What should 'Brave & Crazy' sound like?

White of High · 13 Nov 2012, 23:12

In the last few days most of the fans were talking about his/her expectation of Brave & Crazy. I'm with the Steinman style but I'm just curious what should Brave & Crazy (or any new Meat album) sound like. So, vote!

MarkS · 13 Nov 2012, 23:13

I hope it follows the vein of the last two albums

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renegadeangel · 13 Nov 2012, 23:20

It should sound like whatever Meat decides it should sound like

White of High · 13 Nov 2012, 23:21

This topic is not about what Meat wants, it's about what fans want.

LucyK! · 13 Nov 2012, 23:22

I was going to say that...(though I didn't want to be picky as your info says you're from Budapest rather than the UK

) big difference between what it "should" sound like and what we hope it will sound like. I'm thinking it's probably the second one!

LucyK! · 13 Nov 2012, 23:27

I don't know what to pick based on that list!

I'd imagine it'll be closer to HCTB and HIAHB as that's what he's doing in this era, but who knows...he might suprise us all, might be something completely different that none of us will guess!

White of High · 13 Nov 2012, 23:32

What kind of style you want? - is it clearer?

CarylB · 13 Nov 2012, 23:53

I think the wording of your poll options betrays your own preferences and disappointment in his newer work

I wouldn't call HIAH "light" at all.

I think Meat found his musical style, the one he's been working towards, with his last two albums, and for me, in 2012/3, this is what I hope to hear more of. I love the "live" sound that Paul creates for us, and would expect Meat will move his style on creatively. This is also what I would like. I don't want him to go back, but keep moving forward, and I love the current blend of heavy guitar and Justin's brilliant piano. I opted for HIAH because there wasn't one that said "Keep moving forward, and surprise and delight me"

DJLeen · 13 Nov 2012, 23:54

I can't decide what to vote for... I have high expectations about Brave and crazy and I know it will be another GREAT album !!!!

White of High · 13 Nov 2012, 23:58

I don't call HCTB light either. But I call HIAHB light. It's not my preferences. HIAHB was one of his lightest album with soft ballads and easy rock songs. rap is rap, I wasn't pejorative. I was pejorative with Desmond Child like almost everybody here.

White of High · 13 Nov 2012, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJLeen

I can't decide what to vote for... I have high expectations about Brave and crazy and I know it will be another GREAT album !!!!

You say you have expectation. What's that?

CarylB · 14 Nov 2012, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

I don't call HCTB light either. But I call HIAHB light. It's not my preferences. HIAHB was one of his lightest album with soft ballads and easy rock songs. rap is rap, I wasn't pejorative. I was pejorative with Desmond Child like almost everybody here.

That's what I said .. it's your preference; you consider HIAH "light". Some don't. I think there is incredible depth in the songs, and the music isn't what I'd ever describe as "light"; it just isn't like Steinman. And my choice would be to keep moving forward based on the style that emerged in his last two albums.

Paul Richardson · 14 Nov 2012, 00:17

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Originally Posted by CarylB

It just isn't like Steinman. And my choice would be to keep moving forward based on the style that emerged in his last two albums.

... or backwards depending on your opinion. I'd like it to be more like Steinman, in fact by Steinman, they need to collaborate now !

CarylB · 14 Nov 2012, 00:21

OK .... moving ahead and exploring new avenues .. walking into the future .. experimenting with new and different sounds and styles, rather than returning to the style he started out with and pursued in the 90s.

You may well consider that a retrograde step in terms of meeting your wishes .. but it's not moving back, it's pursiung something new ..

White of High · 14 Nov 2012, 00:34

I'm sure Meat and Jim will never collaborate again and I'd be surprised if Meat recorded any Steinman song on the new album but... Meat is 65 years old and most of his fans became his fans because of Bat and heavy Steinman songs.

Meat is not young. I think he doesn't need to change the world so I don't undertand his future searching. He has fans and they are a little bit older and more old-fashioned than Justin Bieber's fans so I'm with people who want to see more Steinman songs. It will not happen because Meat wants to be young and maybe a little be scared to get back his succesful style...

Paul Richardson · 14 Nov 2012, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB

OK ... moving ahead and exploring new avenues .. walking into the future ... experimenting with new and different sounds and styles, rather than returning to the style he started out with and pursued in the 90s.

You may well consider that a retrograde step in terms of meeting your wishes .. but it's not moving back, it's pursung something new ...

Yes its moving on, or in a different direction - and if Jim is not up for it then he has no choice - but Meat is better with Jim and vice versa. Meat + Jim is where it all started, why we're all here, and why we continue to be here ...

CarylB · 14 Nov 2012, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

Meat is not young. I think he doesn't need to change the world so I don't undertand his future searching. .

It's called creative and artistic drive .. as Meat recently said when asked what his greatest accomplishment is to date “I haven’t had it yet, still working on it. When you can answer that question, it’s time to quit.” and "I look at (my work) artistically, because I have a lot to say"

ricgough · 14 Nov 2012, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

This topic is not about what Meat wants, it's about what fans want.

The best Meat Loaf albums sound big - really BIG, DECADENT and EXTRAVAGANT!

Needs songs that can justify that though. That's where many of the songs on TMIL fell short IMHO.

Benny · 14 Nov 2012, 02:05

Meat and Jim together would be brilliant... Also loved Bad Attitude too, Paul and Sarah great writers :)

Time will tell...

woop! woop!

Wario · 14 Nov 2012, 02:36

Steinman sound. needs what part of my body.

Mr. Happy · 14 Nov 2012, 07:59

I wouldn't mind a mix of Steinman, Rick Brantely and James Michael. I reckon that'd make for a pretty awesome album

Evil Ernie · 14 Nov 2012, 08:28

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Originally Posted by Wario

Steinman sound. needs what part of my body.

If it's the Steinman sound, the part of the body part that it needs is below the waist. In my faded levis.

JennaG · 14 Nov 2012, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

Yes its moving on, or in a different direction - and if Jim is not up for it then he has no choice - but Meat is better with Jim and vice versa. Meat + Jim is where it all started, why we're all here, and why we continue to be here ...

Whilst Jim Stienman may have written the songs that first made me notice Meat, my continued presence here has nothing to do with Jim Stienman, I'm here because I'm interested in and like Meat.

I buy a Meat Loaf album to hear Meat Loaf, it doesn't worry me who else is involved, be it Rob Cavallo, Jack Black or even Jim Stienman. I have enjoyed the albums that Meat has released without Jim, just as much as I have enjoyed any of the others and if you asked me what my favourite album was, it would be HIAH.

I trust Meat to release an album that I will enjoy and so far he hasn't disappointed and I continue to have every faith that will continue into the future.

Cherry.Loaf · 14 Nov 2012, 10:54

A mix of Bad attitude and HCTB would please me the most but I'm open to anything music wise

melon · 14 Nov 2012, 13:28

I think it should sound however the heck Meat & co want it to sound

View Poll Results: What should 'Brave & Crazy' sound like?
I want Steinman sound, power ballads and heavy choir	35	56.45%
Go back to the 80ies, Sarah Durkee and Paul Jacobs I want	5	8.06%
I like his lighter songs, more HIAHB-style albums	4	6.45%
More songs by James Michael like CHSIB	6	9.68%
I think rap is perfect on a Meat album	2	3.23%
Hate me but I find Bat3 great, so back to Desmond Child	5	8.06%
I love acoustic and Meat has never done one	3	4.84%
Let's sing opera!	2	3.23%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

13 Nov 2012, 23:12	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	What should 'Brave & Crazy' sound like? In the last few days most of the fans were talking about his/her expectation of Brave & Crazy. I'm with the Steinman style but I'm just curious what should Brave & Crazy (or any new Meat album) sound like. So, vote!

13 Nov 2012, 23:58	#10
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I don't call HCTB light either. But I call HIAHB light. It's not my preferences. HIAHB was one of his lightest album with soft ballads and easy rock songs. rap is rap, I wasn't pejorative. I was pejorative with Desmond Child like almost everybody here. Last edited by White of High; 14 Nov 2012 at 00:03.

13 Nov 2012, 23:13	#2
MarkS Super Loafer Join Date: 20.03.2012 Posts: 312	I hope it follows the vein of the last two albums Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

13 Nov 2012, 23:20	#3
renegadeangel Super Loafer Join Date: 18.05.2006 Posts: 604	It should sound like whatever Meat decides it should sound like

13 Nov 2012, 23:21	#4
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	This topic is not about what Meat wants, it's about what fans want.

13 Nov 2012, 23:22	#5
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I was going to say that...(though I didn't want to be picky as your info says you're from Budapest rather than the UK ) big difference between what it "should" sound like and what we hope it will sound like. I'm thinking it's probably the second one!

13 Nov 2012, 23:27	#6
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I don't know what to pick based on that list! I'd imagine it'll be closer to HCTB and HIAHB as that's what he's doing in this era, but who knows...he might suprise us all, might be something completely different that none of us will guess!

13 Nov 2012, 23:32	#7
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	What kind of style you want? - is it clearer?

13 Nov 2012, 23:53	#8
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I think the wording of your poll options betrays your own preferences and disappointment in his newer work I wouldn't call HIAH "light" at all. I think Meat found his musical style, the one he's been working towards, with his last two albums, and for me, in 2012/3, this is what I hope to hear more of. I love the "live" sound that Paul creates for us, and would expect Meat will move his style on creatively. This is also what I would like. I don't want him to go back, but keep moving forward, and I love the current blend of heavy guitar and Justin's brilliant piano. I opted for HIAH because there wasn't one that said "Keep moving forward, and surprise and delight me"

13 Nov 2012, 23:54	#9
DJLeen Super Loafer Join Date: 27.04.2011 Location: Vlimmeren , Belgium Posts: 212	I can't decide what to vote for... I have high expectations about Brave and crazy and I know it will be another GREAT album !!!!

14 Nov 2012, 00:21	#14
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	OK .... moving ahead and exploring new avenues .. walking into the future .. experimenting with new and different sounds and styles, rather than returning to the style he started out with and pursued in the 90s. You may well consider that a retrograde step in terms of meeting your wishes .. but it's not moving back, it's pursiung something new ..

14 Nov 2012, 00:34	#15
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I'm sure Meat and Jim will never collaborate again and I'd be surprised if Meat recorded any Steinman song on the new album but... Meat is 65 years old and most of his fans became his fans because of Bat and heavy Steinman songs. Meat is not young. I think he doesn't need to change the world so I don't undertand his future searching. He has fans and they are a little bit older and more old-fashioned than Justin Bieber's fans so I'm with people who want to see more Steinman songs. It will not happen because Meat wants to be young and maybe a little be scared to get back his succesful style...

14 Nov 2012, 02:05	#19
Benny Massive Loafer Join Date: 07.09.2005 Location: Posts: 3,084	Meat and Jim together would be brilliant... Also loved Bad Attitude too, Paul and Sarah great writers :) Time will tell... woop! woop!

14 Nov 2012, 02:36	#20
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Steinman sound. needs what part of my body.

14 Nov 2012, 07:59	#21
Mr. Happy Guest Join Date: 13.02.2010 Location: Posts: 736	I wouldn't mind a mix of Steinman, Rick Brantely and James Michael. I reckon that'd make for a pretty awesome album

14 Nov 2012, 10:54	#24
Cherry.Loaf Los Angeloser Join Date: 02.04.2010 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,072	A mix of Bad attitude and HCTB would please me the most but I'm open to anything music wise

14 Nov 2012, 13:28	#25
melon Long Distance Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 4,586	I think it should sound however the heck Meat & co want it to sound