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Old 08 Nov 2006, 17:41   #1
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Default Question - Recording Studio Mixing - can anyone help ??

I was wondering, if you saw Meat Loaf Classic Albums, you would of seen him, at the mixer in the studio, taking of vocals and other instruments. Does anyone know how he did it ??? I am really interested and I annot seem to figure out how he did it.

Plus if you can do that, what equipment do you need and/or can you do it on some kind of pc software and if so, do you know what programme it is.


Can anyone of you help me, I don't know, if you have been in a recording studio beofre, you might be able to help me out.

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Old 08 Nov 2006, 18:04   #2
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He was able to do it because he had multi-track master tapes and a studio mixer at hand. During the recording process, each instrument, or 'group' of instruments, are recorded on a separate track. When the album is mastered, it is condensed down to just two tracks (left and right). Unless you have the multi-track masters, you will not be able to effectively remove any of the individual instruments or voices. There are PC programs available which claim to remove lead vocals, but they're not much cop. They just remove anything that is panned to the centre of the stereo spectrum (ie equal left and right) and remove that. This works for vocals most of the time, because they are (usually) in mono, and usually panned dead centre, however this is not always the case, and any instruments that are panned centre will be diminished as well. Also, vocals tend to have additional effects added, for instance echo and/or reverbs. Now, these tend to be in stereo, which means that they can often have different characteristics from either left or right speaker, hence the PC program will not eliminate them . What you have then is the 'ghost' of the vocal left over, which is not sonically pleasant!

Sorry for the long-winded response, but you did ask.
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Old 08 Nov 2006, 18:06   #3
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Google is your friend ...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ecording&meta=

The wikipedia entry will probably tell you all you need to know ...
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Old 08 Nov 2006, 18:12   #4
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thanks both of you
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Old 08 Nov 2006, 22:53   #5
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He was able to do it because he had multi-track master tapes and a studio mixer at hand. During the recording process, each instrument, or 'group' of instruments, are recorded on a separate track. When the album is mastered, it is condensed down to just two tracks (left and right). Unless you have the multi-track masters, you will not be able to effectively remove any of the individual instruments or voices. There are PC programs available which claim to remove lead vocals, but they're not much cop. They just remove anything that is panned to the centre of the stereo spectrum (ie equal left and right) and remove that. This works for vocals most of the time, because they are (usually) in mono, and usually panned dead centre, however this is not always the case, and any instruments that are panned centre will be diminished as well. Also, vocals tend to have additional effects added, for instance echo and/or reverbs. Now, these tend to be in stereo, which means that they can often have different characteristics from either left or right speaker, hence the PC program will not eliminate them . What you have then is the 'ghost' of the vocal left over, which is not sonically pleasant!

Sorry for the long-winded response, but you did ask.
wow i thought i knew a thing or two but you taught me a couple of new things there
And people call me a smart arse
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Old 09 Nov 2006, 19:52   #6
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wow i thought i knew a thing or two but you taught me a couple of new things there
And people call me a smart arse
I always wanted to be a sound engineer, even did a few courses on the subject. And now I do all my own live sound for the shows, so you could say I know a thing or two
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