Welcome To The Neighbourhood Collector's Edition Live Tracks

AndrewG · 16 Aug 2016, 15:14

Never listened to the live CD before today.

Why is "Anything for love" such a useless short edit but more importantly why is "Runnin for The Red Light (I gotta life)" a "fake" live track? It isn't live at all. Just the album version with audience cheer mixed into it at the very end.
Did Meat ever perform this song live? It wasn't on the Born To Rock setlist.
Why not leave this off the CD and give us a more proper rendition, possibly non edited at all, of AFL.

Very strange.

AndrewG · 16 Aug 2016, 15:53

I see it was performed in 2012. But it's not that version for sure.

Wario · 16 Aug 2016, 15:55

Redlight been performed at every show since 2012. it opened the last at bat shows you were at.

My biggest question is why not put not a dry eye on the CD instead of Redlight and the truncated Hudson Theater 1994 performance of AFL. Dry Eye was literally aired on TV!!

AndrewG · 16 Aug 2016, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Wario

Redlight been performed at every show since 2012. it opened the last at bat shows you were at.

Shows you I don't pay much attention to this song at all. But why fool us with a non live version branded as live? I find it a bit insulting when you fog something off like that branded as "Collector's Edition" Presumably a Collector isn't an idiot and would notice the difference between an album and live version of a song.

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Originally Posted by Wario

My biggest question is why not put not a dry eye on the CD instead of Redlight and the truncated Hudson Theater 1994 performance of AFL. Dry Eye was literally aired on TV!!

Dry eye was a proper single. Red Light was some fake thingy over here in the UK without a video. Don't get why that would get priority indeed.

Wario · 16 Aug 2016, 17:06

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Shows you I don't pay much attention to this song at all. But why fool us with a non live version branded as live? I find it a bit insulting when you fog something off like that branded as "Collector's Edition" Presumably a Collector isn't an idiot and would notice the difference between an album and live version of a song.

Dry eye was a proper single. Red Light was some fake thingy over here in the UK without a video. Don't get why that would get priority indeed.

especially when the studio version is in the same set. stupidness. had dry eye been included on the live disk itd be a perfect set

ThatWriterGuy · 16 Aug 2016, 17:34

I actually remember buying this CD (a red CD if I remember rightly, with an orange/yellow 'pulp art' cover with a 1950s style automobile on the front) for a friend in the 90s. He was a big ML fan (in fact, we went to the 'Very Best Of' tour in Sheffield together), and I always thought that he loved that CD ... right up to the point where I opened up the glove compartment one day, took out that red CD, and in a perfectly flat tone he just said, yeah, don't play that one, I hate it!!

Wario · 16 Aug 2016, 18:11

Redlight is honestly not the best.

AndrewG · 16 Aug 2016, 18:37

Would have made more sense if the collector's edition had the Beacon Theatre Show on DVD along with the promo videos and interview and the live CD was only that of the show. No idea why they added some stuff from Live Around the world and the aforementioned non live track.

ThatWriterGuy · 16 Aug 2016, 19:58

Ha, what am I talking about? That's a completely different version. This was the Red Light 'single' with Lemon, Amnesty, and Dead Ringer live tracks.

Wario · 17 Aug 2016, 06:57

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Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy

Ha, what am I talking about? That's a completely different version. This was the Red Light 'single' with Lemon, Amnesty, and Dead Ringer live tracks.

my sigle has midnight live and revved live

evil nickname · 17 Aug 2016, 10:41

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Why is "Anything for love" such a useless short edit but more importantly why is "Runnin for The Red Light (I gotta life)" a "fake" live track?

Apart from Took the Words and Bat, all songs on the live disc were taken from the single B-sides. That edit of "Anything for Love" was one of the Japanese bonus tracks, and is also on the "Lie for You" single.

The album version of "Running for the Red Light" appeared on the "Limited Edition" digipack (along with "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning") and with quality control being, well, crappy, I can see how it got on there. It has been removed from subsequent versions.

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Would have made more sense if the collector's edition had the Beacon Theatre Show on DVD along with the promo videos and interview and the live CD was only that of the show. No idea why they added some stuff from Live Around the world and the aforementioned non live track.

Sure, but with these things it's a matter of what they have available. Perhaps putting the full Beacon show on the DVD would have required remastering, digital polishing, rights needed to be acquired, whatever...

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Originally Posted by Wario

my sigle has midnight live and revved live

On CD? if so, details please. I thought those two were only on the 12" picture disc.

AndrewG · 17 Aug 2016, 11:13

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Originally Posted by evil nickname

The album version of "Running for the Red Light" appeared on the "Limited Edition" digipack (along with "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning") and with quality control being, well, crappy, I can see how it got on there. It has been removed from subsequent versions.

Sure, but with these things it's a matter of what they have available. Perhaps putting the full Beacon show on the DVD would have required remastering, digital polishing, rights needed to be acquired, whatever...

That's very interesting. Indeed I see it isn't on the digital release now.
It is a shame that the few live TV shows in the 90s have never properly been released in full and indeed probably never will (except for Storytellers).

Mr Flibble · 17 Aug 2016, 13:02

It's a good song but "Where the rubber meets the road" would have been a better single. For a song without a video nor any promotion it did quite well to get to #21 in the UK.

AndrewG · 17 Aug 2016, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Mr Flibble

It's a good song but "Where the rubber meets the road" would have been a better single. For a song without a video nor any promotion it did quite well to get to #21 in the UK.

Love Where the rubber meets the road...

samurai7 · 17 Aug 2016, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Mr Flibble

It's a good song but "Where the rubber meets the road" would have been a better single. For a song without a video nor any promotion it did quite well to get to #21 in the UK.

Yes very impressive, also considering it was also a B-side to I'd lie for you before the album's release. I thought there was a preclusion to releasing former B-sides as A-sides later on, but this one must have slipped through the net.

Wario · 17 Aug 2016, 19:09

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Originally Posted by samurai7

Yes very impressive, also considering it was also a B-side to I'd lie for you before the album's release. I thought there was a preclusion to releasing former B-sides as A-sides later on, but this one must have slipped through the net.

A live version was the b side

rockfenris2005 · 18 Aug 2016, 03:12

Red Light is based on a classic Vanda & Young song called 'Good Times'. I've never understood why the rewrite.

evil nickname · 18 Aug 2016, 08:37

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Originally Posted by samurai7

Yes very impressive, also considering it was also a B-side to I'd lie for you before the album's release. I thought there was a preclusion to releasing former B-sides as A-sides later on, but this one must have slipped through the net.

I think you're mixing up Red Light (album version on the limited edition Lie for You single) and Rubber (live version on the Not a Dry Eye single here).

Wario · 18 Aug 2016, 16:30

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Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

Red Light is based on a classic Vanda & Young song called 'Good Times'. I've never understood why the rewrite.

never knew this !!

AndrewG · 18 Aug 2016, 17:38

Didn't know this either but is indeed almost the same. Just different lyrics. Much prefer the original chorus lyrics:
"I'm gonna have a good time tonight
Rock and roll music gonna play all night
Come on, baby, it won't take long
Only take a minute just to sing my song"

Terrible lip sync video of that song: Watch out for the terrible piano re-enactment.

YouTube Video

Guess the best bit about runnin is the bridge
"Got the time to take it.
Got the balls to break it.
Gotta a car that it'll make it.
South of the border,
Don't drink the water."

ThatWriterGuy · 18 Aug 2016, 17:54

Actually, Red Light is based on the (far superior) INXS version of 'Good Times' from the Lost Boys movie:

YouTube Video

Meat heard it in the early 90s and wanted 'something with a similar vibe'

samurai7 · 18 Aug 2016, 18:01

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Originally Posted by evil nickname

I think you're mixing up Red Light (album version on the limited edition Lie for You single) and Rubber (live version on the Not a Dry Eye single here).

Nope, as Rubber never became a single, and never reached number 21. I was talking about Red Light. I never mentioned Rubber, just quoted someone who said Red Light was a good song that did well to get to 21 without a video

samurai7 · 18 Aug 2016, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Wario

A live version was the b side

Live version of what? I'm talking about Red Light

rockfenris2005 · 18 Aug 2016, 19:29

I think there was a promo single for Amnesty Is Granted as well, right?

My single for Red Light has a live version of Amnesty.

16 Aug 2016, 15:14	#1
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,080	Welcome To The Neighbourhood Collector's Edition Live Tracks Never listened to the live CD before today. Why is "Anything for love" such a useless short edit but more importantly why is "Runnin for The Red Light (I gotta life)" a "fake" live track? It isn't live at all. Just the album version with audience cheer mixed into it at the very end. Did Meat ever perform this song live? It wasn't on the Born To Rock setlist. Why not leave this off the CD and give us a more proper rendition, possibly non edited at all, of AFL. Very strange.

16 Aug 2016, 15:53	#2
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,080	I see it was performed in 2012. But it's not that version for sure.

16 Aug 2016, 15:55	#3
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Redlight been performed at every show since 2012. it opened the last at bat shows you were at. My biggest question is why not put not a dry eye on the CD instead of Redlight and the truncated Hudson Theater 1994 performance of AFL. Dry Eye was literally aired on TV!!

16 Aug 2016, 17:34	#6
ThatWriterGuy Super Loafer Join Date: 19.10.2015 Location: UK Posts: 675	I actually remember buying this CD (a red CD if I remember rightly, with an orange/yellow 'pulp art' cover with a 1950s style automobile on the front) for a friend in the 90s. He was a big ML fan (in fact, we went to the 'Very Best Of' tour in Sheffield together), and I always thought that he loved that CD ... right up to the point where I opened up the glove compartment one day, took out that red CD, and in a perfectly flat tone he just said, yeah, don't play that one, I hate it!!

16 Aug 2016, 18:11	#7
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Redlight is honestly not the best.

16 Aug 2016, 18:37	#8
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,080	Would have made more sense if the collector's edition had the Beacon Theatre Show on DVD along with the promo videos and interview and the live CD was only that of the show. No idea why they added some stuff from Live Around the world and the aforementioned non live track.

16 Aug 2016, 19:58	#9
ThatWriterGuy Super Loafer Join Date: 19.10.2015 Location: UK Posts: 675	Ha, what am I talking about? That's a completely different version. This was the Red Light 'single' with Lemon, Amnesty, and Dead Ringer live tracks.

17 Aug 2016, 13:02	#13
Mr Flibble Junior Loafer Join Date: 20.07.2016 Location: Leicester Posts: 37	It's a good song but "Where the rubber meets the road" would have been a better single. For a song without a video nor any promotion it did quite well to get to #21 in the UK.

18 Aug 2016, 03:12	#17
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Red Light is based on a classic Vanda & Young song called 'Good Times'. I've never understood why the rewrite.

18 Aug 2016, 19:29	#24
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	I think there was a promo single for Amnesty Is Granted as well, right? My single for Red Light has a live version of Amnesty.