internet ripoff.

stewbeef · 19 Sep 2006, 22:48

i cant believe ive come across a site where you can now download the full bat 3 album.i willnot say which site its on cos at the end of the day its lost revenue for meat.[and no i did not download it,but it was hard not to,just to listen to it.]

i will wait with everyone else till oct.

Blackkat13 · 19 Sep 2006, 22:57

I think I know the site your talking about true it is bad and all. It is still not on limewire for everyone to download so it still could be worst. It could be on Napster.......but yeah it is Sad.......and I totally agree with you

R. · 19 Sep 2006, 23:39

Care to PM me that site? A partial URL is fine.
If I'm correct and I think that I am, this is the digitally recorded XM broadcast split into separate tracks. Even if it's the 320 kbps mp3, it's still far from CD quality.

LucyK! · 19 Sep 2006, 23:43

I think people will listen to it just to hear the tracks but I doubt it'll stop anyone buying the CD...I'd bloody hope not anyway!

stewbeef · 19 Sep 2006, 23:53

r.you are correct it is on that site.

R. · 19 Sep 2006, 23:56

Thanks.

stewbeef · 19 Sep 2006, 23:57

lucy i agree real fans will buy the cd

TravisWRedfish · 20 Sep 2006, 00:46

Wow the album is awesome! I downloaded the whole thing, it sounds great! I'll be buying the CD as soon as it comes out anyway, but just so my conscience doesn't bother me, if anyone knows Meat's email address, please let me know and I'll Paypal him some $ right away! :)

Ma.Ra · 20 Sep 2006, 00:52

It is the certain radio interview what we are talking about or another thing?

TravisWRedfish · 20 Sep 2006, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by macrapper

It is the certain radio interview what we are talking about or another thing?

It's the complete songs, not any radio interview.

djfierce · 20 Sep 2006, 01:00

it is the radio interview with the interview parts taken out and songs seperated i believe

Alex · 20 Sep 2006, 01:12

I've got the same. No chat, just the songs. However, I'll most certainly be buying the CD (and probably a spare, and the Vinyl, oh and maybe a special edition - not to mention the box set, oh and.. erm, you get the picture

).

AndrewG · 20 Sep 2006, 01:27

Yeah I agree. That site has got some good recordings of the broadcast. Miles better than the flimsy recording I did of the internet radio. That dude must have had satellite receiver quality or so. Still the sound will be even better on the album and "not buying a Meat Loaf album" simply does not appear in my vocabulary! I doubt this site will have a massive impact on the record sales as only the real hard core fans seems to know about it... But I am thinking maybe the owner should be respectful enough to delete the files soon (certainly once the album is out).

Just listening to "Blind as a Bat" (oh my god is this good!)

MeatGrl1 · 20 Sep 2006, 01:30

My dad downloaded it

!

However I AM BUYING THE CD WHEN IT COMES OUT!

Stewbeef change your aveta mate that's Neil's
[THEFLYINGMOUSE]!

Paul191 · 20 Sep 2006, 01:31

Sorry guys, but where is this site? Please PM me. Cheers

yemabef · 20 Sep 2006, 09:32

I hope it's the same one I came across yesterday or else this could be wider reaching than we think. If it is though, unfortunately that site has a history of ridiculing any legal threats and is apparently protected due both to the country that its based in and a technicality in its operations so no one's been able to touch it, so the file'll probably be there to stay. Knowing them, any efforts by lawyers will just get posted on a page they have for all threats of legal action and that'll just draw more attention to its availability (I had been considering bringing it to Meat's attention until I discovered this was the same site I'd read about before, back when that legal page had seemed funnier...).

sunneke · 20 Sep 2006, 09:32

Please pm me to????? And i will buy the cd!!! i've allways done that and i will always do!

mszee · 20 Sep 2006, 10:17

To me it's like an advertisement for the CD...and the more I hear...the more I want to hear CD quality.

meatloaf-unofficial · 20 Sep 2006, 11:30

Can someone please pm the site we are talking about. I only want to check the site out - I will not download, as I agree that it is not supporting Meat in any way - as money concerns and I will be buying one of the new album - We need to support Meat!!!

ROSIE · 20 Sep 2006, 11:37

Me too please so we can check it ans if possible protest about to them directly

Rosie

Jayd · 20 Sep 2006, 12:52

Would like to see this site also, if someone can PM me the link, don't worry, I got my CD pre-ordered, and will be also buying the US version, whilst I am in Florida at end of October, just being nosey, and wanna have a look.

Cheers

L96 · 20 Sep 2006, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

Stewbeef change your aveta mate that's Neil's
[THEFLYINGMOUSE]!

Avatars are generic, thus no ownership rights are granted. Thank you.

Eddie's Teddy · 20 Sep 2006, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by L96

Avatars are generic, thus no ownership rights are granted. Thank you.

Yeah the one Neil is using is one of the MLUK choices, it's not his own like SLMs for example....

fireballgirl63 · 20 Sep 2006, 14:14

Maybe I'm missing something, so someone tell me if I'm wrong. I'm not sure exactly which site you are all talking about. I know that a link to one site for the entire XM interview and play of the album has been posted here as well as other places, including .net.

I can't imagine that Meat Loaf and others were naive enough to think that with today's technology that the album wasn't going to recorded and the interview split apart so that the tracks were separated and then posted somewhere on the internet.

I'm pretty certain that since the interview, Meat Loaf has been to this site (and possibly others) multiple times - and in my opinion it was probably to see what people are saying about the album. It's almost like those of us aware of the more popular Meat Loaf sites are an inner circle of fans and ones that will give an honest review of what they are hearing and I think he obviously is interested in what is being said which is why he's been here.

I also know (because I asked) that not he or anyone else associated with him has asked that at least one of the downloads be removed. And if that was what he wanted, I think he would have asked (he knows who runs the site and who the mods are) and the request would have been honored.

So I think that maybe some of us are jumping the gun a bit here by thinking that this is all a bad thing. I believe that the majority of fans registered at this and other sites are going to be going right out and buying the actual CD when it is released - regardless of whether they have already downloaded it from the XM interview.

I mean look at all that was already "leaked" early - might it not be some of the intentional promotion of this album. It was plainly obvious before these fans heard the album that there was a great amount of controversy surrounding it and who was and was not producing and writing for it and what it should and should not be called - now we've all mostly heard it and can actually comment instead of speculate and go spread the word about the CD.

It's a new marketing age with all the new technology and the internet and the way that the word about bands and music gets shared. I think that possibly this was just part of that new marketing.

This is just my opinion. But I happen to like having the "rough" version of Bat III already - it's like I'm in on this wonderful little secret and just waiting for it to finally be shared with the world.

ROSIE · 20 Sep 2006, 14:17

I agree, but until I know which site the downlocad is available from I and others can only specualte, which we can be dangerous!!! so can some one please pm the people including myself that have asked for the link. That way we can make our own minds up. I like others have the album on pre-order.
Thanks
Rosie

19 Sep 2006, 22:48	#1
stewbeef Junior Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2006 Location: manchester Posts: 39	internet ripoff. i cant believe ive come across a site where you can now download the full bat 3 album.i willnot say which site its on cos at the end of the day its lost revenue for meat.[and no i did not download it,but it was hard not to,just to listen to it.] i will wait with everyone else till oct.

19 Sep 2006, 22:57	#2
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	A Shame I think I know the site your talking about true it is bad and all. It is still not on limewire for everyone to download so it still could be worst. It could be on Napster.......but yeah it is Sad.......and I totally agree with you

20 Sep 2006, 01:30	#14
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	My dad downloaded it! However I AM BUYING THE CD WHEN IT COMES OUT! Stewbeef change your aveta mate that's Neil's [THEFLYINGMOUSE]!

19 Sep 2006, 23:39	#3
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	Care to PM me that site? A partial URL is fine. If I'm correct and I think that I am, this is the digitally recorded XM broadcast split into separate tracks. Even if it's the 320 kbps mp3, it's still far from CD quality.

19 Sep 2006, 23:43	#4
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I think people will listen to it just to hear the tracks but I doubt it'll stop anyone buying the CD...I'd bloody hope not anyway!

19 Sep 2006, 23:53	#5
stewbeef Junior Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2006 Location: manchester Posts: 39	r.you are correct it is on that site.

19 Sep 2006, 23:56	#6
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	Thanks.

19 Sep 2006, 23:57	#7
stewbeef Junior Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2006 Location: manchester Posts: 39	lucy i agree real fans will buy the cd

20 Sep 2006, 00:46	#8
TravisWRedfish Loafer Join Date: 24.01.2006 Posts: 70	Wow the album is awesome! I downloaded the whole thing, it sounds great! I'll be buying the CD as soon as it comes out anyway, but just so my conscience doesn't bother me, if anyone knows Meat's email address, please let me know and I'll Paypal him some $ right away! :)

20 Sep 2006, 00:52	#9
Ma.Ra Trekkie Join Date: 25.07.2004 Location: in the middle of nowhere Posts: 863	It is the certain radio interview what we are talking about or another thing?

20 Sep 2006, 01:00	#11
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	it is the radio interview with the interview parts taken out and songs seperated i believe

20 Sep 2006, 01:12	#12
Alex Ooh weee ooOOoh! Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: In the Land of the Manc's Posts: 445	I've got the same. No chat, just the songs. However, I'll most certainly be buying the CD (and probably a spare, and the Vinyl, oh and maybe a special edition - not to mention the box set, oh and.. erm, you get the picture ).

20 Sep 2006, 01:27	#13
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,083	Yeah I agree. That site has got some good recordings of the broadcast. Miles better than the flimsy recording I did of the internet radio. That dude must have had satellite receiver quality or so. Still the sound will be even better on the album and "not buying a Meat Loaf album" simply does not appear in my vocabulary! I doubt this site will have a massive impact on the record sales as only the real hard core fans seems to know about it... But I am thinking maybe the owner should be respectful enough to delete the files soon (certainly once the album is out). Just listening to "Blind as a Bat" (oh my god is this good!)

20 Sep 2006, 01:31	#15
Paul191 Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.11.2005 Location: Posts: 1,530	Sorry guys, but where is this site? Please PM me. Cheers

20 Sep 2006, 09:32	#16
yemabef Junior Loafer Join Date: 06.05.2006 Posts: 47	I hope it's the same one I came across yesterday or else this could be wider reaching than we think. If it is though, unfortunately that site has a history of ridiculing any legal threats and is apparently protected due both to the country that its based in and a technicality in its operations so no one's been able to touch it, so the file'll probably be there to stay. Knowing them, any efforts by lawyers will just get posted on a page they have for all threats of legal action and that'll just draw more attention to its availability (I had been considering bringing it to Meat's attention until I discovered this was the same site I'd read about before, back when that legal page had seemed funnier...).

20 Sep 2006, 09:32	#17
sunneke Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.01.2006 Location: Amersfoort Posts: 2,263	Please pm me to????? And i will buy the cd!!! i've allways done that and i will always do!

20 Sep 2006, 10:17	#18
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	To me it's like an advertisement for the CD...and the more I hear...the more I want to hear CD quality.

20 Sep 2006, 11:30	#19
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	*Can someone please pm the site we are talking about.* I only want to check the site out - I will not download, as I agree that it is not supporting Meat in any way - as money concerns and I will be buying one of the new album - We need to support Meat!!!

20 Sep 2006, 11:37	#20
ROSIE Invisible again! Join Date: 30.06.2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,240	Me too please so we can check it ans if possible protest about to them directly Rosie

20 Sep 2006, 12:52	#21
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,314	Would like to see this site also, if someone can PM me the link, don't worry, I got my CD pre-ordered, and will be also buying the US version, whilst I am in Florida at end of October, just being nosey, and wanna have a look. Cheers

20 Sep 2006, 14:14	#24
fireballgirl63 Senior Loafer Join Date: 07.11.2003 Location: Posts: 196	Maybe I'm missing something, so someone tell me if I'm wrong. I'm not sure exactly which site you are all talking about. I know that a link to one site for the entire XM interview and play of the album has been posted here as well as other places, including .net. I can't imagine that Meat Loaf and others were naive enough to think that with today's technology that the album wasn't going to recorded and the interview split apart so that the tracks were separated and then posted somewhere on the internet. I'm pretty certain that since the interview, Meat Loaf has been to this site (and possibly others) multiple times - and in my opinion it was probably to see what people are saying about the album. It's almost like those of us aware of the more popular Meat Loaf sites are an inner circle of fans and ones that will give an honest review of what they are hearing and I think he obviously is interested in what is being said which is why he's been here. I also know (because I asked) that not he or anyone else associated with him has asked that at least one of the downloads be removed. And if that was what he wanted, I think he would have asked (he knows who runs the site and who the mods are) and the request would have been honored. So I think that maybe some of us are jumping the gun a bit here by thinking that this is all a bad thing. I believe that the majority of fans registered at this and other sites are going to be going right out and buying the actual CD when it is released - regardless of whether they have already downloaded it from the XM interview. I mean look at all that was already "leaked" early - might it not be some of the intentional promotion of this album. It was plainly obvious before these fans heard the album that there was a great amount of controversy surrounding it and who was and was not producing and writing for it and what it should and should not be called - now we've all mostly heard it and can actually comment instead of speculate and go spread the word about the CD. It's a new marketing age with all the new technology and the internet and the way that the word about bands and music gets shared. I think that possibly this was just part of that new marketing. This is just my opinion. But I happen to like having the "rough" version of Bat III already - it's like I'm in on this wonderful little secret and just waiting for it to finally be shared with the world.

20 Sep 2006, 14:17	#25
ROSIE Invisible again! Join Date: 30.06.2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,240	I agree, but until I know which site the downlocad is available from I and others can only specualte, which we can be dangerous!!! so can some one please pm the people including myself that have asked for the link. That way we can make our own minds up. I like others have the album on pre-order. Thanks Rosie