WWE RAW 05/10/10 - Page 5

carole · 15 May 2010, 23:54

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Originally Posted by wizardofodd

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...y8-14/14433136

Thats a link that hopefully loads a video with Meats comments of the RKO aftermath

I can't watch that clip on my computer, could someone please put it on youtube so I can watch it?

Carole

LisaT · 16 May 2010, 00:12

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Originally Posted by carole

Well I thought it came across as Meat having fun and going along with it and acting the part, which he does so well.

Carole

That's how I see it too - Meat just being a great sport as usual!

Vickip · 16 May 2010, 00:45

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Originally Posted by carole

I can't watch that clip on my computer, could someone please put it on youtube so I can watch it?

Carole

I didn't post it on YouTube, but you can download it here Carole :

Video

Sarge · 16 May 2010, 04:21

Some people seem to think that any kind of appearance = good promo... If it was that easy, marketing wouldn't be such a difficult job. The question is: Did the average RAW viewer recognize Meat Loaf as a rock singer who has a pretty good album out or just as someone playing a silly part in a wrestling show? What the audience got to hear from the album was Meat screaming a few words into the microphone. He could have as well played a cooler, less annoying character - I believe that could have been better promo than him gabbling rather incoherently about the CD.

suzieq · 16 May 2010, 04:30

The average RAW viewer took this as a recognizable celebrity who was about to get RKO'd NO MATTER what the guy said. Meat was there to get an insert in about the album and get RKO'd. If Meat would have sang Randy's entrance music he has now, he would have still gotten RKO'd. Randy is on the verge of becoming a babyface, and the fans want to see anything that moves get RKO'd. It doesn't matter. That's what the average RAW viewer is going to see.

It was a FUN gig. When we are entrapped in all seriousness about wanting HCTB to do well, this was a FUN stunt.

Having said that, if you watched the whole show through, the announcers Michael Cole and the King promo'd the album VERY tastefully. Giving Meat his image back. And believe me the fans of the WWE listen to what the announcers say just as if there is action in the ring. There were two plugs that were stellar.

In terms, Meat was playing the villain here. So what does an RKO mean....the boys in the back = instant respect.....fans = instant respect. You take a bump, you get the cred.

Suzieq

Rage Against · 16 May 2010, 04:35

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Some people seem to think that any kind of appearance = good promo... If it was that easy, marketing wouldn't be such a difficult job. The question is: Did the average RAW viewer recognize Meat Loaf as a rock singer who has a pretty good album out or just as someone playing a silly part in a wrestling show? What the audience got to hear from the album was Meat screaming a few words into the microphone. He could have as well played a cooler, less annoying character - I believe that could have been better promo than him gabbling rather incoherently about the CD.

I'll agree that WWE could have created a better spot for Meat Loaf, but he did his best with what he had to work with. I'm sure I was not the only person watching RAW that night who was talking about Meat Loaf's appearance the next day. Somewhere out there someone saw RAW and said, wait Meat Loaf has a new album out? Just getting his name out there and getting talked about is a positive. Is the Rolling Stone advertisement better than the RAW appearance? I think not. Meat's appearance on RAW has the same power with the wrestling audience as a nod from Oprah has with her audience.

Wario · 16 May 2010, 04:37

when i read the title of this thread I got excited and thought he sang RAW on WWE

suzieq · 16 May 2010, 04:39

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

when i read the title of this thread I got excited and thought he sang RAW on WWE

With due respect, don't judge a thread by it's title. Title said WWE Raw 05/10/10 ~ not sure how you interpreted the singing part into it....and it's under Loaf!Camera!Action! ~ tells me TV appearance.

Wario · 16 May 2010, 04:42

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Originally Posted by suzieq

With due respect, don't judge a thread by it's title. Title said WWE Raw 05/10/10 ~ not sure how you interpreted the singing part into it....and it's under Loaf!Camera!Action! ~ tells me TV appearance.

I was joking .... if you notice i replied in this thread before

and RAW stood for Readem and Weep

suzieq · 16 May 2010, 04:43

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

I was joking .... if you notice i replied in this thread before

My bad. Sorry.

Sarge · 16 May 2010, 04:54

Let's assume I wasn't a fan. Would that skit have made me buy the album? NO! But I think I've become a Randy Orton fan.

carole · 16 May 2010, 04:57

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Originally Posted by Vickip

I didn't post it on YouTube, but you can download it here Carole :

Video

Thanks Vicki, it was great to finally Meat's behind the scene comments.

Carole

Rage Against · 16 May 2010, 05:00

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Let's assume I wasn't a fan. Would that skit have made me buy the album? NO! But I think I've become a Randy Orton fan.

It may have caused you to take a look at Meat's album or pick it up if you saw it in the store. Maybe even look for it if you happen to be in the record store. And if you're a Randy Orton fan, you may see his interaction with Meat as a nod for the album. Most wrestling fans know it's all scripted and understand why the guests are there, to promote something. It has to be somewhat effective or people wouldn't want to do it.

And lastly...are you a fan?

suzieq · 16 May 2010, 05:01

Sarge · 16 May 2010, 05:08

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Originally Posted by Rage Against

It may have caused you to take a look at Meat's album or pick it up if you saw it in the store.

NO!

Rage Against · 16 May 2010, 05:11

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Originally Posted by Sarge

NO!

That's what I thought...

Sarge · 16 May 2010, 05:16

Well, if I had seen the rocker Meat Loaf instead of some bloke getting on Orton's nerves...

P.S.: Meat performed songs at boxing matches in Germany in the past. Yes, he appeared as a singer and he didn't have to get himself knocked down then.

Pudding · 16 May 2010, 06:01

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Originally Posted by Rage Against

I'll agree that WWE could have created a better spot for Meat Loaf, but he did his best with what he had to work with.

Meat did do his best with what he was offered but what he was offered wasn't very good in my opinion. There's nothing Sarge has said that I disagree with.

JennaG · 16 May 2010, 15:27

I'm not a wrestling fan, in fact I can't stand it so I only watched the bit with Meat. To be honest I had no idea what RKO meant so I was a bit surprised to see Meat get thrown.

I know some people disapproved of Meat doing it but if he enjoyed doing it, then why shouldn't he? Yes there was the risk of him getting hurt but I doubt they'd have allowed him to do it if he hadn't had sufficient practice in how to fall correctly and everything.

The way I look at it, it's getting more promotion for the album and the more people that are aware of it, the better chance it has of selling.

CarylB · 16 May 2010, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

I'm not a wrestling fan, in fact I can't stand it so I only watched the bit with Meat. To be honest I had no idea what RKO meant so I was a bit surprised to see Meat get thrown.

The way I look at it, it's getting more promotion for the album and the more people that are aware of it, the better chance it has of selling.

As an entertainment it doesn't really float my boat either

.. but I expected Meat would get thrown

.. and from what he said afterwards, it was, as one might expect, something he'd revel in, and would have approached with his trademark professionalism; and he was probably more likely to get hurt tripping on a stair at home, like most of us

As you say .. he enoyed it and had fun. He also reached an audience of millions, not only with his actual appearance, but through the additional commentaries during the programme.

Like you, for me there's no "coulda" no "shoulda" .. Just why not? He chooses, and imo knows a bit more about what he's doing than the peanut gallery

Caryl

Evil One · 16 May 2010, 16:06

It wasn't an ideal bit of promo but with the choice between that or nothing, it's better than nothing.

Rage Against · 16 May 2010, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Well, if I had seen the rocker Meat Loaf instead of some bloke getting on Orton's nerves...

P.S.: Meat performed songs at boxing matches in Germany in the past. Yes, he appeared as a singer and he didn't have to get himself knocked down then.

Boxing is not scripted...wrestling is. Not many guests come onto a wrestling show and don't get involved in a storyline. I would not expect Meat to go to a UFC event and jump in the ring with Anderson Silva.

Rage Against · 16 May 2010, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

I'm not a wrestling fan, in fact I can't stand it so I only watched the bit with Meat. To be honest I had no idea what RKO meant so I was a bit surprised to see Meat get thrown.

I know some people disapproved of Meat doing it but if he enjoyed doing it, then why shouldn't he? Yes there was the risk of him getting hurt but I doubt they'd have allowed him to do it if he hadn't had sufficient practice in how to fall correctly and everything.

The way I look at it, it's getting more promotion for the album and the more people that are aware of it, the better chance it has of selling.

I couldn't agree more.

TheDoode · 16 May 2010, 16:28

I'm actually with Sarge on this one; it would be cool to see Meat full of conviction and coolness in the promo spots, and if the situation isn't right for a live performance, why not run a HCTB TV spot at the end/halfway through/whatever - some great rockin' clips over the album artwork (like the end of Wario's vid) - in the same way you'd cut to a trailer or scene from a movie if you were interviewing an actor?

My 2 cents.

Doode.

P.S. Or... if you want to go the comedy route, get Jack Black to do several promo spots on TV shows with Meat. At least that way people who aren't familiar with the humour and just see Meat as a musician will get it!

Sarge · 16 May 2010, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Rage Against

Boxing is not scripted...wrestling is.

You don't have to tell me what wrestling is all about. It would have been even worse if it wasn't scripted. When appearing at the boxing matches Meat got applause - and he performed with Patti.

At RAW he just served as another Orton victim.

16 May 2010, 04:21	#104
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Some people seem to think that any kind of appearance = good promo... If it was that easy, marketing wouldn't be such a difficult job. The question is: Did the average RAW viewer recognize Meat Loaf as a rock singer who has a pretty good album out or just as someone playing a silly part in a wrestling show? What the audience got to hear from the album was Meat screaming a few words into the microphone. He could have as well played a cooler, less annoying character - I believe that could have been better promo than him gabbling rather incoherently about the CD. Last edited by Sarge; 16 May 2010 at 04:27. Reason: spelling

16 May 2010, 04:37	#107
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	when i read the title of this thread I got excited and thought he sang RAW on WWE - i just wanted to reference RAW cause I could. Last edited by Wario; 16 May 2010 at 04:43.

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Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Well, if I had seen the rocker Meat Loaf instead of some bloke getting on Orton's nerves... P.S.: Meat performed songs at boxing matches in Germany in the past. Yes, he appeared as a singer and he didn't have to get himself knocked down then. Last edited by Sarge; 16 May 2010 at 05:29.

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suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	The average RAW viewer took this as a recognizable celebrity who was about to get RKO'd NO MATTER what the guy said. Meat was there to get an insert in about the album and get RKO'd. If Meat would have sang Randy's entrance music he has now, he would have still gotten RKO'd. Randy is on the verge of becoming a babyface, and the fans want to see anything that moves get RKO'd. It doesn't matter. That's what the average RAW viewer is going to see. It was a FUN gig. When we are entrapped in all seriousness about wanting HCTB to do well, this was a FUN stunt. Having said that, if you watched the whole show through, the announcers Michael Cole and the King promo'd the album VERY tastefully. Giving Meat his image back. And believe me the fans of the WWE listen to what the announcers say just as if there is action in the ring. There were two plugs that were stellar. In terms, Meat was playing the villain here. So what does an RKO mean....the boys in the back = instant respect.....fans = instant respect. You take a bump, you get the cred. Suzieq

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Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Let's assume I wasn't a fan. Would that skit have made me buy the album? NO! But I think I've become a Randy Orton fan.

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suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319

16 May 2010, 15:27	#119
JennaG Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.02.2010 Location: Posts: 1,934	I'm not a wrestling fan, in fact I can't stand it so I only watched the bit with Meat. To be honest I had no idea what RKO meant so I was a bit surprised to see Meat get thrown. I know some people disapproved of Meat doing it but if he enjoyed doing it, then why shouldn't he? Yes there was the risk of him getting hurt but I doubt they'd have allowed him to do it if he hadn't had sufficient practice in how to fall correctly and everything. The way I look at it, it's getting more promotion for the album and the more people that are aware of it, the better chance it has of selling.

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Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,194	It wasn't an ideal bit of promo but with the choice between that or nothing, it's better than nothing.

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TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	I'm actually with Sarge on this one; it would be cool to see Meat full of conviction and coolness in the promo spots, and if the situation isn't right for a live performance, why not run a HCTB TV spot at the end/halfway through/whatever - some great rockin' clips over the album artwork (like the end of Wario's vid) - in the same way you'd cut to a trailer or scene from a movie if you were interviewing an actor? My 2 cents. Doode. P.S. Or... if you want to go the comedy route, get Jack Black to do several promo spots on TV shows with Meat. At least that way people who aren't familiar with the humour and just see Meat as a musician will get it!