VCR / DVR / HDR ?

AndrewG · 20 Dec 2010, 00:26

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Originally Posted by tink

Yes and my problem, too, with the need to get a vcr player/ record is I have piles and piles and piles AND piles of vcr tapes containing shows I copied from tv I enjoy watching and now can't ...

... lol ... My mother-in-law has a vcr player she's not using. Maybe she can give it to Santa who can give it to meee ... lol ...

I think there are a couple of other people out there with a VCR player that they are not using too.

Ever heard of DVD or HDD?

Evil One · 20 Dec 2010, 00:40

HDD is the way forward. My V+ box with Virgin Media is great. When it works.

AndrewG · 20 Dec 2010, 00:53

When I moved into my house in May 2006 I had a box packed with VHS tapes and some Meat recorded tapes amongst there and the Brixton show, London 1982 and Bat 2 picture. It's still all packed up in the garage. That's how often I use VCR. I'd rather just wait and see what else gets released (or indeed watch off YouTube) rather than see if that old stuff still works. Indeed - bringing this back to topic - I don't think there is much wrong with watching stuff that was on TV somewhere that someone has put up on YouTube. I don't really consider that illegal in the same sense of filesharing albums. If content on YouTube was really only filtered down to copyright owned material I reckon probably about 90% YT content would have to go and it would be an extremely boring amateur video site.

carole · 20 Dec 2010, 05:38

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Originally Posted by tink

Yes and my problem, too, with the need to get a vcr player/ record is I have piles and piles and piles AND piles of vcr tapes containing shows I copied from tv I enjoy watching and now can't ...

... lol ... My mother-in-law has a vcr player she's not using. Maybe she can give it to Santa who can give it to meee ... lol ...

Sounds like a plan tink, hopefully if you drop some hints she may give it to you. I'm the same and have heaps of VHS tapes filled with things I've taped off the TV. I even have an old beta video recorder which doesn't work any more and old beta tapes lying around somewhere.

Carole

AndrewG · 20 Dec 2010, 08:44

Why would you wait for any specific person to give someone a VHS player. I'm sure you can find one on ebay anywhere in the world, or craig's list. Failing that, maybe try the local dumpster.

JennaG · 20 Dec 2010, 09:49

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I think there are a couple of other people out there with a VCR player that they are not using too.

Ever heard of DVD or HDD?

I still use my VHS player daily to watch videos because I like to watch something interesting during ad breaks and DVD players take too long to load and they don't remember the exact point that you finished watching. I still record onto VHS becaus I bought a DVD recorder once but the damn thing never works properly.

On the subject of illegal downloads and the music industry. I would never download something that was available from legal sources but I've seen a couple of bootlegs and some of them are absolute treasures that I'd have loved to have seen live but was too young. These recordings did add to my admiration of Meat's talent for putting on a fantastic show and I remember after seeing the first one I said to myself that I had to see this man live. I was lucky enough to have been able to do that this year. If these recordings do get released from an official source then I will gladly purchase them because I enjoy them so much.

I've made my decision to watch these recordings, just as some others have decided not to. That's fair enough in my mind.

CarylB · 20 Dec 2010, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

I still use my VHS player daily to watch videos because I like to watch something interesting during ad breaks and DVD players take too long to load and they don't remember the exact point that you finished watching. I still record onto VHS becaus I bought a DVD recorder once but the damn thing never works properly.

Me too :) Far more flexible to use imo. I have a DVD/VCR .. and as far as asking others have they heard of DVD? .. I never expend other's resources on their behalf

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On the subject of illegal downloads and the music industry. .......
I've made my decision to watch these recordings, just as some others have decided not to. That's fair enough in my mind.

Absolutely .. each of us has the right to make their own decision without needing to justify or defend it.

Caryl

Sue K · 20 Dec 2010, 15:45

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Ever heard of DVD or HDD?

Yes, but as of yet, I haven't managed to figure out how to play my vcr tapes on my dvd player. Anyone ? ...

... lol ...

Sue K · 20 Dec 2010, 15:55

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Why would you wait for any specific person to give someone a VHS player. I'm sure you can find one on ebay anywhere in the world, or craig's list. Failing that, maybe try the local dumpster.

My household is on tight budget due to economy. Necessaties come first THEN fun ! ... lol ... And don't "razz" about "recycling one man's trash into treasure". Would you believe this morning someone was throwing BOOKS out? SACRILEGE ! I rescued them, of course ... lol ...

And back to topic, thanks to all who explained bootlegs and legality vs illegality on the subject to me !

duke knooby · 20 Dec 2010, 18:16

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Originally Posted by tink

Yes, but as of yet, I haven't managed to figure out how to play my vcr tapes on my dvd player. Anyone ? ...

... lol ...

thats a tricky one to be fair... i could tell you how to play dvd's in the dvd player, or video tapes in a vcr, but i dunno how you play a vcr tape in a dvd player... it just wont fit

best to get it recorded onto a dvd, then play the dvd in your dvd player

AndrewG · 20 Dec 2010, 18:53

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Originally Posted by tink

My household is on tight budget due to economy. Necessaties come first THEN fun ! ... lol ... And don't "razz" about "recycling one man's trash into treasure". Would you believe this morning someone was throwing BOOKS out? SACRILEGE ! I rescued them, of course ... lol ...

With VCRs originally costing £1000s and now DVD recorders costing a fraction of that (in fact disks are much cheaper if you are in fact interested in "recording") I personally think staying with the old VCR technology because of financial reasons nonsense to be honest unless you can never afford to replace anything which with any technology is almost an impossible scenario regardless. I'm sure you can get a second hand DVD recorder in your country for $10-$25, like you can here in the UK. A VCR would probably cost you the same. In my opinion at this stage sticking with VCR has to be regarded as doing so purely by choice or ignorance.

Evil One · 20 Dec 2010, 18:58

I would actually bypass the DVD recorder all together and go straight to HDD. I seem to recall my DVD recorder being more of a faff than the VCR it replaced.

AndrewG · 20 Dec 2010, 19:02

Well that's what I mean, I can understand the justification in using a VCR for a convenience thing. I just think the financial side of it is completely unjust. VCRs were never cheaper than DVD recorders are now and as I said you can buy a stack of disks for a fraction of how much tapes used to cost. HDD is indeed the way to go.

Wario · 20 Dec 2010, 19:34

Tapes, arguably though, have better quality

Evil One · 20 Dec 2010, 19:40

Argue that fact then.

duke knooby · 20 Dec 2010, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Holy One

HDD is the way forward. My V+ box with Virgin Media is great. When it works.

hopefully you'll get a tivo one next

carole · 20 Dec 2010, 22:09

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Originally Posted by tink

Yes, but as of yet, I haven't managed to figure out how to play my vcr tapes on my dvd player. Anyone ? ...

... lol ...

No you can't do that. ha ha But if you have both a video recorder and a DVD recorder you can copy whats on your tape onto a disc. I'm lucky, I still have one remaining video recorder which works so I have it set up next to my DVD recorder so I can copy stuff from video to DVD.

Carole

daveake · 20 Dec 2010, 22:17

That's what I've done too. All the VHS tapes got copied to DVD and then, aside from a few "keepers", got dumped.

AndrewG · 20 Dec 2010, 22:19

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Tapes, arguably though, have better quality

Please clarify and give examples.

stretch37 · 20 Dec 2010, 23:42

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Please clarify and give examples.

lol

MeatGrl1 · 21 Dec 2010, 00:55

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I think there are a couple of other people out there with a VCR player that they are not using too.

Ever heard of DVD or HDD?

Do not knock the good ol' VCR !!!

I have some very rare Elvis stuff on VCR that you currently cannot get on DVD so for me having a VCR is essential, I also have some rare Meat stuff on VCR that is also not currently available on DVD !!

daveake · 21 Dec 2010, 10:10

VHS is old but was never actually good. Even when it came out it was eclipsed technically by Betamax and that Phillips system.

If you have a DVD recorder it's very easy to copy VHS to DVD. Or a video capture device on a PC will do the job. Then the bulky old tapes can get dumped in a landfill somewhere. We sold a load at car boot sales but these days they're almost unsellable.

daveake · 21 Dec 2010, 10:11

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Please clarify and give examples.

I guess that Masculine on VHS would be his holy grail ...

AndrewG · 21 Dec 2010, 11:08

As long as it's not a VHS tape with the original 27 minute Surf's Up music video on it and when you play it backwards you get an unheard live version of Meat performing Renegade Angel with Jim Steinman playing Tuba with his toes.

Evil One · 21 Dec 2010, 11:28

You have that tape too? And there I was thinking my collection was superior!

20 Dec 2010, 00:40	#2
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	HDD is the way forward. My V+ box with Virgin Media is great. When it works.

20 Dec 2010, 00:53	#3
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	When I moved into my house in May 2006 I had a box packed with VHS tapes and some Meat recorded tapes amongst there and the Brixton show, London 1982 and Bat 2 picture. It's still all packed up in the garage. That's how often I use VCR. I'd rather just wait and see what else gets released (or indeed watch off YouTube) rather than see if that old stuff still works. Indeed - bringing this back to topic - I don't think there is much wrong with watching stuff that was on TV somewhere that someone has put up on YouTube. I don't really consider that illegal in the same sense of filesharing albums. If content on YouTube was really only filtered down to copyright owned material I reckon probably about 90% YT content would have to go and it would be an extremely boring amateur video site.

20 Dec 2010, 08:44	#5
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Why would you wait for any specific person to give someone a VHS player. I'm sure you can find one on ebay anywhere in the world, or craig's list. Failing that, maybe try the local dumpster.

20 Dec 2010, 18:58	#12
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I would actually bypass the DVD recorder all together and go straight to HDD. I seem to recall my DVD recorder being more of a faff than the VCR it replaced.

20 Dec 2010, 19:02	#13
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Well that's what I mean, I can understand the justification in using a VCR for a convenience thing. I just think the financial side of it is completely unjust. VCRs were never cheaper than DVD recorders are now and as I said you can buy a stack of disks for a fraction of how much tapes used to cost. HDD is indeed the way to go.

20 Dec 2010, 19:34	#14
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Tapes, arguably though, have better quality

20 Dec 2010, 19:40	#15
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Argue that fact then.

20 Dec 2010, 22:17	#18
daveake 200% is the new 110% Join Date: 13.03.2005 Location: Newbury Posts: 2,983	That's what I've done too. All the VHS tapes got copied to DVD and then, aside from a few "keepers", got dumped.

21 Dec 2010, 10:10	#22
daveake 200% is the new 110% Join Date: 13.03.2005 Location: Newbury Posts: 2,983	VHS is old but was never actually good. Even when it came out it was eclipsed technically by Betamax and that Phillips system. If you have a DVD recorder it's very easy to copy VHS to DVD. Or a video capture device on a PC will do the job. Then the bulky old tapes can get dumped in a landfill somewhere. We sold a load at car boot sales but these days they're almost unsellable.

21 Dec 2010, 11:08	#24
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	As long as it's not a VHS tape with the original 27 minute Surf's Up music video on it and when you play it backwards you get an unheard live version of Meat performing Renegade Angel with Jim Steinman playing Tuba with his toes.

21 Dec 2010, 11:28	#25
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	You have that tape too? And there I was thinking my collection was superior!