Bat Out Of Hell - Page 2

**allrevvedup** · 03 Jan 2011, 13:36

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

But this clip has made me rethink my first statement. i swear to god hes miming

No i don't think he's miming at all but of all the vids and audio from around that time, it's the closest to the original vocal that I've heard

Wario · 03 Jan 2011, 13:58

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Originally Posted by allrevvedup

No i don't think he's miming at all but of all the vids and audio from around that time, it's the closest to the original vocal that I've heard

Well yeah I know hes not miming, was making a point he does sound very close as hell.

Paul Richardson · 04 Jan 2011, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Holy One

BAT OUT OF HELL IS STILL ~~~~ING TREMENDOUS.

So put the CD in, turn the volume up and enjoy the greatest album of all time.

ABSO...~~~ING...LUTELY

This, and Dead Ringer are the only Meat Loaf albums I still listen to in their entirity. Bat 1 because it is simply the Greatest Album Of All Time, Dead Ringer because apart from the first and last, the songs are almost as good.

bluefox4000 · 04 Jan 2011, 16:29

Hey guys I'm new here. Been a Meat fan since 93.

Anyway, Bat Out Hell. I Love the Album....but it's not not my Favorite. However it does contain Crying Out Loud. Which my favorite song from anyone ever. So major point's for that. To be honest this is one of thr albums I listen to least. Still great though.

Mick

Sarge · 07 Jan 2011, 01:25

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

And I like it but not as much anymore given the new info on how it was produced.

So something Meat Loaf said is more important to you than the impression the music originally made on you? A lot of "tricks" are used when recording an album, it is always artificial to a certain extent.

I don't care that much about what Meat says about his albums anymore. If I did, I would probably HATE HCTB and kick myself for having been stupid enough to buy Bat III. The music itself is more important to me than what Meat says about it. I either like or dislike a song / record based on my personal preferences, regardless of his statements.

Wario · 07 Jan 2011, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Sarge

So something Meat Loaf said is more important to you than the impression the music originally made on you? A lot of "tricks" are used when recording an album, it is always artificial to a certain extent.

Well Theirs a difference between speeding up a vocal and enhancing it.

I cant listen to it anymore without thinking "this voice is sped up"

Sarge · 07 Jan 2011, 02:07

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Well Theirs a difference between speeding up a vocal and enhancing it.

What exactly is the difference? Both are alterations to the "natural" sound.

stretch37 · 07 Jan 2011, 02:09

I rarely listen to the original Bat. I appreciate it for what it is, but it is by far my favorite vocal.

Having said that, i LOVE all of the songs on the original Bat provided they are sang by Meat's more mature voice. You have to remember, I didn't know much about Meat until i was about 15, or 2003, so I fell in love with his CHSIB sound first and foremost.

His vocals on HCTB are awesome, and the songs are a fresh and good change.

Hoepfully the next album is a mixture of Prize Fight Lover / Song of Madness style songs....and some new powerful ballads that are NOT AT ALL like DYELS...but more like I'd lie for you or not a dry eye.

Sarge · 07 Jan 2011, 02:20

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Originally Posted by stretch37

Hoepfully the next album is a mixture of Prize Fight Lover / Song of Madness style songs....and some new powerful ballads that are NOT AT ALL like DYELS...but more like I'd lie for you or not a dry eye

I couldn't agree more. Prize Fight Lover and Song Of Madness are two of the best songs he has ever recorded while Did You Ever Love Somebody is one of the weakest

. His best ballads are to be found on the first two Bat albums; the Warren songs on WTTN gain their strength from trying to be Steinman-like, in my opinion. Unfortunately Diane Warren's further contributions to Meat Loaf albums were less impressive.

mariella · 07 Jan 2011, 02:29

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Originally Posted by stretch37

I rarely listen to the original Bat. I appreciate it for what it is, but it is by far my favorite vocal.

Funny you should say that ... as I realise we both adore the same singer...
but I can honestly say I only listened to BOOH for at least five years, be it in my car.
Collage in either Oxford or Cambridge, has proven since than that plants grow to better to BOOH than to Bohemian Rapsody

It has something to do with energy-flowing?streaming...

FWIIIW ... Even today I still think CHSIB is his own peronal piece of Magic...

Wario · 07 Jan 2011, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Sarge

What exactly is the difference? Both are alterations to the "natural" sound.

i just dont like sped up vocals.

AndrewG · 07 Jan 2011, 03:00

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Originally Posted by stretch37

Hoepfully the next album is a mixture of Prize Fight Lover / Song of Madness style songs....and some new powerful ballads that are NOT AT ALL like DYELS...but more like I'd lie for you or not a dry eye.

Hear Hear, this post deserves a medal! CHSIB!

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

i just dont like sped up vocals.

Funny you should say that, you've always come across as a chipmunks loving guy in my opinion.

Sarge · 07 Jan 2011, 03:03

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

i just dont like sped up vocals.

But obviously you liked the album before you knew they were sped up. So what's the problem? If something sounds good enough for millions of people to buy and love it, why does Meat's statement suddenly make such a big difference to you?

madagascar · 07 Jan 2011, 03:13

All that sped up thing doesn't matter to me. Only exception is 2oo3, never liked the studio version of it and after Meat's post I got to know why.

Wario · 07 Jan 2011, 03:51

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Originally Posted by Sarge

But obviously you liked the album before you knew they were sped up. So what's the problem? If something sounds good enough for millions of people to buy and love it, why does Meat's statement suddenly make such a big difference to you?

Beacuse it just does

youngJB · 07 Jan 2011, 05:20

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Originally Posted by madagascar

All that sped up thing doesn't matter to me. Only exception is 2oo3, never liked the studio version of it and after Meat's post I got to know why.

The 2oo3 buisiness confused me for a few minutes there. First I thought you were talking about the year...

But now that I know it's Two outta three...I was under the impression everyone here made shrines to Bat Out Of hell like me, and held it on a pedestal nothing and nobody else could even touch, but apparently Meat Loaf fans are literally THE toughest critics around. Even people who hate meat love "2oo3". I know my dad had it on repeat in his car for literally years. And to me, the production, recording, and whatever else went into Bat was PERFECT. Sure, there were little things only we can bicker about, but to me there is no better collection of songs on a single record that BAT.

stretch37 · 07 Jan 2011, 05:23

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Originally Posted by youngJB

but to me there is no better collection of songs on a single record that BAT.

Totally agree, the songs are epic. I never said i don't like the vocals, or that i'm critical on them. I think the vocals on Bat are amazing. But I still prefer Meat's mature voice to his younger voice...just my personal preference

madagascar · 07 Jan 2011, 15:37

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Originally Posted by youngJB

The 2oo3 buisiness confused me for a few minutes there. First I thought you were talking about the year...

But now that I know it's Two outta three...I was under the impression everyone here made shrines to Bat Out Of hell like me, and held it on a pedestal nothing and nobody else could even touch, but apparently Meat Loaf fans are literally THE toughest critics around. Even people who hate meat love "2oo3". I know my dad had it on repeat in his car for literally years. And to me, the production, recording, and whatever else went into Bat was PERFECT. Sure, there were little things only we can bicker about, but to me there is no better collection of songs on a single record that BAT.

2oo3 is one of my favourite songs when it comes to live environment, especially Bob's solo back in the 80's.

bluefox4000 · 07 Jan 2011, 17:43

I also think Two out of Three is better live. Love the guitar solo's it used to have.

Mick

**Monstro** · 07 Jan 2011, 19:42

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Originally Posted by bluefox4000

I also think Two out of Three is better live. Love the guitar solo's it used to have.

Mick

And there in is my problem, so do I.

bluefox4000 · 07 Jan 2011, 20:11

How is that a problem..just asking

Mick

**Monstro** · 07 Jan 2011, 20:23

I dislike with a passion what the piano solo did to 2oo3 on the last tour

bluefox4000 · 07 Jan 2011, 20:26

Oh I hear you. I dearly DEARLY miss those guitar solos.

Mick

AndrewG · 07 Jan 2011, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Monstro

I dislike with a passion what the piano solo did to 2oo3 on the last tour

Thought it was utterly amazing myself. Never thought I would hear SUCH a good pianist playing the songs. Don't care who's gone before, Justin IS the man in my opinion.
Also the look on Meat's face after that at Wembley is priceless in my opinion.

The originals on Bat 1 and 2 (Except for all the guitar filling in Bat and sax on Rock n Roll Dreams) hardly have solos as far as I'm concerned. If I want to hear solos I go to the shows.

duke knooby · 08 Jan 2011, 01:38

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Justin IS the man in my opinion.

i must confess, having only seen one live show from the current tour, i wasn't particularly moved by justin's solo

it didnt seem to have anything to do with the song in my opinion

he's a good player, but his playing did nothing for me

04 Jan 2011, 16:29	#29
bluefox4000 Rookie Join Date: 04.01.2011 Posts: 13	Hey guys I'm new here. Been a Meat fan since 93. Anyway, Bat Out Hell. I Love the Album....but it's not not my Favorite. However it does contain Crying Out Loud. Which my favorite song from anyone ever. So major point's for that. To be honest this is one of thr albums I listen to least. Still great though. Mick

07 Jan 2011, 02:09	#33
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,120	I rarely listen to the original Bat. I appreciate it for what it is, but it is by far my favorite vocal. Having said that, i LOVE all of the songs on the original Bat provided they are sang by Meat's more mature voice. You have to remember, I didn't know much about Meat until i was about 15, or 2003, so I fell in love with his CHSIB sound first and foremost. His vocals on HCTB are awesome, and the songs are a fresh and good change. Hoepfully the next album is a mixture of Prize Fight Lover / Song of Madness style songs....and some new powerful ballads that are NOT AT ALL like DYELS...but more like I'd lie for you or not a dry eye.

07 Jan 2011, 03:13	#39
madagascar Super Loafer Join Date: 13.12.2005 Location: Germany Posts: 380	All that sped up thing doesn't matter to me. Only exception is 2oo3, never liked the studio version of it and after Meat's post I got to know why.

07 Jan 2011, 17:43	#44
bluefox4000 Rookie Join Date: 04.01.2011 Posts: 13	I also think Two out of Three is better live. Love the guitar solo's it used to have. Mick

07 Jan 2011, 20:11	#46
bluefox4000 Rookie Join Date: 04.01.2011 Posts: 13	How is that a problem..just asking Mick

07 Jan 2011, 20:23	#47
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	I dislike with a passion what the piano solo did to 2oo3 on the last tour

07 Jan 2011, 20:26	#48
bluefox4000 Rookie Join Date: 04.01.2011 Posts: 13	Oh I hear you. I dearly DEARLY miss those guitar solos. Mick