The mystery of his voice... - Page 2

mszee · 05 May 2006, 14:05

I keep on thinking about it...so I've asked people who are not fans and don't know much about him what they think. Interesting...they also think that it's because he is an actor first and thinks more about getting into the character and expressing emotions than how his notes will come out...

Dave · 05 May 2006, 14:39

One thing you gotta' remmeber is Meat Loaf himself claims to entertain, not sing. I think it is all part of the act.

~Dave

mszee · 05 May 2006, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

One thing you gotta' remmeber is Meat Loaf himself claims to entertain, not sing. I think it is all part of the act.

~Dave

That is part of what I am trying to say, however, it explains WHY is he doing it...still doesn't explain HOW...do you know what I mean?

vrg · 05 May 2006, 20:22

Lucy is right about the acid reflux disease; Meat mentioned it in the commentary of MSO. But he also said he had been chewing gum a long time before that 'prescription' for medicinally dried out vocal chords. What I don't understand about the gum is how he can 'park' it so securely that it doesn't move no matter how open his mouth is, or how heavily he is singing.

And Meat does put acting first in his performances.

**RadioMaster** · 05 May 2006, 21:10

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Originally Posted by vrg

Lucy is right about the acid reflux disease; Meat mentioned it in the commentary of MSO. But he also said he had been chewing gum a long time before that 'prescription' for medicinally dried out vocal chords. What I don't understand about the gum is how he can 'park' it so securely that it doesn't move no matter how open his mouth is, or how heavily he is singing.

And Meat does put acting first in his performances.

You´re right Virginia, i´ve looked it up, too. I can´t understand how much gum he can chew while singing! I´ve counted 3 pieces of it. I whouldn´t be able to speak with so much gum!

vrg · 05 May 2006, 21:22

If I remember what he said correctly, Meat said he used to put in 5 pieces, but has now worked down to 4!

Fallen Angel · 05 May 2006, 21:50

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Originally Posted by vrg

Part 2: he chews gum to keep his vocal chords from drying out; has done so since the late 70's/early 80's.

thats a useful technique. i find chewing helps coz my vocals dry quick, i just wish others wld see it like that and not whine at u for chewing come when singing.
hugs
leeann

L96 · 06 May 2006, 03:13

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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel

thats a useful technique. i find chewing helps coz my vocals dry quick, i just wish others wld see it like that and not whine at u for chewing come when singing.
hugs
leeann

CarylB · 06 May 2006, 10:17

Scientists have explained why we see a rainbow arching across the sky and why chocolate makes us feel so good .. but the rainbow isn't any more beautiful for understanding what causes it, the chocolate doesn't taste any better .. and a Turner doesn't look any more wonderful for having its brushstrokes dissected

We have a cherry tree in my road which is a mix of pure white and pink blossoms .. the Council had all the white branches pruned away one year (the vandals!) .. but the white has grown back. It's one of a kind .. a small wonderment .. and like so many of life's miracles that lift one's heart, I don't need to pick them apart to try and understand them, but just bask in the joy they give

Meat sees himself as a performer rather than a singer of songs .. How does he do it? Who knows? Like a Turner or the cherry tree, he's one of those miracles in life that I'm just happy to have wash over me

))))

**RadioMaster** · 06 May 2006, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB

Scientists have explained why we see a rainbow arching across the sky and why chocolate makes us feel so good .. but the rainbow isn't any more beautiful for understanding what causes it, the chocolate doesn't taste any better .. and a Turner doesn't look any more wonderful for having its brushstrokes dissected

We have a cherry tree in my road which is a mix of pure white and pink blossoms .. the Council had all the white branches pruned away one year (the vandals!) .. but the white has grown back. It's one of a kind .. a small wonderment .. and like so many of life's miracles that lift one's heart, I don't need to pick them apart to try and understand them, but just bask in the joy they give

Meat sees himself as a performer rather than a singer of songs .. How does he do it? Who knows? Like a Turner or the cherry tree, he's one of those miracles in life that I'm just happy to have wash over me

))))

A very poetic statement. Thanks for that!

mszee · 06 May 2006, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Radiomaster

A very poetic statement. Thanks for that!

Very poetic and very true...I see things sort of the same way...

Fallen Angel · 07 May 2006, 12:03

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Originally Posted by lotus96

explain for me plz.
hugs
leeann

Jeanie · 08 May 2006, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel

explain for me plz.
hugs
leeann

Hi Fallen Angel

Lotus was being naughtie... LOL. Read the last line of your post above, about "chewing gum" or something else...

J.

mszee · 08 May 2006, 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Hi Fallen Angel

Lotus was being naughtie... LOL. Read the last line of your post above, about "chewing gum" or something else...

J.

Oh my dear lord...nobody noticed this until now...oh god...

I am dying here laughing....

L96 · 08 May 2006, 03:48

OI. I noticed.

It's a common enough typo, now play nice.

mszee · 08 May 2006, 03:56

Common enough typo??? In which language???? I am playing nice...I didn't bring it up...but it's still funnnneeeeeeee...

Fallen Angel · 08 May 2006, 16:06

lol

Pudding · 14 May 2006, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB

Scientists have explained why we see a rainbow arching across the sky and why chocolate makes us feel so good .. but the rainbow isn't any more beautiful for understanding what causes it, the chocolate doesn't taste any better .. and a Turner doesn't look any more wonderful for having its brushstrokes dissected

We have a cherry tree in my road which is a mix of pure white and pink blossoms .. the Council had all the white branches pruned away one year (the vandals!) .. but the white has grown back. It's one of a kind .. a small wonderment .. and like so many of life's miracles that lift one's heart, I don't need to pick them apart to try and understand them, but just bask in the joy they give

Meat sees himself as a performer rather than a singer of songs .. How does he do it? Who knows? Like a Turner or the cherry tree, he's one of those miracles in life that I'm just happy to have wash over me

))))

So you're saying Meat's a Cherry Tree

Pud

CarylB · 15 May 2006, 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

So you're saying Meat's a Cherry Tree

Pud

No

**RadioMaster** · 25 May 2006, 15:07

Have to reactivate this thread because I´ve noticed something:

We were talking about the two different ways of reaching voluminous notes. (bend over and the Pavarotti-way)
We´ve said that Meat bends over to reach voluminous notes and that´s very difficult to explain how it works.
(That was just a short review for those who didn´t read the posts above)

Did You see the AI performance?
There he´s singing exactly the other way...
Maybe that´s the reason why he wasn´t "that" good.

vrg · 25 May 2006, 16:01

I think he didn't get into 'position' as much as usual because he was holding back for Katherine, and not using even half of the power he is capable of.

BillyPhatu · 26 May 2006, 23:45

I think the way Meat sings, upon close examination, would make a professional opera singer cringe. From what i have noticed, he doesn't do a lot of heavy breathing when he performs. They are more like short, less controlled breaths. Opera singers don't have bigger lungs... they just have more control over their lungs and have the ability to get more air out of them. They have abdomens and back muscles like iron because they use them so much! Their sound, especially when it's biggest, comes from deep down inside them - they use the whole of their bodies to produce a sound. Standing in a different posture will create a different sound. Meat is the opposite to this really - most rock and pop singers are the same. You'll see him take a lot of breaths between phrases and words. He also uses his thoat and chest to shape the sound and give that unique vibrato of his. Overall it takes a lot more effort and strain to sing the way Meat does. So that's why I think Meat bends over a lot of the time to get big notes. He is using his upper body more than his lower body and bending over he is somehow trying to dig deep by tensing up. It's a habit he has gotten into. When he was younger he didn't do it so much. I think this way of singing has kind of taken its toll on him because you'll notice he needs to put a whole lot more effort in to performing now. Does any of what I said make sense

Meat still sound great though and always has done

PrissLoaf · 27 May 2006, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Pudding

So you're saying Meat's a Cherry Tree

Pud

if Steinman's a kitten, why couldn't Meat be a cherry tree?

05 May 2006, 14:05	#26
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	I keep on thinking about it...so I've asked people who are not fans and don't know much about him what they think. Interesting...they also think that it's because he is an actor first and thinks more about getting into the character and expressing emotions than how his notes will come out...

05 May 2006, 14:39	#27
Dave Mega Loafer Join Date: 12.04.2002 Location: Southern Ohio - United States of America Posts: 2,564	One thing you gotta' remmeber is Meat Loaf himself claims to entertain, not sing. I think it is all part of the act. ~Dave

05 May 2006, 20:22	#29
vrg Super Loafer Join Date: 30.10.2005 Location: Just outside Manhattan Posts: 671	Lucy is right about the acid reflux disease; Meat mentioned it in the commentary of MSO. But he also said he had been chewing gum a long time before that 'prescription' for medicinally dried out vocal chords. What I don't understand about the gum is how he can 'park' it so securely that it doesn't move no matter how open his mouth is, or how heavily he is singing. And Meat does put acting first in his performances.

05 May 2006, 21:22	#31
vrg Super Loafer Join Date: 30.10.2005 Location: Just outside Manhattan Posts: 671	If I remember what he said correctly, Meat said he used to put in 5 pieces, but has now worked down to 4!

06 May 2006, 10:17	#34
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Scientists have explained why we see a rainbow arching across the sky and why chocolate makes us feel so good .. but the rainbow isn't any more beautiful for understanding what causes it, the chocolate doesn't taste any better .. and a Turner doesn't look any more wonderful for having its brushstrokes dissected We have a cherry tree in my road which is a mix of pure white and pink blossoms .. the Council had all the white branches pruned away one year (the vandals!) .. but the white has grown back. It's one of a kind .. a small wonderment .. and like so many of life's miracles that lift one's heart, I don't need to pick them apart to try and understand them, but just bask in the joy they give Meat sees himself as a performer rather than a singer of songs .. How does he do it? Who knows? Like a Turner or the cherry tree, he's one of those miracles in life that I'm just happy to have wash over me ))))

08 May 2006, 03:48	#40
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	OI. I noticed. It's a common enough typo, now play nice.

08 May 2006, 03:56	#41
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Common enough typo??? In which language???? I am playing nice...I didn't bring it up...but it's still funnnneeeeeeee...

08 May 2006, 16:06	#42
Fallen Angel Youth Gone Wild Join Date: 19.09.2003 Location: See the mad one over there.... Posts: 693	lol

25 May 2006, 15:07	#45
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Have to reactivate this thread because I´ve noticed something: We were talking about the two different ways of reaching voluminous notes. (bend over and the Pavarotti-way) We´ve said that Meat bends over to reach voluminous notes and that´s very difficult to explain how it works. (That was just a short review for those who didn´t read the posts above) Did You see the AI performance? There he´s singing exactly the other way... Maybe that´s the reason why he wasn´t "that" good.

25 May 2006, 16:01	#46
vrg Super Loafer Join Date: 30.10.2005 Location: Just outside Manhattan Posts: 671	I think he didn't get into 'position' as much as usual because he was holding back for Katherine, and not using even half of the power he is capable of.

26 May 2006, 23:45	#47
BillyPhatu Loafer Join Date: 02.11.2003 Location: Dagenham, Essex Posts: 92	I think the way Meat sings, upon close examination, would make a professional opera singer cringe. From what i have noticed, he doesn't do a lot of heavy breathing when he performs. They are more like short, less controlled breaths. Opera singers don't have bigger lungs... they just have more control over their lungs and have the ability to get more air out of them. They have abdomens and back muscles like iron because they use them so much! Their sound, especially when it's biggest, comes from deep down inside them - they use the whole of their bodies to produce a sound. Standing in a different posture will create a different sound. Meat is the opposite to this really - most rock and pop singers are the same. You'll see him take a lot of breaths between phrases and words. He also uses his thoat and chest to shape the sound and give that unique vibrato of his. Overall it takes a lot more effort and strain to sing the way Meat does. So that's why I think Meat bends over a lot of the time to get big notes. He is using his upper body more than his lower body and bending over he is somehow trying to dig deep by tensing up. It's a habit he has gotten into. When he was younger he didn't do it so much. I think this way of singing has kind of taken its toll on him because you'll notice he needs to put a whole lot more effort in to performing now. Does any of what I said make sense Meat still sound great though and always has done