GARY BUSEY TRIES TO FIGHT MEAT THIS MARCH ON CELEBERITY APPRENTICE - Page 3

BostonAngel · 04 Feb 2011, 02:57

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Originally Posted by carole

Not fair, we don't get that show here!!!!!

Carole

Hopefully someone can be nice enough to tape it and send it to you. I don't have a DVR so I can't tape it and send it to you. All I have is an old-fashioned VCR.

nikox1 · 04 Feb 2011, 02:59

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Originally Posted by suzieq

I thought Meat cleared up the reason "why" he did "this" show. How can you believe one thing he says to a "T" then not believe him the next? And I'm not talking about the Bat 3 stuff at all. Clearly he's not yanking anyone's chains about this. He did well and we'll find out how well beginning in March. Glass half full.

I think whatever money he has earned for his charity will be well received, well used and help a LOT of children.

and you believe him? you believe the same man that said Bat 3 was a great album?

Sarge · 04 Feb 2011, 03:07

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Originally Posted by stretch37

its one of the most popular tv shows right now, how can you see it as nothing but a good thing?

I'm not obligated to like it just because other people like it.

Elijah's way · 04 Feb 2011, 03:13

I can't wait!!!

Sarge · 04 Feb 2011, 03:30

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Originally Posted by nikox1

it really does amaze me just how deep people look into every little thing Meat does or hang onto every word he says? [...] its not a concept album

,, why not? because i know more about the album, than the artist that recorded it!!!

Re-read these sentences. Do you notice something?

nikox1 · 04 Feb 2011, 03:38

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Re-read these sentences. Do you notice something?

i love HCTB

suzieq · 04 Feb 2011, 03:51

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Originally Posted by nikox1

and you believe him? you believe the same man that said Bat 3 was a great album?

I believe Meat is open minded, ever learning, and entitled to change his opinion.

BostonAngel · 04 Feb 2011, 06:04

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Originally Posted by suzieq

I believe Meat is open minded, ever learning, and entitled to change his opinion.

I second that suzie - Couldn't have said it better myself.

CarylB · 04 Feb 2011, 11:31

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Originally Posted by suzieq

I believe Meat is open minded, ever learning, and entitled to change his opinion.

Indeed .. and entitled, after he's fulfilled his obligations, to admit the whole process of delivering a piece of work was an unmitigatingly bad experience for him. Most of us can look back with regret or disappointment on things we've had to follow through because we've committed to them; not all of us disclose that, nor have it brought up repeatedly to cast doubt on what we move on to do in the future.

I don't believe we'll ever see Meat swallowing down wriggling grubs in the jungle! .. but I can see the appeal of testing himself on the Apprentice whilst at the same time earning for a charity he has such respect for. Might it have some general positive PR spin-off? Who knows? Meat thinks little of any significance, that these shows are quickly forgotten, and has said this was not his motivation for doing it.

I think his integrity stands up well to the intense scrutiny some put it under. My view is that those lucky enough to be able to watch the programme will see him do very well on it.

Caryl

Sarge · 04 Feb 2011, 18:39

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Indeed .. and entitled, after he's fulfilled his obligations, to admit the whole process of delivering a piece of work was an unmitigatingly bad experience for him.

That's okay but he should not attack his fans for having trusted him, looking forward to the album and spending their hard-earned money on it a few years after he extensively promoted it as something great. People who didn't know the background were insulted because they did not understand why Meat slated Bat III in interviews and dared to say that they like the album. Changing one's opinion is fine but having a go at people (fans!) who are not responsible for any bad experiences the making of the album caused him is highly unfair.

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Originally Posted by CarylB

I think his integrity stands up well to the intense scrutiny some put it under.

After seeing him go off in the trailer I'm afraid he will appear like certain other participants. I'm still hoping that it was not serious, a misleading edit or that he was just acting the tantrum for some reason but recalling previous shows, I tend to doubt that.

Okay, maybe it's "normal" these days that people, even "celebrities" behave that way in public, maybe that's what is considered good entertainment.

I have to admit that I like to listen to what Trump says - but some of the candidates...

Maybe I'm old-fashioned but I'm not keen on witnessing Meat fighting with Gary Busey or someone else on TV. I watched a movie with Busey today and I kind of like him (he makes good villains

) and I hope he didn't make a fool of himself on that show.

Some people will probably think that Meat angrily yelling at someone is somehow "cool" but I want to admire artists for their talents, I don't need to be "entertained" by that kind of behavior.

**allrevvedup** · 04 Feb 2011, 19:00

The one thing that has come from the brief trailers I have seen for this is that Busey doesn't even sound like the man who played some great villains in different films.

He just sounds like a man that the 'rock n roll lifestyle' (apart from playing Buddy Holly I don't think he's performed musically in anything, though I'm sure I'll be corrected) has caught up on, which is sad.

CarylB · 04 Feb 2011, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Sarge

That's okay but he should not attack his fans for having trusted him, looking forward to the album and spending their hard-earned money on it a few years after he extensively promoted it as something great. People who didn't know the background were insulted ...

He attacked his fans? I didn't see that. He's said here he hates the album, and pretty soon explained why. This site represents relatively few of his fans surely in the greater scheme of things, and I saw no attacks on fans in the press or in interviews.

I loved and still love the album (and there were plenty here who didn't .. so I can't see they would have been insulted, apart from him releasing it!). I understand why Meat feels the way he does, and that doesn't insult me. If someone looks forward to the album, buys it and likes it, why should that change?

If anyone read an interview where Meat "slated" the album (and I think in any I saw he explained why) I see no reason for them to interpret that as an attack, nor for them to change their mind about what they like to listen to, nor for them to feel they wouldn't "dare" to say to a friend that they like it.

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After seeing him go off in the trailer I'm afraid he will appear like certain other participants. I'm still hoping that it was not serious, a misleading edit or that he was just acting the tantrum for some reason but recalling previous shows, I tend to doubt that.

Well what we've seen IS a brief edit. I'd prefer to watch the show before I pass judgement. I've also seen edits which show Meat working and joking with people coming into a pizza parlour, which could be more indicative of his contribution.

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Maybe I'm old-fashioned but I'm not keen on witnessing Meat fighting with Gary Busey or someone else on TV.

I've just seen him yelling at Busey not to get in his face .. hardly "fighting". He used his "Meat Loaf" character and that's probably why that edit was chosen. From what Meat has said I have the impression he worked hard and competed whilst having fun, learned a lot, enjoyed doing it, and was pretty successful.

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Some people will probably think that Meat angrily yelling at someone is somehow "cool" ....

I don't .. but I do accept it as an very short edit chosen by those promoting the programme and not necessarily indicative of Meat's showing as a whole. So far I've seen more affability than anger from him in edits made public. This particular one may make a lot more sense when seen in context. Did he lose his cool, or did he simply give Busey an effective and deserved warning not to behave like a jackass? It will become clear when the episode airs.

Caryl

Sarge · 04 Feb 2011, 20:41

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Originally Posted by CarylB

He attacked his fans? I didn't see that.

He did. He called people names on here (not single people but an entire group of fans) because of the Bat III issue. (That was before he explained why he dislikes the album.) It was one of the reasons why I left this forum for a while and seriously considered putting my Meat Loaf collection on eBay.

**Monstro** · 04 Feb 2011, 21:19

Ok, can we remember the topic on the thread now please.

CarylB · 04 Feb 2011, 21:45

And back on topic .. I won't be able to watch Celebrity Apprentice .. so I hope those who can will give us some good reviews each episode, because I sense our guy did good

Caryl

suzieq · 04 Feb 2011, 23:26

Well if anything, the clip got everyone talking (one way or the other) and I'm sure it has Celebrity Apprentice enthusiasts excited for this season as well.

Caryl, I have you verbally covered and I can imagine that the episodes may be uploaded on youtube by the time I get it all typed out. :)

meatfanforlife · 04 Feb 2011, 23:53

Wow. Imo y'all need to chill out. He's one man. He's not perfect and not a god. If you don't want to watch it don't. If you do, more power to you. Meat did the show and its over now. At the end of the day, its his choice, not yours. Maybe it opened the doors for a role meat really wanted, or allowed him to make this new album he's working on. God....sometimes I wonder....

Sarge · 05 Feb 2011, 00:12

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Originally Posted by meatfanforlife

At the end of the day, its his choice, not yours.

No one is going to say what he should or what he should not do. But if he does something, e.g. appearing on a TV show, you have the right to have an opinion about it.

Vickip · 05 Feb 2011, 00:36

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Originally Posted by suzieq

Well if anything, the clip got everyone talking (one way or the other) and I'm sure it has Celebrity Apprentice enthusiasts excited for this season as well.

Exactly

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Caryl, I have you verbally covered and I can imagine that the episodes may be uploaded on youtube by the time I get it all typed out. :)

People will be able to watch them online at NBC.com, but I don't know if that's available in the UK

Other than that, NBC has an official channel on YouTube, so hopefully the episodes on there as well.

nikox1 · 05 Feb 2011, 05:47

looks like it will be fun, not a huge fan of them type shows. but i wont lose sleep about Meat being on it? hes choice at the end of the day

Rage Against · 05 Feb 2011, 17:40

I like the show, so I'll watch. And Meat Loaf yelling doesn't bother me. If someone makes me mad enough, I will yell. It doesn't happen often, but it has happened. If you don't like it, don't watch. If you don't like anything going on with Meat Loaf, well, there is an opening on the Justin Bieber fan site.

youngJB · 05 Feb 2011, 18:21

Are we forgetting that Meat Loaf is a VERY VERY emotional person? He cares deeply about what he does, so if Gary provoked him (as I'm SURE he did), Meat's gonna get animated. That's not weakness at all. We don't know the context, but we know Busey is insane and Meat is very emotionally involved, so add two and two.

I personally am looking forward to this show, and it will no doubt wake up some Meat fans that this man hasn't mellowed AT ALL. That's a good thing.

Sarge · 05 Feb 2011, 18:41

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Originally Posted by youngJB

but we know Busey is insane and Meat is very emotionally involved, so add two and two.

I assume that's one of the characteristics of reality TV. It features people whose personalities will inevitably clash in certain circumstances so that the audience and the media have something to talk about. I neither think that it's fair nor am I excited about it. Well, that's contemporary "entertainment", I guess.

Vickip · 05 Feb 2011, 19:12

Seeing Meat yelling doesn't bother me in the least, and I certainly don't see it as a sign of weakness. If anything, the clip makes me even more curious to watch the show and see what Gary Busey said (or did) to get him so upset. To each their own I guess

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Originally Posted by Rage Against

If you don't like it, don't watch.

Exactly ... it's as simple as that

Dave · 05 Feb 2011, 21:03

Last night, while out and about clubbing around town, I had a few different people let me know they planned on watching Celeb Apprentice because they wanted to see Meat Loaf on the show - most of them did not watch before. Getting out of the superfan cloud, people thought it was exciting to actually see him in a commercial and going to be on a show they could watch.

04 Feb 2011, 21:45	#65
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	And back on topic .. I won't be able to watch Celebrity Apprentice .. so I hope those who can will give us some good reviews each episode, because I sense our guy did good Caryl Last edited by Monstro; 04 Feb 2011 at 21:47. Reason: off topic

04 Feb 2011, 03:13	#54
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	I can't wait!!!

04 Feb 2011, 19:00	#61
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,356	The one thing that has come from the brief trailers I have seen for this is that Busey doesn't even sound like the man who played some great villains in different films. He just sounds like a man that the 'rock n roll lifestyle' (apart from playing Buddy Holly I don't think he's performed musically in anything, though I'm sure I'll be corrected) has caught up on, which is sad.

04 Feb 2011, 21:19	#64
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Ok, can we remember the topic on the thread now please.

04 Feb 2011, 23:26	#66
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	Well if anything, the clip got everyone talking (one way or the other) and I'm sure it has Celebrity Apprentice enthusiasts excited for this season as well. Caryl, I have you verbally covered and I can imagine that the episodes may be uploaded on youtube by the time I get it all typed out. :)

04 Feb 2011, 23:53	#67
meatfanforlife Banned Join Date: 12.09.2010 Posts: 327	Wow. Imo y'all need to chill out. He's one man. He's not perfect and not a god. If you don't want to watch it don't. If you do, more power to you. Meat did the show and its over now. At the end of the day, its his choice, not yours. Maybe it opened the doors for a role meat really wanted, or allowed him to make this new album he's working on. God....sometimes I wonder....

05 Feb 2011, 05:47	#70
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	looks like it will be fun, not a huge fan of them type shows. but i wont lose sleep about Meat being on it? hes choice at the end of the day

05 Feb 2011, 17:40	#71
Rage Against Guest Join Date: 31.10.2009 Location: The Dark Side Posts: 351	I like the show, so I'll watch. And Meat Loaf yelling doesn't bother me. If someone makes me mad enough, I will yell. It doesn't happen often, but it has happened. If you don't like it, don't watch. If you don't like anything going on with Meat Loaf, well, there is an opening on the Justin Bieber fan site.

05 Feb 2011, 18:21	#72
youngJB Senior Loafer Join Date: 05.12.2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 116	Are we forgetting that Meat Loaf is a VERY VERY emotional person? He cares deeply about what he does, so if Gary provoked him (as I'm SURE he did), Meat's gonna get animated. That's not weakness at all. We don't know the context, but we know Busey is insane and Meat is very emotionally involved, so add two and two. I personally am looking forward to this show, and it will no doubt wake up some Meat fans that this man hasn't mellowed AT ALL. That's a good thing.

05 Feb 2011, 21:03	#75
Dave Mega Loafer Join Date: 12.04.2002 Location: Southern Ohio - United States of America Posts: 2,564	Last night, while out and about clubbing around town, I had a few different people let me know they planned on watching Celeb Apprentice because they wanted to see Meat Loaf on the show - most of them did not watch before. Getting out of the superfan cloud, people thought it was exciting to actually see him in a commercial and going to be on a show they could watch.