3 Bats DVD to be aired on radio - Page 2

Kai-H. · 10 Sep 2007, 22:16

Oh my god ... it's really horrible how Meat's voice lost his power. For me it's a very sad moment to realize that fact.

Evil One · 10 Sep 2007, 22:23

I hope the video is something special because sad to say that the audio isn't.

duke knooby · 10 Sep 2007, 22:24

why not, just wait for the dvd, have a listen, maybe several times (in 5.1 surround perhaps) and then, make an informed opinion on the performance.. just a thought

Evil One · 10 Sep 2007, 23:17

I'm making an informed opinion on the audio that was aired. What's wrong with that?

duke knooby · 10 Sep 2007, 23:21

absolutely nothing, thats your informed opinion on what you heard broadcast, which may sound quite different to what the dvd will sound like, or indeed sound exactly the same. we wont know untill we hear the dvd. all im saying is, this isn't the best way to judge the dvd, when we have yet to hear it. (bit like trying to judge a (good) cd on a shitty cheap yellow pack cd player, its not necesarily a good representation of the cd/dvd is kinda what i'm trying to say)

Benny · 10 Sep 2007, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Kai-H.

Oh my god ... it's really horrible how Meat's voice lost his power

What!!!!!

I disagree!

Paul191 · 11 Sep 2007, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by knooby

this isn't the best way to judge the dvd, when we have yet to hear it. (bit like trying to judge a (good) cd on a shitty cheap yellow pack cd player, its not necesarily a good representation of the cd/dvd is kinda what i'm trying to say)

Sorry but, how is saying 'I hope the video is better because sad to say the audio isn't much' "Judging" the DVD......? The only thing being judged there is the quality of the audio. If you actually read what he said!! I haven't heard the audio yet but it just struck me as a little 'hillbilly' to write what you just wrote.

**allrevvedup** · 11 Sep 2007, 12:11

I agree that the audio isn't a full reflection of the dv, but with that said this show was broadcast to a reasonably big audience in germany and was not just some bootleg that has come up on the internet.

If it was meant to provide a platform for the European tour then I'm not sure it did the job, but then i'm only coming to this conclusion having only heard Blind As a Bat.

I liked the MSO dvd and didn't realise that parts of it had been overdubbed, but i guess it's not a surprise. It seems to me they could've done the same thing for this dvd but hey maybe they will.

What i could tell in Blind as a bat was that parts of Meat's original vocal,during the chorus, were in the background. Again it's something that happens a lot, listen to any live version of Living on a Prayer in more recent times and you will the same thing with Jon Bon Jovi.

razorball2002 · 11 Sep 2007, 13:02

i just cannot understand people who want meats voice overdubbed on LIVE dvds. People, lemme tell ya something: if you want that, just watch the original videos of the songs, dont watch a damn live dvd! Yes Meat like most of the artists when you see them live sometimes misses a note or two, and due to extensive touring his voice has changed, but that guy still has breath to let those words out and boy can he put on a a great show (but never as good as the one I saw in 1994, in my opinion).
So, people, respect the man, and respect the fact that Meat wanted an honest dvd with no overdubbs, what's wrong with you people! Just listen to the cds if you want clean sound with a pavarotti voice! Live is live people. And Meat, if you are reading this, you still kick ass and thanx a LOT for being HONEST with that dvd.

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2007, 13:41

I think Meat sounds pretty good on this live show except for IACBTMN. He can't properly control his voice at the start and at the end of the song, while the middle is not bad. Other than that there is hardly anything to fault in my opinion. Bat stood out quite a bit (band sounds fantastic with super drumming at the start). Probably the best live version I've heard since MSO.
This I think came quite close to how things sounded at RAH, though I still would have preferred a release from that show. Overall I think the production sounds great and can't see why people would think Meat has lost his voice based on this. If you compare this to the Ken Bruce show from last year I think this is a gazillion times better.

evil nickname · 11 Sep 2007, 13:59

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

can't see why people would think Meat has lost his voice based on this.

Based on this show, recorded early on in the tour, I can't either. Based on the two shows I saw in June, I can.

ChrisBelfast · 11 Sep 2007, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I think Meat sounds pretty good on this live show except for IACBTMN. He can't properly control his voice at the start and at the end of the song, while the middle is not bad. Other than that there is hardly anything to fault in my opinion. Bat stood out quite a bit (band sounds fantastic with super drumming at the start). Probably the best live version I've heard since MSO.
This I think came quite close to how things sounded at RAH, though I still would have preferred a release from that show. Overall I think the production sounds great and can't see why people would think Meat has lost his voice based on this. If you compare this to the Ken Bruce show from last year I think this is a gazillion times better.

I think this summons it up pretty well, and yes especially compared to Ken Bruce. I think he sounds a lot better in this release than a lot of the MSO, especially R&R Dreams, which I thought was woeful on MSO, this one is performed far better. Anything for Love was far better too than MSO and the World Tour 2003 Bonus CD that came with CHSIB.

I think this is as good a live recording we'll get from Meat now without overdubbing. It's certainly far better than the 2003 official tour recordings, especially the production too, think it was Kasim that produced them, everything about them was bad i thought. Looking forward to this release.

**RadioMaster** · 11 Sep 2007, 14:22

a funny side note:
The presenter talked a lot about Meat being in Cologne last june, and as being so successful, returning to our state, to Dortmund in October, BUT she didnt say one word about the DVD. lol

AndrewG · 11 Sep 2007, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

Based on this show, recorded early on in the tour, I can't either. Based on the two shows I saw in June, I can.

Some of the stuff I heard of Meat from June was the worst singing I've ever heard him do

I hope he will sound like he did on this recording in October / November as I am thinking the European touring days are drawing to close.

24K · 11 Sep 2007, 20:46

Well i can honestly say that i would not base my opinion on an audio radio version of the upcoming DVD.(i have heard the radio version)
I will wait to see the DVD,then decide what its like,see being the operative word for me.

As for seeing Meat, in May every show for me was awesome,and i did not see much wrong with Meats performance,he missed a few notes,so what.

Ma.Ra · 12 Sep 2007, 23:45

I have listened to anything and rock'n' roll dreams yet and it isnt that bad!
IMHO it isn't that bad how some saying here. I have already listen to worse performances of the big man. I have no problems with small overdubbing, but the german download release of IACBTM was too much overdubbed.
I prefer the MSO much more than the storytellers dvd and I never had the feeling that the MSO was overdubbed

meatrocks1 · 13 Sep 2007, 02:31

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO

PanicLord · 17 Sep 2007, 20:10

I thought they were all excellent recordings, except maybe Blind As A Bat where you could hardly hear what was being sung at times - it was loud, but sounded slurred. That may be just because it was streamed and mp3d though, so best to wait to see what the final release is like.

I guess the thing is, a smallish band will never be quite the same as the MSO, but Meat sounds terrific, so hopefully it will be one helluva show!

**RadioMaster** · 15 Oct 2007, 12:18

you can experience at least the audio stream of the show, which will be aired on german radio tonight.
The radio station ndr 2 is broadcasting the full setlist between 9 and 11pm german time (8 and 10pm UK time).
You can listen to the live stream here

meatloaf-unofficial · 15 Oct 2007, 12:22

Not the full Setlist..

Its doing:

The song list 21 to 22
All Revved Up All Revved Up
Paradise By The Dashboard Light Paradise By the Dashboard Light
You Took The Words Right Outta My Mouth You Took the Words Right Outta My Mouth
Out Of The Frying Pan (And Into The Fire) Out Of The Frying Pan (And Into The Fire)
I’d Do Anything For Love I'd Do Anything For Love
Objects In The Rear View Mirror Objects in the Rear View Mirror
The song list 22 to 23
Rock’n Roll Dreams / Seize The Night
Blind As A Bat
Two Out Of Three Ain’t Bad
It’s All Coming Back To Me Now
Bat Out Of Hell
Mercury Blues
Gimme Shelter

It seems to be missing; TMIL, BFG, BB,
Site: http://www.ndr2.de/pages_std_lib/0,3...EF6962,00.html

**RadioMaster** · 15 Oct 2007, 12:40

touche.....most of it then

Ma.Ra · 15 Oct 2007, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

touche.....most of it then

Not touche, touché. It's french.

meatloaf-unofficial · 15 Oct 2007, 20:34

I will be listening to it and if you like I can record it and upload to the net for you all to get a copy of... Unless someone is willing to rip the audio from the dvd and upload for us???

Let me know before the show starts

Ross

**RadioMaster** · 15 Oct 2007, 20:37

i dont think that theres any need to record this, everybody will have the dvd soon anyway

meatloaf-unofficial · 15 Oct 2007, 20:38

thats fine just a thought as there's no cd you might want a recording for cd or ipod etc...

10 Sep 2007, 23:21	#30
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,909	absolutely nothing, thats your informed opinion on what you heard broadcast, which may sound quite different to what the dvd will sound like, or indeed sound exactly the same. we wont know untill we hear the dvd. all im saying is, this isn't the best way to judge the dvd, when we have yet to hear it. (bit like trying to judge a (good) cd on a shitty cheap yellow pack cd player, its not necesarily a good representation of the cd/dvd is kinda what i'm trying to say) Last edited by duke knooby; 10 Sep 2007 at 23:30. Reason: it wanted tweaked

15 Oct 2007, 12:18	#44
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	for those who havent got the dvd yet you can experience at least the audio stream of the show, which will be aired on german radio tonight. The radio station ndr 2 is broadcasting the full setlist between 9 and 11pm german time (8 and 10pm UK time). You can listen to the live stream here

10 Sep 2007, 22:16	#26
Kai-H. Loafer Join Date: 24.04.2003 Location: Stade - Germany Posts: 88	Oh my god ... it's really horrible how Meat's voice lost his power. For me it's a very sad moment to realize that fact.

10 Sep 2007, 22:23	#27
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,194	I hope the video is something special because sad to say that the audio isn't.

10 Sep 2007, 22:24	#28
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,909	why not, just wait for the dvd, have a listen, maybe several times (in 5.1 surround perhaps) and then, make an informed opinion on the performance.. just a thought

10 Sep 2007, 23:17	#29
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,194	I'm making an informed opinion on the audio that was aired. What's wrong with that?

11 Sep 2007, 12:11	#33
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,362	I agree that the audio isn't a full reflection of the dv, but with that said this show was broadcast to a reasonably big audience in germany and was not just some bootleg that has come up on the internet. If it was meant to provide a platform for the European tour then I'm not sure it did the job, but then i'm only coming to this conclusion having only heard Blind As a Bat. I liked the MSO dvd and didn't realise that parts of it had been overdubbed, but i guess it's not a surprise. It seems to me they could've done the same thing for this dvd but hey maybe they will. What i could tell in Blind as a bat was that parts of Meat's original vocal,during the chorus, were in the background. Again it's something that happens a lot, listen to any live version of Living on a Prayer in more recent times and you will the same thing with Jon Bon Jovi.

11 Sep 2007, 13:02	#34
razorball2002 Guest Join Date: 20.03.2006 Posts: 86	i just cannot understand people who want meats voice overdubbed on LIVE dvds. People, lemme tell ya something: if you want that, just watch the original videos of the songs, dont watch a damn live dvd! Yes Meat like most of the artists when you see them live sometimes misses a note or two, and due to extensive touring his voice has changed, but that guy still has breath to let those words out and boy can he put on a a great show (but never as good as the one I saw in 1994, in my opinion). So, people, respect the man, and respect the fact that Meat wanted an honest dvd with no overdubbs, what's wrong with you people! Just listen to the cds if you want clean sound with a pavarotti voice! Live is live people. And Meat, if you are reading this, you still kick ass and thanx a LOT for being HONEST with that dvd.

11 Sep 2007, 13:41	#35
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,085	I think Meat sounds pretty good on this live show except for IACBTMN. He can't properly control his voice at the start and at the end of the song, while the middle is not bad. Other than that there is hardly anything to fault in my opinion. Bat stood out quite a bit (band sounds fantastic with super drumming at the start). Probably the best live version I've heard since MSO. This I think came quite close to how things sounded at RAH, though I still would have preferred a release from that show. Overall I think the production sounds great and can't see why people would think Meat has lost his voice based on this. If you compare this to the Ken Bruce show from last year I think this is a gazillion times better.

11 Sep 2007, 14:22	#38
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	a funny side note: The presenter talked a lot about Meat being in Cologne last june, and as being so successful, returning to our state, to Dortmund in October, BUT she didnt say one word about the DVD. lol

11 Sep 2007, 20:46	#40
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	Well i can honestly say that i would not base my opinion on an audio radio version of the upcoming DVD.(i have heard the radio version) I will wait to see the DVD,then decide what its like,see being the operative word for me. As for seeing Meat, in May every show for me was awesome,and i did not see much wrong with Meats performance,he missed a few notes,so what.

12 Sep 2007, 23:45	#41
Ma.Ra Trekkie Join Date: 25.07.2004 Location: in the middle of nowhere Posts: 863	I have listened to anything and rock'n' roll dreams yet and it isnt that bad! IMHO it isn't that bad how some saying here. I have already listen to worse performances of the big man. I have no problems with small overdubbing, but the german download release of IACBTM was too much overdubbed. I prefer the MSO much more than the storytellers dvd and I never had the feeling that the MSO was overdubbed

13 Sep 2007, 02:31	#42
meatrocks1 Senior Loafer Join Date: 02.12.2006 Location: ontario Posts: 144	BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO

17 Sep 2007, 20:10	#43
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,654	I thought they were all excellent recordings, except maybe Blind As A Bat where you could hardly hear what was being sung at times - it was loud, but sounded slurred. That may be just because it was streamed and mp3d though, so best to wait to see what the final release is like. I guess the thing is, a smallish band will never be quite the same as the MSO, but Meat sounds terrific, so hopefully it will be one helluva show!

15 Oct 2007, 12:22	#45
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	Not the full Setlist.. Its doing: The song list 21 to 22 All Revved Up All Revved Up Paradise By The Dashboard Light Paradise By the Dashboard Light You Took The Words Right Outta My Mouth You Took the Words Right Outta My Mouth Out Of The Frying Pan (And Into The Fire) Out Of The Frying Pan (And Into The Fire) I’d Do Anything For Love I'd Do Anything For Love Objects In The Rear View Mirror Objects in the Rear View Mirror The song list 22 to 23 Rock’n Roll Dreams / Seize The Night Blind As A Bat Two Out Of Three Ain’t Bad It’s All Coming Back To Me Now Bat Out Of Hell Mercury Blues Gimme Shelter It seems to be missing; TMIL, BFG, BB, Site: http://www.ndr2.de/pages_std_lib/0,3...EF6962,00.html

15 Oct 2007, 12:40	#46
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	touche.....most of it then

15 Oct 2007, 20:34	#48
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I will be listening to it and if you like I can record it and upload to the net for you all to get a copy of... Unless someone is willing to rip the audio from the dvd and upload for us??? Let me know before the show starts Ross

15 Oct 2007, 20:37	#49
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	i dont think that theres any need to record this, everybody will have the dvd soon anyway

15 Oct 2007, 20:38	#50
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	thats fine just a thought as there's no cd you might want a recording for cd or ipod etc...