CAN sing) And I guess everyone of us, have once lost their temper....A`m I right?? I`v lost my temper many times, and I`m not proud of it, but that doesn`t make me A bad person anyway... I`v just watched the episode, one day later than you Guys in the US. And wow, what an Episode!!! Thanks for listening,folks... By the way, I really like this forum. So many nice people to talk to. Not many from Norway here, but doesn`t matter, when there are so nice people from all over the world here. And of course, That Meat sometimes writes in here, makes it more special...

05 Apr 2011, 22:35	#14
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	Happy Tuesday, meatie peeps ! The blow-up was totally frightening to me. All I could think was I'd NEVER want to have that directed at me. The apology was moving, passionate, sincere and I cried. It's all good and fine job, Chiefie ... xo

04 Apr 2011, 07:27	#4
kkzag Senior Loafer Join Date: 10.05.2010 Location: Spring Hill, Florida Posts: 197	I do have a question, without spoiling...just in general. If a losing team has the ability to keep their earnings...does it go to the celeb's individual charity of choice? or all to the project manangers charity? I'm sure I could find the answer somewhere...too tired to start "googling" though! :) Thanks! Kar

04 Apr 2011, 07:54	#5
BostonAngel Super Loafer Join Date: 03.02.2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 822	As far as I know, it goes to the Project Manager's charity. That is the way it has worked in the past. It is very rare however that the losing team gets to keep their earnings. Go Meat Loaf and Team Backbone

04 Apr 2011, 14:57	#6
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	Just finished watching it. One thing that really pissed me off was Donald cutting Meat off in the boardroom when he was trying to explain what happened. Every time Meat started to speak, he talked over him and wouldn't let him finish what he was sayng. That really bugs me when people do that. I'm looking forward to seeing Meat's video explaining what went on behind the scenes. Both teams did really well. I think Marlee Matlin was the best project manager for the women so far, and not so much bitching and backstabbing going on this week. Carole

04 Apr 2011, 15:44	#7
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	JR was Backbone's choice for leader, and from what we saw on the programme I formed the impression that the team were already decided on this, and that their planning starts before they're put on the spot in the boardroom. I liked his quick response to Trump when the latter said he was an odd choice for this task .. and he proved an effective leader. He recognised success would turn on the celebrities calling in favours, before anything else made a phone call and said he would pull in $500,000, and then laid his cards on the table, saying each needed to call on their contacts and he would use their success as the determining factor on who he held responsible in the boardroom. In the event he raised most of Backbone's total to emphasise his reply to Trump .. His "hillbilly" world (dismissed rather rudely by Jose and Hatch in the Camping World task), came through for him just as he forecast and promised, exceeding his target. A nice irony then that Hatch ended up being fired this week. Jose withdrew early in the task because of his father's failing health, but was given $25,000 for his charity by Trump. It was a warm gesture of Backbone to decide to dedicate one of the hats to him and his family, although to lukewarm agreement from Hatch who later suggested to camera that Jose had used his father's illness as an excuse to avoid the task. Hatch is a rather graceless man who I won't miss. Jose has not been much of an asset, and had expressed his doubts that he could call in anything much by way of favours; well yeah, dish the dirt on all those in the business that's given you "celebrity" status, and when you try tapping into your rolladex you'll reap the whirlwind Jose However, Hatch's comment was poor form, and as he, too, knew and had said he would not be able to call in much money, imo he had been hoping that should Backbone lose Jose would be the lowest contributor of donations. The removal of this safety net in my view probably motivated the comment and speaks volumes about Hatch's character. Marlee, too, opened her leadership of the task very clearly, stating she wanted no in-fighting or back-stabbing (and indeed there was less this week), but to have ASAP working as a team. She asked LaToya (who has been wittering on about not being given significant responsibility) to harness her family connections, and to camera said she was in effect calling her bluff. And given the Jackson connection I thought it interesting that LaToya's "to camera" was all about her family being in LA so there was no time for them to send things, missing the point imo this was about calling in the widest level of donation support. JR's "hillybillies" were in Texas after all, and he had immediately pledged to get a huge amount raised. However, her Tshirt was rewarded by one of Marlee's big donors, and praised by Trump .. as I've come to expect. Her hat was always going to be the winner imo. Most of them were not overly inspired She had the wit to play to the Jackson memory, and the silver glove was brilliant. Like the first task, this was about raising money and success turned on the celebrities calling in favours. Imo Backbone better organised and executed the actual task of filling and opening their art gallery, but despite JR's massive support and heroic efforts, in the end Marlee managed to pull in an even greater level of support for her charity, and as with the first project, ASAP proved better at pulling in donations. Marlee made it clear throughout that she was focused on donations; JR imo made a better job of organising the task, managing the deadlines, and managing the team, having first harnessed his contributors. But ultimately Marlee's focus on harnessing donations won it for her, so despite the frantic last minute setting up of the gallery, her arguably lesser leadership of the team and task itself was irrelevant; she had access to the widest community of support for her charity, and put her emphasis there, where it would have most effect. When Trump asked if the leaders might agree to the losing team having their raised money for their nominated charity, JR was quick and first to agree, even though he thought he was winning. Marlee's expectation that despite Jose's leaving, someone should be fired from Backbone was fair .. Two effective leaders whose style and personalities I liked. As far as what could become the elephant in the room .. the incident itself has been amply discussed here, Meat has explained it was a last straw event, and doubtless it will be the blog headline the producers wanted and aimed for. I agree with Carole that Trump gave it a rather excessive laundering and tended to speak over Meat. However, I would hope viewers of the series will have been, like me, very impressed by Meat's honesty, decency, openness and heartfelt taking of responsibility and apology in the aftermath; these are qualities which to me are the more important hallmarks of his character, and should also feature in reviews/blogs. In the best possible way, he's an even bigger man in my eyes. It's done and gone. JR managed the situation perfectly, and the team showed their collective closeness and team-spirit. Meat re-grouped, refocused and made his usual energetic and comitted contribution. I loved his "Butterflies In The Park" Now we can continue to enjoy watching that focus, drive and determination, and significant contribution to the objectives and motivation of the team he's working with. Caryl

05 Apr 2011, 00:13	#10
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Post moved to thread already started

05 Apr 2011, 02:26	#11
farmertom Rookie Join Date: 12.03.2010 Posts: 16	Just watched it online! To be honest Meat didnt come out as too bad!!! I would have done what he did a LONG time ago with Gary he would drive me absolutely crackers! By the looks of next weeks trailer, the rest of the team is doing what Meat did this week! It was a good episode with some incredible amounts of money been raised

05 Apr 2011, 02:54	#12
LisaT Super Loafer Join Date: 10.02.2006 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 662	Just watched the show. I found it a little uncomfortable to watch but, at the end of the day, my respect for Meat has just grown stronger. Yes, he made a mistake; but the way that he sincerely apologised to Gary was, I think, very admirable.

05 Apr 2011, 16:32	#13
kkzag Senior Loafer Join Date: 10.05.2010 Location: Spring Hill, Florida Posts: 197	Excellent summary Caryl! The straw that broke the camels..... The bread crumb that broke the meat's back (bone)..LOL! And I know Meat said it wasn't about art supplies...but rewind. Meat had the paint in his cart...Gary had next to nothing in his "basket"... just sayin. Kar