Bat Out Of Hell The Musical

[eltmatt]

It Just wont quit would be great, I'd also love Total Eclipse, Objects & Frying Pan :D

[letsgotoofar]

Total Eclipse has already been used in another show of Jim's (not, as TWG pointed out, like that would stop him from using it, foolhardy as I think that would be).

[Danny L]

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More confirmed tracks:

ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH (yessssssss!)
OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR (well done letsgotoofar!)
LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK

[letsgotoofar]

OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR (well done letsgotoofar!)

You don't know how sad I am to be right about that, but yeah, I'm not shocked. :-P

[Danny L]

You don't know how sad I am to be right about that, but yeah, I'm not shocked. :-P

Well that and The Endless Appetite are technically different songs, with completely different choruses

[ashkent7]

I could be wrong, but I expected pretty much all of Bat and Bat 2 to be included in some form, so up to now what has been confirmed how I would have imagined it.

I would think the rest will be from the remaining Bat/Bat 2 songs (Frying Pan, Just Won't Quit, Lost Boys, All Revved Up, Heaven Can Wait, Everything Louder)

And based on the original website I am still expecting a couple more non Meat songs.

Oh and Love And Death And An American Guitar (Wasted Youth - whichever you prefer) is clearly in there as well.

[letsgotoofar]

Well that and The Endless Appetite are technically different songs, with completely different choruses

Completely different choruses, intro, and ending are the only actual differences; the rest are substantially the same song, and if Bat is a success, then the chances of Tanz coming back in English are likely hurt by the elephant in the room that is Jim's recycling.

But, having said that, we'll wait and see.

[Danny L]

Surely HEAVEN CAN WAIT and ALL REVVED UP have to be in to make the whole of Bat 1? I can understand stuff being left off Bat 2, that was longer, plus we have All Comin Back, two from BTWA then the two 'new' songs

[letsgotoofar]

Well, if memory serves, although we've been told that things have changed, Jim once said on his old blog that there would be 15 songs from Bat I & II (which suggests, to me, all 7 on the first one and 8 from the second) in addition to 3 new ones.

So far, that's one thing that hasn't changed all that much -- we are now hearing there are 17 songs total in the show, 2 of which are new (or "new," depending on what fandom you're in), and we've already identified 15 (16 if you count "Wasted Youth," but I consider that dialogue). I don't think we've got far to go.

So far, the song count (excerpted from Danny's posts) is:

Bat I: BAT OUT OF HELL, TOOK THE WORDS, TWO OUTTA THREE, PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Dead Ringer: DEAD RINGER FOR LOVE
Bat II: ANYTHING FOR LOVE, LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK, ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH, OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR
Bat III: IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW
Braver: WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG, SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Miscellaneous / New: NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE, WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST

[Danny L]

oh my lord I was about to divide them like that :P

[Adje]

Just for the record. They are not Bat 1, Bat2, Bat3 or Braver songs. They are Jim Steinman songs, which is a rather big difference.

[Danny L]

Just for the record. They are not Bat 1, Bat2, Bat3 or Braver songs. They are Jim Steinman songs, which is a rather big difference.

So so true - practically all were written with this storyline in mind - this will be their true home!

[letsgotoofar]

Just for the record. They are not Bat 1, Bat2, Bat3 or Braver songs. They are Jim Steinman songs, which is a rather big difference.

This is how Meat fans will identify them. It's called "playing to my audience." ;)

[Adje]

This is how Meat fans will identify them. It's called "playing to my audience." ;)

Oh I didn't mean anything negative about it but the Bat, deadringer songs etc. are Meat Loaf songs written by Jim Steinman.

The musical songs have basically nothing to do with the Meat Loaf songs. They are Jim Steinman songs. I am sure with some different arrangements, different performance etc.

But I don't think the Meat Loaf 'fans' identify them this way. I think the fans are well aware of the difference. It's more for the non-fans that know the songs or perhaps the albums that will identify them this way. Not sure any of them visit this board though ;)

[letsgotoofar]

Either way, we've figured out 15 out of 17. Roll on the other two!

[Danny L]

If they want to make this successful they need to cater to far more than the fanbase! And that's a very good thing:-

General rock and musical theatre fans, people who want a good night out and fans of shows such as We Will Rock You will come and see Bat, the songs will be exposed to a brand new audience. They will live on through productions of this show

I only got into Queen after seeing WWRY, buying The Platimum Collection.

As a Meat/Jim fan, and a musical theatre fan in general, I'm so excited for the new arrangements etc., and to see what context the songs will take in the story. I've wanted this for a long long time

Thisis a new beginning for Steinman's work, some of his most known tracks.

[letsgotoofar]

My guess is "All Revved Up" and "Heaven Can Wait" -- those are the only two I have known to be in the show before that make sense.

[duke knooby]

No we're still the children or the future ain't what it used to be then?

[Danny L]

My guess is "All Revved Up" and "Heaven Can Wait" -- those are the only two I have known to be in the show before that make sense.

They complete the lineup for Bat1 plus they were in Neverland!

[ashkent7]

No we're still the children or the future ain't what it used to be then?

Definitely no Still The Children or i would have thought they would have included it in the "not released" songs. And I wonder if it's use in the Wuthering Heights tv thing would mean no future.

[letsgotoofar]

Definitely no Still The Children or i would have thought they would have included it in the "not released" songs. And I wonder if it's use in the Wuthering Heights tv thing would mean no future.

Most of "Objects" appearing in Tanz didn't mean no "Objects"... who knows?

[proctorloaf]

Amazing Manchester launch today -
Speech by Tony Smith (Manager for Pink Floyd) one of the producers
Meat Loaf spoke for ages and he was on fine form
The cast performed brilliantly Deadringer, 2outof3, then a phenomenal Bat out of Hell. You have to hear Andrew in person, he's amazing!!!

Make sure you book!

[duke knooby]

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/meat-loaf-bat-musical-collapse--12142051?service=responsive

[ThatWriterGuy]

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[eltmatt]

Hope the keyboard player learns the Bat intro riff properly before opening day :p

[ThatWriterGuy]

What you won't get on opening day: The above video. It's the bare bones only, folks :cool:

[letsgotoofar]

Song update!

Meat Loaf confirms the presence of IT JUST WON'T QUIT in the show on Radio 2 this afternoon.

That puts the standings at:

Bat I: BAT OUT OF HELL, TOOK THE WORDS, TWO OUTTA THREE, PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Dead Ringer: DEAD RINGER FOR LOVE
Bat II: ANYTHING FOR LOVE, LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK, ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH, IT JUST WON'T QUIT, OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR
Bat III: IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW
Braver: WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG, SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Miscellaneous / New: NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE, WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST

Only one left to discover!

[Roger]

I count 3 left

I wish:

I'm gonna love her for both of us
Land of the pig
Only when i feel/break it

or Bad for good or all reved up with no place to go or out of the frying pan or lost boys and golden girls

[Michael Marxen]

Hopefully Frying Pan!

Apart from really rocking it could fit the story.

[letsgotoofar]

I count 3 left

How? Every press release says there are 17; we've found 16.

[Roger]

How? Every press release says there are 17; we've found 16.

I read somewhere that the musical includes 17 Meat Loaf songs and 2 or 3 previously unreleased songs.

[Roger]

I read somewhere that the musical includes 17 Meat Loaf songs and 2 or 3 previously unreleased songs.


According to batoutofhellmusical.com: the musical contains 20 songs
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BAT OUT OF HELL is a breathtaking new musical that features 17 of Meat Loaf's greatest hits including I’d Do Anything for Love, Paradise by the Dashboard Light, You Took the Words Right Out of My Mouth (Hot Summer Night), Dead Ringer For Love, Two Out of Three Ain’t Bad, Bat Out of Hell and three new Jim Steinman originals written for the show.

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[ThatWriterGuy]

I count 3 left

I wish:

I'm gonna love her for both of us
Land of the pig
Only when i feel/break it

or Bad for good or all reved up with no place to go or out of the frying pan or lost boys and golden girls

At the time of writing, AT LEAST one of the above is correct (maybe two).

[samurai7]

Surely Bad for Good, Lost Boys & Golden Girls and All Revved Up will be there? I mean they were written for it, no?

[nightinr]

I'm really concerned that this musical may lack popular appeal. Ticket sales for Manchester have been terrible....partly due to ridiculous admission prices.

I am also surprised that Steinman hasn't included Total Eclipse of the heart, Holding Out for a hero, No matter what etc to add to its mainstream appeal.

Meat Loaf is not popular with young people anymore unfortunately. The average guy on the street is lucky if he can name three of Meat's songs.

[ThatWriterGuy]

I'm really concerned that this musical may lack popular appeal.


Don't be ;)

Ticket sales for Manchester have been terrible....partly due to ridiculous admission prices.


The BAT tickets are - on the whole - less expensive than Bowie's 'Lazarus', which has just started its London run at King's Cross.


Meat Loaf is not popular with young people anymore unfortunately. The average guy on the street is lucky if he can name three of Meat's songs.

You could've said that about Queen ten years ago - relatively speaking - and yet WWRY was and is huge. I'd worry less about Meat's perceived 'popularity', and concentrate on the musical as an entity of its own :cool:

[Danny L]

Don't be ;)



You could've said that about Queen ten years ago, too - relatively speaking - and yet WWRY was and is huge. I'd worry less about Meat's perceived 'popularity', and concentrate on the musical as entity of its own (once you've seen it).

WWRY got me into Queen

[letsgotoofar]

I am also surprised that Steinman hasn't included Total Eclipse of the heart, Holding Out for a hero, No matter what etc to add to its mainstream appeal.

Literally all three are already in successful musicals; in order of completion, "No Matter What" was in Whistle Down the Wind, "Total Eclipse of the Heart" was in Tanz der Vampire, and "Holding Out for a Hero" was in the stage version of Footloose. (Having said that, it didn't stop Jim from claiming the bulk of a song that was already in Tanz, but it's safe to say anything he co-wrote ["No Matter What" with Andrew Lloyd Webber, "Hero" with Dean Pitchford] is harder to claim.)

[Danny L]

Hopefully Frying Pan

[PanicLord]

Booked in Manchester for March 9th 😀😀😀

[ashkent7]

Yes I still count 3 to be named (as there has only been 14 of Meat's songs so far.)

I think Pig could be one with it not appearing the Batman the musical and probably would be sung by Falco for my money.

If there are 3 "new" tracks, I would have thought they would have announced all three at the same time. The thing is I can't actually think of a third that hasn't been floating around with the exception of Graveyard Shift and Wonderful Toys which i think are too Batman orientated unless there has been a lot of rewriting. So just have to wait and see on that one.

Of the other Meat ones I would still expect the rest of Bat to be completed.

[CarylB]

....partly due to ridiculous admission prices.
You are joking? They seem extremely reasonable to me compared to many provincial theatres

Meat Loaf is not popular with young people anymore unfortunately. The average guy on the street is lucky if he can name three of Meat's songs.

Well Meat Loaf isn't in it ;) But if these young people have heard just a couple of Jim Steinmans songs they will know the calibre of the work .. and probably will know a couple more songs than any other new musical they go to ;) One might know the style to expect but not the songs in any new Webber musical.

With a seemingly young and vibrant cast, and rock opera songs that have consistently drawn audiences from ages 7 to 70 when Meat has toured, I'd think they have covered the bases pretty well!

[Wario]

Im actually surprised at the amount of enthusiasm about this.

I personally cannot wait, but its interesting to see people who used to think only Meat can do these songs, support this.

Or is it just cause Meat has endorsed it and promoted it and Jims producing it? If thats the case, thats just wrong.

I guarantee if meat didnt promote it this, this would be met with more trepidation by the non-Steinman diehards (yes, theirs a split in this community that splits between Jim and Meat). Not dissimilar to the whole tribute discussions.

It was a VERY smart move to have Meat come out and do a press tour.

Dream Engine back in 2006 wasnt as universally supported and was even classified as a tribute show (which isn't an insult) by some. I was a learker once and I remember. Guess why? Meat wasnt involved.

All im hoping for is It Just Won't Quit. a mass audience needs to be exposed to that one.

Im glad at least something like this is getting (almost) universally supported.
Cannot wait for the broadway version to hit.

And I hope this musical begins to mend this split in the fan community that absolutely sucks.

Team MLUKFC and Team Rockman need to be merged. honestly. If everyone from rockman comes here and theres a Jim subforum our community would be so strong. Right now its not.

[Adje]

Or is it just cause Meat has endorsed it and promoted it and Jims producing it? If thats the case, thats just wrong.

Nope.

There actually isn't a 'wrong' reason to be enthusiastic or not enthusiastic about the play. Whatever reason you have is the right decision for you. ;)

[CarylB]

I personally cannot wait, but its interesting to see people who used to think only Meat can do these songs, support this.
For some of us Meat is irrevocably engineered into the songs; this doesn't mean to say we'd not support it, be interested, and want it to succeed.

I guarantee if meat didnt promote it this, this would be met with more trepidation by the non-Steinman diehards

You'd guarantee this? What's that saying? .. a fool and his money are soon parted ;) You really give Meat's fans little credit.

It was a VERY smart move to have Meat come out and do a press tour.
A move you'd expect from any professional production company given Meat's standing in the UK, his close association with the Bat brand, and because he is the performer who's kept the songs alive here for 4 decades. Something he was clearly delighted and moved to do, and to publicly hand the mantle to Andrew.

And I hope this musical begins to mend this split in the fan community that absolutely sucks.

Team MLUKFC and Team Rockman need to be merged. honestly. If everyone from rockman comes here and theres a Jim subforum our community would be so strong. Right now its not.

In my view it doesn't, and they don't need to be. Members here who want to be part of Rockman already are, and vice versa. This has always been the Meat Loaf UK Fanclub, that has been Jim's. To even suggest dragging Jim's official site here as a sub-forum would be impertinent, and reminiscent of the issue with the original BOOH album cover.

[rockfenris2005]

Jim's music is like Shakespeare to me. Meat owned what he did the way Olivier owned Richard III. In 300 years from now, there'll be other legends.

[stretch37]

Waiting on bootlegs

#sarcasm

[eltmatt]

I'm hoping for Frying Pan

[ThatWriterGuy]

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[AndrewG]

I'm really concerned that this musical may lack popular appeal. Ticket sales for Manchester have been terrible....partly due to ridiculous admission prices.


Wasn't the musical supposed to move to London later next year? Is the earlier move perhaps an indication of poor sales in Manchester?

I'm a bit apprehensive about this musical to be honest. I will probably go at some point. But the story sounds like Shrek. I hope there is a bit more to it because beyond gimmicks and good songs I ultimately think the story is really centrepiece. These days I like the fact that musical writers have been a bit more daring to look beyond the simple guy rescuing a girl and match made in heaven as the main driving force love story (see Wicked & Frozen).

Nevertheless I am very impressed the musical is happening after all this time and it is coming together. Hope it will be successful and of course very good.

[ThatWriterGuy]

Wasn't the musical supposed to move to London later next year? Is the earlier move perhaps an indication of poor sales in Manchester?

Not in the slightest. Manchester is pretty much the test run, and there will be significant changes between both runs. The date shift is down to logistics only, which - as is my understanding - has nothing to do with sales.

I'm a bit apprehensive about this musical to be honest. I will probably go at some point. But the story sounds like Shrek.

No, it doesn't. Maybe the PLOT sounds like Shrek (to you), but there are only 7 basic plots that encompass everything you've ever seen or read before. So, go figure :roll:

I hope there is a bit more to it because beyond gimmicks and good songs I ultimately think the story is really centrepiece. These days I like the fact that musical writers have been a bit more daring to look beyond the simple guy rescuing a girl and match made in heaven as the main driving force love story (see Wicked & Frozen).

How's totalitarianism, an epic battle between 'good and evil', and a commentary on the widening gulf of alienation between social generations strike you?

Because that's just the beginning.

:cool:

NOTE: Whoever is taking my posts and copying them onto FB (and other places) -- please don't. I drop this information for THIS community only. If I see it again -- I'll stop and I won't post here (which would be a shame, as we're rapidly approaching a time where I CAN divulge some of the things I've been working on. I'm not supposed to do this until AFTER the musical has come out and everybody has seen it, so -- CAN IT! Okay?).

[Adje]

NOTE: Whoever is taking my posts and copying them onto FB (and other places) -- please don't. I drop this information for THIS community only. If I see it again -- I'll stop and I won't post here Okay?).

I just copied your post all over my fb. And my wife's fb, and my 2nd account fb and my third account fb (that I only created to copy this) and accounts of people I had the fb password off.

You should have told me earlier it would be this easy...

:twisted::lol::-P

[ThatWriterGuy]

I just copied your post all over my fb. And my wife's fb, and my 2nd account fb and my third account fb (that I only created to copy this) and accounts of people I had the fb password off.

You should have told me earlier it would be this easy...

:twisted::lol::-P

Never a problem, Adje! And besides, I just returned the favour and forwarded Meat your Youtube channel and your website, and all of those other little outlets you have containing your vast archive of illegal bootleg recordings, and suggested that he 'administer extreme action' (read: 'shut them down') ;)

P.S. These replies -- which used to be quite amusing -- are tiresome, and getting old.
Quit while you're ahead.

[Adje]

P.S. These replies -- which used to be quite amusing -- are tiresome, and getting old.
Quit while you're ahead.

I wish I could. But okay, on a serious note, you're complaint makes not much sense (to me)

You post in an area were unregistered visitors can also see. Basically it's an open board and claiming it's something that should stay on here is quite naieve (and even a bit hypocritical).

In all honesty, if you want to share something that is not going to leave this place, you should consider PM-ing people or just accept that this is the world wide web ;) If people see newsworth in your post you can count on it they are going to re-post it.

[nightinr]

I'm with Adje on this one. If you dont want people to know don't post it.

As for threatening Adje with action re his fantastic YouTube channel that is appreciated by many - please grow up!!!

[ThatWriterGuy]

As for threatening Adje with action re his fantastic YouTube channel that is appreciated by many - please grow up!!!

That was a joke :roll: (just like your comment above).

You post in an area were unregistered visitors can also see. Basically it's an open board and claiming it's something that should stay on here is quite naieve (and even a bit hypocritical).

It isn't hypocritical -- I've never posted anything from this site on any other form of social media to date (in fact, I don't even use any other form of social media personally).

In all honesty, if you want to share something that is not going to leave this place, you should consider PM-ing people or just accept that this is the world wide web ;) If people see newsworth in your post you can count on it they are going to re-post it.

I do take your point on 'sharing' and the nature of some of those who post on this forum (and it did come from a regular poster). I guess it teaches me for trying to share some of this stuff. As such, I don't have the time for this draining and frankly incredibly tedious game of rhetoric. It makes it incredibly hard for me to contribute to this forum. So I'm going to have to say that: ]"this will be my last post here for quite some time"[/B] .

I know it's a game of 'bait the bear', 'see who can get an inflammatory response from trollish comments' to you, Adje -- which is why I don't reply for the majority of the time, because it's so transparent that it just becomes tedious -- but for me this is my career, and there's slightly more at stake than killing some time on the Internet by acting like a child. I just don't have the time or the drive for it right now. But hey, I know I won't lose any sleep over it.

It's a shame in a lot of ways, because it spoils it for those who actually do care about this musical and are interested in the creative side of how it all came together (among other things). I've enjoyed talking with those people the past few months, and I look forward to seeing you at the show.

Hopefully I'll catch some of you in Manchester/London in 2017 (except for Adje ... who isn't interested in the show yet constantly posts in this thread anyway).

Peace out :cool:

[Adje]

It isn't hypocritical -- I've never posted anything from this site on any other form of social media to date (in fact, I don't even use any other form of social media personally).
I actully meant, having inside info, sharing it here and don't want it to go out ;-)



I do take your point on 'sharing' and the nature of some of those who post on this forum (and it did come from a regular poster). I guess it teaches me for trying to share some of this stuff. As such, I don't have the time for this draining and frankly incredibly tedious game of rhetoric, so I'm going to have to say that: ]"this will be my last post here for quite some time"[/B] . There you go, it's even in quotation marks for dramatic effect :roll:
Tbh, I don't understand your dramatic decision. But it's not up to me anyway


I know it's a game or 'bait the bear', 'see who can get an inflammatory response from trollish comments' to you, Adje -- which is why I don't reply for the majority of the time, because it's so transparent that it just becomes tedious -- but for me this is my career, and there's slightly more at stake than killing some time on the Internet by acting like a child. I just don't have the time or the drive for it right now. But hey, I know I won't lose any sleep over it.
Well you know me and thus I am sure you know I don't intend to troll you. They are meant as friendly stabs. Didn't know you took it that seriously until your earlier post. I don't intend to annoy you man. That said, it is your career but you go to a place where people are free to put their thought on it. Again, yes I think the musical is not going to work. But most of my responses should be taken with a pinch of salt. My way of trying to humor you, because I do know that the musical is a big deal to you. So basically I try to cut the edges a bit. I thought you'd knew this.


It's a shame in a lot of ways, because it spoils it for those who actually do care about this musical and are interested in the creative side of how it all came together (among other things). I've enjoyed talking with those people the past few months, and I look forward to seeing you at the show.

Hopefully I'll catch some of you in Manchester/London in 2017 (except for Adje ... who isn't interested in the show yet constantly posts in this thread anyway).

Peace out :cool:
Again, you knew from the start you'd not only get the yay- sayers here. But if it means that much to you, keep posting for the people that are interested. I won't respond to your posts again, in any form.

But one last stab because your last remark asked for it (and I hope you can see the humor in it)
You probbably catch them all in Manchester. Not me as you said, but I bet it shouldn't be hard to personally welcome the 20+ people that are actually going.

That said, and I do mean this. I am happy you do something you are passionate about. And I am happy it works for you. Just like Wario, who says to get heat for his performances. So what. You managed to (I assume) make a job out of your hobby and do what you really want. And I salute you for that, man. I hope this will be the start of much more for you ;) :cool:

[letsgotoofar]

Normally I would understand, TWG, especially knowing each other as we do, but I must say, while I disagree with his tone (which, in spite of his explanation, can seem off at times) and his misgivings about the show (though I admit I am not the most confident about its prospects myself), Adje's got a point, in that:

There are many sections of MLUKFC that are off-limits to unregistered guests, but this forum and this thread are not one of them. Anybody -- be they Meat fans, Jim fans, fans of both, or people who wandered in because they wanted to know more about Fred :-P -- can come here, read it, and post it in other places, and they don't even necessarily have to be members of the forum (which is why advising people who are members of MLUKFC not to share information in other places, at least in this particular instance, is kind of a waste of breath). (To my knowledge, the person who posted the information is not a regular poster here, or at least not that I'm aware of. I did comment on it when they shared the info, if that may be the source of confusion.)

If you want to keep information from leaking, then the best way to do that is to do just that -- say nothing, or at least say nothing publicly. (Which is something I have learned at my peril, even though the entertainment industry is full of announcements about projects, or aspects thereof, that never came to be; witness tons of stuff in Jim's career as an example.) But if your enthusiasm is going to outweigh your ability to do that, then you have to accept the fact that if you post this information in an area of the forum that anyone can access, anyone can (and will) share the information elsewhere. (Hell, people are just as casual about stuff in members-only sections of the forum as we learned recently with Meat's post a while back in the Braver forum, so this shouldn't be that surprising.)

While I wish you wouldn't go, if you understand all this and still wish not to post, I do understand.

[stretch37]

Normally I would understand, TWG, especially knowing each other as we do, but I must say, while I disagree with his tone (which, in spite of his explanation, can seem off at times) and his misgivings about the show (though I admit I am not the most confident about its prospects myself), Adje's got a point, in that:

There are many sections of MLUKFC that are off-limits to unregistered guests, but this forum and this thread are not one of them. Anybody -- be they Meat fans, Jim fans, fans of both, or people who wandered in because they wanted to know more about Fred :-P -- can come here, read it, and post it in other places, and they don't even necessarily have to be members of the forum (which is why advising people who are members of MLUKFC not to share information in other places, at least in this particular instance, is kind of a waste of breath). (To my knowledge, the person who posted the information is not a regular poster here, or at least not that I'm aware of. I did comment on it when they shared the info, if that may be the source of confusion.)

If you want to keep information from leaking, then the best way to do that is to do just that -- say nothing, or at least say nothing publicly. (Which is something I have learned at my peril, even though the entertainment industry is full of announcements about projects, or aspects thereof, that never came to be; witness tons of stuff in Jim's career as an example.) But if your enthusiasm is going to outweigh your ability to do that, then you have to accept the fact that if you post this information in an area of the forum that anyone can access, anyone can (and will) share the information elsewhere. (Hell, people are just as casual about stuff in members-only sections of the forum as we learned recently with Meat's post a while back in the Braver forum, so this shouldn't be that surprising.)

While I wish you wouldn't go, if you understand all this and still wish not to post, I do understand.

Honestly, those that have been here for awhile probably feel like this place is a tad more than "Just another place on the Internet". Fact is, much of what used to be said here would stay here. Meat would even come here and tell us things that he didn't want others to know yet.

If TWG is willing to share something, it means this place is somewhat special to him. I wouldn't take offense to that. Either agree to honor the ethical rule he's politely asking you to follow, or say you're unwilling. Everybody deserves to have healthy boundaries, we're all adults here and we can all decide what we're willing to do to compromise. Sorry if that sounds a bit cold to Adje - After all, we all find certain websites with up-to-date Meat Loaf information quite useful and exciting - but it wasn't meant that way. Perhaps some sort of a delay before reporting, agreed upon with TWG?

[eltmatt]

This all seems rather over the top, I don't see the point in sharing anything from here. I am interested in the creative side of the musical.

[CarylB]

If you want to keep information from leaking, then the best way to do that is to do just that -- say nothing, or at least say nothing publicly.

Truth right there. Always was, and with the advent of the internet never more so. I have a handful of very close friends who can keep a secret .. beyond that you are into the realms of a secret being something you tell everyone in confidence ;)

I am reminded of the old exchange in reply to a question from another ..
"Can you keep a secret?"
"Yes, absolutely!"
"So can I" ..... end of conversation ;)

[ashkent7]

So Everything Louder and All Revved Up are both in the musical as one song.

[Wario]

So Everything Louder and All Revved Up are both in the musical as one song.

interesting... thats clever both musically and thematically.

a horny teenager (revved) and a pothead (louder).

am i the only one who listens to Louder and thinks its a pothead giving a middle figure to authoritah.

[letsgotoofar]

So Everything Louder and All Revved Up are both in the musical as one song.

I believe this is an assumption based on an old demo which recently surfaced that may not reflect the current reality. While it may very well be possible, we don't know that for sure, so I wouldn't commit to that thought.

[Danny L]

Rehearsals start TOMORROW! It's happening...

[ashkent7]

I believe this is an assumption based on an old demo which recently surfaced that may not reflect the current reality. While it may very well be possible, we don't know that for sure, so I wouldn't commit to that thought.

Jim confirmed that the demo (which was originally for the previous Bat incarnation) is the arrangement that is the Bat Musical.

[letsgotoofar]

Is it in one of those Facebook threads of comments that I can't be arsed to look through with any degree of depth? That's probably why I missed it.

[ashkent7]

Is it in one of those Facebook threads of comments that I can't be arsed to look through with any degree of depth? That's probably why I missed it.

Ha. Yes it was.

[AndrewG]

Jim's Facebook is a nightmare with Pat Cessaro tagging him every 2 seconds.

[letsgotoofar]

To add something vaguely relevant, here is a demo mock-up of what the new "All Revved Up Louder Than Everything Else" (as I call it) may sound like in the musical:

qtefNSowE_8

[Danny L]

I love Meat but I'd take out the bit from Everything Louder.

Too jarring otherwise I lvoe the new lyrics

[loaferman61]

Jim's Facebook is a nightmare with Pat Cessaro tagging him every 2 seconds.

LOL. I seldom look at Jim's Facebook but I have noticed that too.

[letsgotoofar]

I love Meat but I'd take out the bit from Everything Louder.

Too jarring otherwise I lvoe the new lyrics

Well, it's important to note that you're only hearing a demo there. The full version may be better orchestrated, it may seem more organic than being cut and paste together as it was here. Think of it as a paint-by-numbers canvas without all the colors in. It may look better once you see the painting.

[Danny L]

True true

https://twitter.com/BatTheMusical/status/812251677990551552

Looks like 'Revved Up Neverland' is confirmed

[Danny L]

Just over 6 weeks to go.

And there's talk of Meat recording BODY for the soundtrack

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

i think that meat loaf and jim should do a pre recored message for at the beginning of the show do some comedy thing asking audience members not to take any pics or video anything like they did at beginning of rock of ages they had david coverdale from white snake make the announcement :) and same on the cast recording

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

got my 3rd set of tickets this week for the show for manchester taking advantage of it while its in my home city going on the 23rd feb ,14th march ,6th april

[Danny L]

got my 3rd set of tickets this week for the show for manchester taking advantage of it while its in my home city going on the 23rd feb ,14th march ,6th april

My plan is to hopefully book London for July towards the end of the run as well as 18th Feb in Mancs!!

[Danny L]

Rehearsal footage on Manchester TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=oCbK-omgewg&app=desktop

Also has Andrew Polec confirmed the whole BOOH album is in there? https://www.instagram.com/p/BPNtgMPBDSZ/

[ashkent7]

Also has Andrew Polec confirmed the whole BOOH album is in there? https://www.instagram.com/p/BPNtgMPBDSZ/

Thing is considering they have talked about narrative of the album meaning nothing has to be forced, and the fact Heaven Can Wait was in Jim's early musicals i don't think it was ever in doubt.

[Danny L]

Is that a full song list? If so cool, if not I'm crossing my fingers for Frying Pan

[ashkent7]

Is that a full song list? If so cool, if not I'm crossing my fingers for Frying Pan

Not sure if it could still be one short. However, i would also expect other pieces of familiar music from the songs not included as songs to worm their way in somewhere. :D

[Danny L]

Not sure if it could still be one short. However, i would also expect other pieces of familiar music from the songs not included as songs to worm their way in somewhere. :D

Jim does that. I just can't wait. So close...

One of the best things is we don't quite know what the whole thing will look or feel like yet, how the songs are used or in which order. There's so much still unknown about the show

[nightinr]

How are tickets sales going? I suspect the midweek Manchester dates will have to be heavily discounted to get bums on seats?

[Danny L]

How are tickets sales going? I suspect the midweek Manchester dates will have to be heavily discounted to get bums on seats?

THere's only a few single seats for the first few nights dotted around, clicked a random mid-March there are a few available but nothing close to an empty house - tickets look to be going well.

London also seems to be going Ok too

[letsgotoofar]

Is that a full song list? If so cool, if not I'm crossing my fingers for Frying Pan

...what song list? I see no list other than the ones we made.

[ThatWriterGuy]

Categorically no Frying Pan, sadly.
Manchester and the first few weeks in London are previews, in case anyone missed that.
See you there :cool:

[Danny L]

Categorically no Frying Pan, sadly.
Manchester and the first few weeks in London are previews, in case anyone missed that.
See you there :cool:

Ah well!

I'm considering popping down to London in July...

[nightinr]

Is there any songs from Bat 3 in the musical?

[Danny L]

it's All Coming Back To Me Now.

[nightinr]

it's All Coming Back To Me Now.

Thanks

[nightinr]

Do we know which Manchester show Meat is aiming to be at (if health allows)?

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

all i know is if you look on manchester opera house website and look on tuesday 14th march all the stalls are sold out and the circle is all so sold out and the only seats are available is in the gallery i saw this when it went on sale and wonded if that was press night. when i asked at the press launch in manchester i spoke to a lovely guy from the marking department and asked him why was that 14th march on a tuesday was nearly sold out and he said that they have held the stalls and the circle tickets back and only put on sale the gallery because it is likely to be the manchester press night hope that helps :)

[letsgotoofar]

Since Danny kindly reminded me what song list he was talking about...

Time to update the standings!

Bat I: BAT OUT OF HELL, TOOK THE WORDS, HEAVEN CAN WAIT, ALL REVVED UP (in new hybrid with EVERYTHING LOUDER), TWO OUTTA THREE, PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Dead Ringer: DEAD RINGER FOR LOVE
Bat II: ANYTHING FOR LOVE, LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK, ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH, IT JUST WON'T QUIT, OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, EVERYTHING LOUDER (in new hybrid with ALL REVVED UP)
Bat III: IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW
Braver: WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG, SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Miscellaneous / New: NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE, WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST

All totaled, and counting the hybrid as one track, we've uncovered a grand total of 18 songs so far.

[ThatWriterGuy]

Funnily enough, this arrangement of ALL REVVED UP/EVERYTHING LOUDER was the first cut that Jim sent me from the musical. That was almost two years ago now.

[letsgotoofar]

Give us a clue. How close are we? :-P He's got a lot of songs as it is just from our list, there's no way he can include that many without cuts, how close are we to finished?

[ThatWriterGuy]

'very close'. There's one track that I love that you DON'T have on your list...

[nightinr]

Just looked at ticket sales for Manchester. Saturday nights nearly full. Friday nights decent. During the week abysmal....theatre is virtually empty.

[ThatWriterGuy]

As already stated -- these are previews only. Mainstream advertising hasn't even started yet.

[samurai7]

'very close'. There's one track that I love that you DON'T have on your list...

Oooo tease!
Is it Lost Boys & Golden Girls? Or Bad For Good? Or even Surf's Up?

[proctorloaf]

In the UK most theatre bookers book seats within 2 weeks of when they want to go to the theatre. I don't understand why you're so bothered about how it's selling. There's no reviews, no one's seen the show, no one's heard how great the cast are yet. Once the videos and reviews are out people will start to book.

[nightinr]

Most theatre bookers in Manchester do not book within 2 weeks - they book well in advance. Manchester isn't a tourist city like London.

[letsgotoofar]

'very close'. There's one track that I love that you DON'T have on your list...

I'm guessing "Land of the Pig."

Jim's old blog entries, as you've already stated, aren't exactly what to go by, but they've mostly been right so far, which indicates to me that whatever Jim and others (such as Stuart Beattie) have done since then to the script, the shape of the score has never changed all that much.

With that in mind... on the old blog, Jim describes a scene in a factory where "Land of the Pig" is sung by corrupt taskmasters, leading into a worker's riot that includes "Life is a Lemon." Is anything like that still in the show? (Very timely if so, given the political climate in the States.)

[ThatWriterGuy]

I'm guessing "Land of the Pig."

Jim's old blog entries, as you've already stated, aren't exactly what to go by, but they've mostly been right so far, which indicates to me that whatever Jim and others (such as Stuart Beattie) have done since then to the script, the shape of the score has never changed all that much.

With that in mind... on the old blog, Jim describes a scene in a factory where "Land of the Pig" is sung by corrupt taskmasters, leading into a worker's riot that includes "Life is a Lemon." Is anything like that still in the show? (Very timely if so, given the political climate in the States.)

I couldn't possibly comment ... :cool:
On the plus side, you've only got three weeks to wait until all of your questions will be answered.

[ashkent7]

I think booking depends on a lot of things.

If an established production goes on tour, then it sells out pretty much instantly.

The thing to remember is what has already been said. No one - except people like us who live and breathe these songs - really knows much except there has been a couple of interviews done about it, Meat has mentioned it a few months back and there have been a couple of internet ads. Also, as popular as Bat is in the scope of its sales gathered over 40 years, Meat's music doesn't have the "songs that are played at weddings and parties" or "always on the radio" thing that led to the likes of Mamma Mia and We Will Rock You seeming to become instant hits (I have no idea how well they did on previews and initial release, hence saying "seeming to").

But then look at something like Tanz. Hardly known by anyone in the UK unless they know their Steinman or have a good knowledge of musicals or Steve Barton and yet it's had some great runs - DOTV, not so good for obvious reasons. So, for me, once it is out, reviewed and better known it will start to fly. Until then, those who want to see it will see it, the rest will follow in time.

[letsgotoofar]

I couldn't possibly comment ... :cool:

Okay, don't, but I will ask you this question:

Is "Land of the Pig" a song of Jim's that you love? ;)

[Danny L]

I couldn't possibly comment ... :cool:
On the plus side, you've only got three weeks to wait until all of your questions will be answered.

After the performance on the 18th expect me to write a review on my (much neglected) blog. Might be spoilers

[proctorloaf]

'Most theatre bookers in Manchester do not book within 2 weeks - they book well in advance. Manchester isn't a tourist city like London.'

SIMPLY NOT TRUE. I work in Arts Marketing (Theatre Marketing) in the North West of England and have worked on productions which have gone to the Palace and Opera House in Manchester. The majority of people book 2 weeks in advance.

Massive established blockbusters book well in advance but the main bulk of tickets are still booked within 2 weeks of the performance date.

[letsgotoofar]

'very close'. There's one track that I love that you DON'T have on your list...

Okay, new idea. Andrew Polec says on Twitter that there is another song from Dead Ringer in the show other than the title track. We just need to figure out what song TheDoode loves from DR... :twisted:

[lorenzoduke]

Okay, new idea. Andrew Polec says on Twitter that there is another song from Dead Ringer in the show other than the title track. We just need to figure out what song TheDoode loves from DR... :twisted:

My money would be on Everything Is Permitted.

[proctorloaf]

The venue has 10 titles displayed outside - looking forward to finding out the rest on the 17th!

[Danny L]

Between the end of the first performance and going up Norf will be hard for me with not reading the internet and spoilers!!

The song list top me is a spoiler even though I've kept a tab of what's confirmed :P

[letsgotoofar]

The woman playing Sloane just confirmed in a Facebook video that she sings a song from Bat II! (See below.) That brings the tally up to...

Bat I: BAT OUT OF HELL, TOOK THE WORDS, HEAVEN CAN WAIT, ALL REVVED UP (in new hybrid with EVERYTHING LOUDER), TWO OUTTA THREE, PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Dead Ringer: DEAD RINGER FOR LOVE, other unnamed song
Bat II: ANYTHING FOR LOVE, LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK, ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH, IT JUST WON'T QUIT, OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, EVERYTHING LOUDER (in new hybrid with ALL REVVED UP), GOOD GIRLS GO TO HEAVEN
Bat III: IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW
Braver: WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG, SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Miscellaneous / New: NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE, WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST

All totaled, and counting the hybrid as one track, we've uncovered a grand total of 19 songs (for certain, 20 if you count the unnamed DR track) so far.

[Danny L]

The woman playing Sloane just confirmed in a Facebook video that she sings a song from Bat II! (See below.) That brings the tally up to...

Bat I: BAT OUT OF HELL, TOOK THE WORDS, HEAVEN CAN WAIT, ALL REVVED UP (in new hybrid with EVERYTHING LOUDER), TWO OUTTA THREE, PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Dead Ringer: DEAD RINGER FOR LOVE, other unnamed song
Bat II: ANYTHING FOR LOVE, LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK, ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH, IT JUST WON'T QUIT, OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, EVERYTHING LOUDER (in new hybrid with ALL REVVED UP), GOOD GIRLS GO TO HEAVEN
Bat III: IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW
Braver: WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG, SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Miscellaneous / New: NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE, WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST

All totaled, and counting the hybrid as one track, we've uncovered a grand total of 19 songs (for certain, 20 if you count the unnamed DR track) so far.

Thanks, love all of these gonna be a crackin show! Next question is the running order and context in the story...

[stretch37]

I couldn't possibly comment ... :cool:
On the plus side, you've only got three weeks to wait until all of your questions will be answered.

Mr. Tease over here ;)

[Danny L]

Less than two weeks :) Not that I'm counting

[ashkent7]

My money would be on Everything Is Permitted.

I'd maybe plump for Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us

[besty]

I am still flabbergasted that Frying pan isn't in the show. There is quite simply no song more suited to being an act two opener than Frying pan.

[proctorloaf]

I can't wait to listen to the Tanz Dar Vampire and Bat out of Hell the musical soundtracks back to back!

[nightinr]

Is Steinman planning to come to Manchester?

[Danny L]

I am still flabbergasted that Frying pan isn't in the show. There is quite simply no song more suited to being an act two opener than Frying pan.

If they ever make a movie it'll probably get in. 'New' tracks are a thing with film adaptations ��

But saying that the show is already jam packed. A lot of massive songs, long songs. Meat has never dared try that many songs in a show. We're fans but I'd defy anyone to debate that!

Paradise and Objects are operas within themselves, the cast needs to look after themselves to manage the enormity!!

[ThatWriterGuy]

Is Steinman planning to come to Manchester?

No.

[ThatWriterGuy]

I am still flabbergasted that Frying pan isn't in the show. There is quite simply no song more suited to being an act two opener than Frying pan.

I didn't realise that you'd read the script?!?!?! ;)

[nightinr]

Is Steinman planning to come to London?

[ThatWriterGuy]

The woman playing Sloane just confirmed in a Facebook video that she sings a song from Bat II!

All totaled, and counting the hybrid as one track, we've uncovered a grand total of 19 songs (for certain, 20 if you count the unnamed DR track) so far.

Can't say anything at this point, but what you're missing definitely falls into 'latter career' territory.

I'm done here, again, for a while - incredibly busy - but hopefully see you all at some shows :cool:

[Danny L]

Will anyone else be there February 18th?

[PanicLord]

I sooo hope IGLHFBOU is in there... it's my favourite song!

[duke knooby]

Will anyone else be there February 18th?

I really hope so, but if not, at least you'll get a private, intimate performance :twisted:

[S_Caramella]

Falco (Rob Fowler) posted earlier on twitter that it's an honour to sing ... IN THE LAND OF THE PIG, THE BUTCHER IS KING :cool:

[Danny L]

I really hope so, but if not, at least you'll get a private, intimate performance :twisted:

lmao!!!

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

going off what i have heard in interviews and seen of the bat out of hell the musical interviews ect this is the list of numbers what i think are going to be in the show

Bat out of hell
you took the words
heave can wait
all revved up with no place to go
two out of three
paradise
for crying out load
dead ringer
its all comeing back
who needs the young
speaking in tongues
good girls go to heaven
I do anything for love
wasted youth
it just wont quit
what part of my body hurts the most
in the land of the pig the butcher is king

[Danny L]

going off what i have heard in interviews and seen of the bat out of hell the musical interviews ect this is the list of numbers what i think are going to be in the show

letsgotoofar has tallied up from what we know::

The woman playing Sloane just confirmed in a Facebook video that she sings a song from Bat II! (See below.) That brings the tally up to...

Bat I: BAT OUT OF HELL, TOOK THE WORDS, HEAVEN CAN WAIT, ALL REVVED UP (in new hybrid with EVERYTHING LOUDER), TWO OUTTA THREE, PARADISE BY THE DASHBOARD LIGHT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Dead Ringer: DEAD RINGER FOR LOVE, other unnamed song
Bat II: ANYTHING FOR LOVE, LIFE IS A LEMON AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK, ROCK N ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH, IT JUST WON'T QUIT, OBJECTS IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, EVERYTHING LOUDER (in new hybrid with ALL REVVED UP), GOOD GIRLS GO TO HEAVEN
Bat III: IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW, LAND OF THE PIG (THE BUTCHER IS KING)
Braver: WHO NEEDS THE YOUNG, SPEAKING IN TONGUES
Miscellaneous / New: NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE, WHAT PART OF MY BODY HURTS THE MOST

All totaled, and counting the hybrid as one track, we've uncovered a grand total of 19 songs (for certain, 20 if you count the unnamed DR track) so far.

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

thanks danny L :) thirs a lot there what i have missed could it be possible the un named DR track be more than you deserve ?

[proctorloaf]

Would you like me to share the set list on the 17th?

[LP]

Front row centre on the opening night...cannot wait for this! Nervous, excited anticipation.

[ashkent7]

Would you like me to share the set list on the 17th?

Maybe put it in it's own thread so anyone wanting to avoid seeing it can bypass it. Or at least pretend to until the curiosity is too much. :D

I'm there on 23rd March...I always tend to wait until a way into the run of anything to let them get all revved up.

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

press night has been confirmed its definitely 14th march i used to work for the ihg group holiday inn ect and their staff benefits had this scheme and i still get get pop ups on my facebook what i cant get rid and i don't work there anymore lol and this came up http://ihg-competition.com/batoutofhell/

[Danny L]

I know I said about SPOILERS, good idea to start a new thread; despite something like a 22hr wait between the end of Friday night's show and Saturday and if something is posted chances are I WILL open and read :-P

[Monstro]

I know I said about SPOILERS, good idea to start a new thread; despite something like a 22hr wait between the end of Friday night's show and Saturday and if something is posted chances are I WILL open and read :-P

I think a new thread with "Set List SPOILER" in the title is called for, gives people the choice then rather than by accident

[Danny L]

No I mean even if it's clearly labelled I'll read it out of curiosity.
I'm an info junkie :shock:

[eltmatt]

Can someone let us know what merchandise if any they are selling or take a pic? :p

[Danny L]

Can someone let us know what merchandise if any they are selling or take a pic? :p

I just asked that on twitter to the guy who is putting together material for the programe.

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

and a price list too so people can budget

[proctorloaf]

***SPOILER***

Rehearsal of For Crying Out Loud


I LOVE IT


http://www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/video-in-rehearsals-with-bat-out-of-hell-musical-meatloaf_42839.html?cid=homepage_news

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

major spoilers view if you want to this was on bat out of hell the musical facebook page the manchester evening news has done an artical about the backstage and they have taken some photos of the sets for me my opinion they shouldn't have posted it on the facebook yet until at least open night http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/gallery/go-behind-scenes-bat-out-12576620

[duke knooby]

major spoilers view if you want to this was on bat out of hell the musical facebook page the manchester evening news has done an artical about the backstage and they have taken some photos of the sets for me my opinion they shouldn't have posted it on the facebook yet until at least open night http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/gallery/go-behind-scenes-bat-out-12576620

But good that it's getting some press coverage!

[Danny L]

The shows getting a fair bit of press now. Like it!!

[ashkent7]

Well at least we know where Dead Ringer is going to be sung :)

[tonyloaf]

only going to London on opening night

[Danny L]

Well at least we know where Dead Ringer is going to be sung :)

On stage at the opera house/coliseum? 😉

Is there any word of where it's going after London? I thought it was an international tour?

[ThatWriterGuy]

On stage at the opera house/coliseum? 😉

Is there any word of where it's going after London? I thought it was an international tour?

Toronto!

[anotherday]

Toronto!

HOPEFULLY IT makes its way to broadway.

[Danny L]

Toronto!

of course! I know Meat is hoping to make an appearance should the show reach Broadway

[ThatWriterGuy]

HOPEFULLY IT makes its way to broadway.

It will. Right after Toronto.

[chansadres]

It will. Right after Toronto.
Is the European mainland still on the schedule? I thought they announced it in the audition ad.

[Danny L]

Do you have dates? Nothing official's been announced though I guess they want Mancs/London to be open before publicity, use footage from the actual show to promote?

[ThatWriterGuy]

Is the European mainland still on the schedule? I thought they announced it in the audition ad.

I'm not sure at the minute -- depends what happens on the creative front with previews, etc.

[LucyK!]

Very proud to be providing some of the official merch for the show...see some of you Friday :up:

[proctorloaf]

I'll be buying it all!

[loaferman61]

Are the albums (cast and various artists) a definite go? If so any ETA on them? I had read that Jim would have 4 albums this year (Tyce, Karine, cast, and various artists).

[roomster]

Different songs, including What part of my body hurts the most! :D

itrgjkhveKI

[anotherday]

Are the albums (cast and various artists) a definite go? If so any ETA on them? I had read that Jim would have 4 albums this year (Tyce, Karine, cast, and various artists).

Was wondering the same.

[letsgotoofar]

As per Facebook announcements, Tyce's and Karine's are both ready to go. Tyce's release date is the same as reported; Karine's has been moved forward to March 4 rather than the originally projected February release. No word on a cast album or related various artists compilation as yet.

[duke knooby]

Different songs, including What part of my body hurts the most! :D

itrgjkhveKI

gives me flashbacks of steinmans bad for good video with the bat clip

[Danny L]

Very proud to be providing some of the official merch for the show...see some of you Friday :up:

What type of merch are you supplying?

[Wario]

gives me flashbacks of steinmans bad for good video with the bat clip

not a good sign.

[Monstro]

Very proud to be providing some of the official merch for the show...see some of you Friday :up:

I'll be buying it all!


I'm having an insiders knowledge giggle lol

[eltmatt]

*confused* I wanna see pics of the merch

[LucyK!]

To be fair I've seen the full mercy collection and it's pretty good....limited range but nicely done

[proctorloaf]

SO EXCITED FOR TOMORROW!

[Danny L]

To be fair I've seen the full mercy collection and it's pretty good....limited range but nicely done

??????????

[LucyK!]

Typo - full merch collection

[Danny L]

Mah I mean what are we getting - programs, t shirts, jackets, books, keyrings, CDS???

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

i need to know what mearch and prices because i need to budget my money:)

[Monstro]

To be fair I've seen the full mercy collection and it's pretty good....limited range but nicely done

That's normal for a stage show, We Will Rock You had their merch grow as their residency in London grew but shows that are in situ for a shorter time don't tend to have that much of a range.

Just the CD's for me please, looking forward to the soundtracks

[lorenzoduke]

Long shot but if anyone wants to trade 2 London tickets (i.e. the ones I have) for 2 Manchester ones, hit me with a PM.

[anotherday]

Anyone know when the soundtracks will hit?

[nightinr]

Ticket sales are very poor for the Manchester shows. During the week it is practically empty.

Ticket prices are ridiculously high for the north of England and a four week stint would have been more sensible.

[nightinr]

I also think it is disappointing that the Manchester shows are being described as "previews". Why charge £60+ if they are glorified rehearsals?

Either they are the real thing or stop ripping off fans!

[Monstro]

Merch looks just as you'd expect, few tee's, caps and a jacket

[Danny L]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4446EJUcAAfc_N.jpg

This is basically what I'll be wearing tomorrow. Please say hi!

Are there programs? What are the jackets like?

[Danny L]

Holy Moly!! THAT GOOD?!

Standing ovation at the end of Act 1? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 #IntervalTweet

[letsgotoofar]

A song list has been posted on Facebook from the programme, but apparently at this early stage they are only listing the material that appears in alphabetical order, not plot. We got basically everything in our wild mass guessing in this thread, except for one big hit song Meat hasn't recorded (though he claims it was written for him) -- not elaborating on which so as not to spoil it for Danny. :-P

(Also, lest anyone be confused by the song list floating around and the fact that it seems to list two names for the same speech, the segment of "Everything Louder" that has been edited into "All Revved Up" was re-titled "Wasted Youth" for the show. The speech appears in the list under its original name.)

[LP]

I have no idea quite what I've just witnessed as there is no real frame of reference. Let's try this: Orson Welles meets Stanley Kubrick meets Mad Max meets Shakespeare meets Meat Loaf. Angels, bikes, bats, dystopia, oodles of teenage flesh, love, leather and heart aching Rock and Roll. Basically it's Steinman's accumulated sexual fantasies played out on stage in one hit - it's where the Bad For Good videos left off x100. I'm so happy for Jim. His songs (via Meat Loaf) always used to belong to 'me', even in a 15,000 seater arena, now they belong to something quite different. It's the future and I love it.

[Ben]

Wow!!! Just amazing!! Cannot really describe it as much else!!

[stretch37]

Lots of great reviews on Twitter as well https://twitter.com/search?q=BatTheMusical&src=typd

Glad you all enjoyed it!

Now just come to Western Canada ;)

[proctorloaf]

Let's just say I LOVED IT!!!!

[BostonAngel]

I have no idea quite what I've just witnessed as there is no real frame of reference. Let's try this: Orson Welles meets Stanley Kubrick meets Mad Max meets Shakespeare meets Meat Loaf. Angels, bikes, bats, dystopia, oodles of teenage flesh, love, leather and heart aching Rock and Roll. Basically it's Steinman's accumulated sexual fantasies played out on stage in one hit - it's where the Bad For Good videos left off x100. I'm so happy for Jim. His songs (via Meat Loaf) always used to belong to 'me', even in a 15,000 seater arena, now they belong to something quite different. It's the future and I love it.

Your review is quite a hit. Meat Loaf quoted it on his Facebook page! Congrats to you. Glad you loved it so much

[mickp]

Jim's music came home last night. The vision is realised. Very very well done by all concerned. I'll leave detailed reviews to the professionals, but the whole show worked as a show, story, humour, music, and what a brilliant cast. I hope Meat is smiling today, the poignant and powerful Braver album and the Bat musical completing a journey in which he has played an immense part. A massive massive part of my musical life, and the journey continues, my 14 year old son who went with me last night now wants all my Meat Loaf albums...

To Meat and Jim..thanks for the magic!

[eltmatt]

Would love to see some videos :p

[ThatWriterGuy]

Glad so many people had a great time - Just to reiterate this - theatrical previews are NOT 'glorified rehearsals', nor are they 'ripping fans off'. They're listed (yes, listed - clearly) as previews because aspects and elements of the show 'may' change between now and the official opening night. Ticket price is on point with every other show of this scale (may be a good idea to actually, I don't know, be aware of what something actually is before condemning it).

Looking forward to hearing what everyone thought of the show.

[nightinr]

Glad so many people had a great time - Just to reiterate this - theatrical previews are NOT 'glorified rehearsals', nor are they 'ripping fans off'. They're listed (yes, listed - clearly) as previews because aspects and elements of the show 'may' change between now and the official opening night. Ticket price is on point with every other show of this scale (may be a good idea to actually, I don't know, be aware of what something actually is before condemning it).

Looking forward to hearing what everyone thought of the show.

They've clearly got the ticketing prices wrong for Manchester. £20-£40 would have attracted so many more people.

£65 for "previews" in the north of England is absurd.

[ThatWriterGuy]

They've clearly got the ticketing prices wrong for Manchester. £20-£40 would have attracted so many more people.

£65 for "previews" in the north of England is absurd.

Tickets for Manchester are as little as £17.50, depending on where you want to sit.

Since you clearly know how to run a multi million dollar musical based on a hit franchise better than, say, Micheal Cohl, Tony Smith, Randy Lennox, David Sonnenberg, and Jim, then maybe you should be in charge of the production? Yeah, I didn't think so. For a while there I couldn't work out if you were an idiot, or if you were just plain trolling (you've posted that same message about ticket sales three or four times now - I've answered it twice already).

[nightinr]

Tickets for Manchester are as little as £17.50, depending on where you want to sit.

Since you clearly know how to run a multi million dollar musical based on a hit franchise better than, say, Micheal Cohl, Tony Smith, Randy Lennox, David Sonnenberg, and Jim, then maybe you should be in charge of the production? Yeah, I didn't think so. For a while there I couldn't work out if you were an idiot, or if you were just plain trolling (you've posted that same message about ticket sales three or four times now - I've answered it twice already).

I might not know how to run a multi million "dollar" musical but I do know about the north of England. The theatre is practically empty for the midweek shows. I would suggest it's because many northerners don't have many spare £s.

I certainly am not trolling and don't appreciate being called an "idiot".

[ThatWriterGuy]

I might not know how to run a multi million "dollar" musical but I do know about the north of England. The theatre is practically empty for the midweek shows. I would suggest it's because many northerners don't have many spare £s.

I certainly am not trolling and don't appreciate being called an "idiot".

Yes, 'dollar'. Dollars went in.

And, hey, no worries -- we're all friends here. Though, I have to point out that the only thing that you've contributed to this thread is enormous negativity based on ignorance, and little else. I've already explained about the nature of previews and how that relates to ticket sales. I'm not going to explain it again. It's a waste of time - time that I don't have right now.

I'll leave you to your trolling :cool:

[AndrewG]

I didn't know the Manchester shows were considered "previews"? Where has this been made clear?

The reactions sound superb, does make me want to see it. But see most Saturday tickets are gone. I guess that's a good thing. Might have to try a weekday show.

But I do have to say the London prices seem very, very high for a new musical and I'm comparing this to top seats for Les Miz, Phantom and Wicked. My favourite musicals, and surely some of the most popular ones. I'm not a troll.

Will London go beyond July?

[nightinr]

Yes, 'dollar'. Dollars went in.

And, hey, no worries -- we're all friends here. Though, I have to point out that the only thing that you've contributed to this thread is enormous negativity based on ignorance, and little else. I've already explained about the nature of previews and how that relates to ticket sales. I'm not going to explain it again. It's a waste of time - time that I don't have right now.

I'll leave you to your trolling :cool:

What a strange response!

[duke knooby]

Unless I'm very much mistaken, tonight's the night, so have a really great time mr Danny L.

[ThatWriterGuy]

I didn't know the Manchester shows were considered "previews"? Where has this been made clear?

In most, if not all, of the Manchester press articles and it /was/ on the main site, but I can't verify if that's still the case as I haven't checked in there for a couple of weeks :cool: (and Andrew - I know you're not a troll!). If anyone's going tonight - I'll be the guy in the black jacket (that should narrow it down to about two thousand people, at least!).

P.S. See my 'silent stalker' is back. She loves me really ;-)

[letsgotoofar]

Call it what you want -- in New York, we'd call it an out-of-town tryout, which (aside from your terminology) it seems to be, given Manchester is followed by a West End run in London. :-P

[proctorloaf]

I don't get this rubbish negativity about 'previews' we get to see the show develop. I saw all the songs performed on opening night that possibly may not make it to the Coliseum. You don't have to buy a £65 ticket. You can buy a £20 ticket and have the most AWESOME night out.

A piece of theatre is never finished. It's always developing. There is an incorrect assumption here that a show is 'set', 'done', 'ready for an audience' - after 7 years of professional directing, and 15 years of performing in the UK, I can tell you that this is NEVER THE CASE. A show lives in the moment and an audience has to be ready. On Friday, in Manchester, the audience was READY!

This musical is a maverick, it's still developing, already it has changed musical theatre FOREVER. It is at the same time cinematic and theatrical.

I hope that in development, they put in The Future Aint What it Used to Be. It would be perfect as one of the encores, as *Spoiler Alert* singing a chorus of Bat again at the end just isn't enough. But then again, I always want MORE.

Ps. Andrew Polec is the best musical theatre singer I have ever seen - I mean - he is OUT OF THIS WORLD (And I've seen ALL the modern greats from Patti Lupone to Ramin Karimloo). To see his performance is worth the ticket price alone, he's a once in a generation find -honestly.

[ashkent7]

I'm there on a Thursday, but it meant having to take time off work for both me and my dad. Plus there were travel costs to consider so for me, the mid-week thing is what it is. Even lower prices wouldn't mean more people going. There are only so many people in Manchester itself that will want to see the musical, and there aren't as many random tourists there to add numbers. In London, people are there for reasons other than just going exclusively to see a show, so there are people who will likely arrive, see it advertised locally and purchase tickets on the day.

It is a lot of money, but so it anything in theatre. If you want cheap, go in the gods. For me, "previews" have always been for ironing out the things that happen to go wrong that weren't expected but can be avoided, and for making changes IF some aspects of the show doesn't work or isn't received well. From the opening night comments, I see a total of nothing that is of immediate concern for change so Manchester will be every bit as good as London, Broadway or anywhere else it goes to afterwards. It could naturally progress and change from production to production over years if it really becomes a long standing musical, just like We Will Rock You and such have seen changes from the original versions.

In the end you are buying a ticket for a few hours of escapism which is exactly the same as if you are booking Wicked, The Lion King, Phantom or any other established and long running show. The cast don't work any less, the production is no less impressive and professional and the running costs of the venue and wage are no lower, so why should the ticket prices be any different.

[ashkent7]

Oh and news features like this will be what builds it up along with word of mouth to turn this into exactly the same beast as the album. Ticket sales in Manchester will increase as more is put out there about it. (No massive spoilers other than a couple of set pieces)

http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-02-17/bat-of-out-hell-the-biggest-production-in-the-world/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

[ThatWriterGuy]

For a full merch list, photos, and prices, check out a post from last night on Jim's FB page :cool:

[nightinr]

Is Jim planning to come to Manchester or London?

[letsgotoofar]

Is Jim planning to come to Manchester or London?

It's a safe bet that he probably won't. He made his contributions in rehearsal via Skype, as witnessed in many of the production shots on Facebook and from the creative team's word in early promo videos, which suggests to at least this poster that if he couldn't physically be there for rehearsals (which, of any time in a show's development, is key for him to be there, as someone with experience like proctorloaf, TWG, or myself would be the first to tell you), he probably won't make it for the real deal until it reaches his shore. I don't wish to expose anyone's private business publicly (though occasionally in fits of pique I have unintentionally stirred drama), but clearly Jim is not as well as could be hoped, which is all the more reason the show goes well, if it means his legacy is cemented.

[Savant!!!]

From Jacqueline on the Rockman Record (Jim Site) - see knows Jim.

"first show is the "opening" he may be back in March and I think he will be in London in June for sure".

[ThatWriterGuy]

Last I heard, directly from Jim, is that he was hoping to make some though not all of London. :cool:

[nightinr]

From Jacqueline on the Rockman Record (Jim Site) - see knows Jim.

"first show is the "opening" he may be back in March and I think he will be in London in June for sure".

Great that he is coming to see his work in action. Hopefully Meat will be able to see it at some stage as well.

[tonyloaf]

I think 5th june maybe the one

[Monstro]

Last I heard, directly from Jim, is that he was hoping to make some though not all of London. :cool:

I think 5th june maybe the one

Opening night London, on my birthday, would be the icing on the birthday cake lol

[AndyK]

Opening night London, on my birthday, would be the icing on the birthday cake lol

Might have to be a drink or two factored in to that day then!

[tonyloaf]

my gf birthday also that night so that makes it double drinks right?

I should let you know that Guy wanted to buy us all drinks on the night as he is feeling emotional about the whole thing.

How random that cake was mentioned and we had a moment from my King ;)

[K1ttycat]

So looking forward to this, so excited, so nervous, I can't wait! Going this Saturday for the afternoon matinee. Does anyone know how long the show is, including interval? Making dinner plans for afterwards... thanks!

[ThatWriterGuy]

Three hours, give or take :)

[tonyloaf]

just realised that my auto txt messed up my last post lol oh well Andy still knew about the cake

[nightinr]

Hi what time does the show start? The ticket says 7.30 is that the starting time or doors open? Thanks

[madagascar]

Start of the show :-)

[Danny L]

Posted setlist in other thread for those interested

[nightinr]

Start of the show :-)

Wow that's early!

[ashkent7]

Wow that's early!

It's a bit longer than most other shows though...most of them run about 2 hours 30 with interval. From what I've heard...as in about four posts up...you're looking at about half an hour longer hence the early start. I'm guessing.

[Danny L]

They're looking at cutting down

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

the shows in manchester are advertised as previews yes but atg theaters have a pilot scheme called manchester gets it first and the plan is that its for new shows like bat out of hell and ghost the musical 9 till 5 uk tour so they can try out in front of an audience and the part of the plan is if it works in manchester it will work anywhere and as for prices tickets start from £17.50 -£55.00 thats for standard ticket prices at all atg theaters its only when you and the vip extra package when the price goes up witch is optional also the tickets are the same price as a ticket for a meat loaf gig i think but you are getting a comfy seat to and in a nice atmosphere http://www.broadwayworld.com/uk-regional/article/Ambassador-Theatre-Group-Launches-Manchester-Gets-it-First-20110516

[Danny L]

https://dannylavery9.wordpress.com/2017/02/21/review-bat-out-of-hell-preview-18th-february-2017-opera-house-manchester-uk/

HERE is my spoilerific review of the show!!

[ThatWriterGuy]

Ah, you lucky Canadians!

October, 2017 - with the London cast. That's all I know for now.

:cool:

[eltmatt]

Has anyone noticed tickets for the London show seem rather expensive compared to other shows. Tickets between £15-250 compared to Les Mis £12.50-£127

[AndrewG]

Has anyone noticed tickets for the London show seem rather expensive compared to other shows. Tickets between £15-250 compared to Les Mis £12.50-£127

Yup, I think it is astonishingly expensive, especially since it is a new musical and I just saw Wicked a few weeks ago on a Saturday and had some of the most expensive seats. And here was me thinking that only Wicked / Les mis / Phantom could charge those kind of fees.

To be fair the musical looks pretty good from what I have heard and seen on photos. It could only work if they indeed went all out and it looks like they did. Hope to catch it but pricey it sure is.... (London at least)

Just saw most expensive seats for Lion King are now £142 for Saturdays in a few weeks. Musical prices sure have increased, so maybe it is just in line. But still since Bat is so new... wow. But if they can sell them then I guess it is justified.
For anyone wanting to take family to Lion King and best seats, now a week's holiday might be cheaper... Jeez.

[ashkent7]

Yup, I think it is astonishingly expensive, especially since it is a new musical and I just saw Wicked a few weeks ago on a Saturday and had some of the most expensive seats. And here was me thinking that only Wicked / Les mis / Phantom could charge those kind of fees.

To be fair the musical looks pretty good from what I have heard and seen on photos. It could only work if they indeed went all out and it looks like they did. Hope to catch it but pricey it sure is.... (London at least)

Just saw most expensive seats for Lion King are now £142 for Saturdays in a few weeks. Musical prices sure have increased, so maybe it is just in line. But still since Bat is so new... wow. But if they can sell them then I guess it is justified.
For anyone wanting to take family to Lion King and best seats, now a week's holiday might be cheaper... Jeez.

I would guess that some of the price is dependant on the cost of production and with the stuff that I've seen I'm guessing there are more costs involved than with a lot of big shows.

Other than that...it is still a show in a theatre so the prices were always going to be at least in line with other top productions. And London is London. We were going to see the Lion King when it toured and tickets up here were £65 for second tier seats in the dress circle (we didn't get to see it as my wife went into labour an hour before it started a week early after joking for months that if she had it during the show I was going to Simba it with the baby on the balcony) So London tickets are always over inflated anyway, but, so is everything else down there.

[AndrewG]

I would guess that some of the price is dependant on the cost of production and with the stuff that I've seen I'm guessing there are more costs involved than with a lot of big shows.

Other than that...it is still a show in a theatre so the prices were always going to be at least in line with other top productions. And London is London. We were going to see the Lion King when it toured and tickets up here were £65 for second tier seats in the dress circle (we didn't get to see it as my wife went into labour an hour before it started a week early after joking for months that if she had it during the show I was going to Simba it with the baby on the balcony) So London tickets are always over inflated anyway, but, so is everything else down there.

It's very suspicious what is going on with Lion King. I went to see the show 6 years ago and easily got two front row tickets one month in advance. Two years later I went again and had similar front row seats. I'm not 100% sure but it appears now that by looking at quite a few dates, either through the Lion King site itself or ticketmaster front row seats for the middle area where I've sat are never available, no matter how far you go into the future.
Furthermore the best advanced ticket prices for the front stalls area seems to be around £77

In 2011 I paid £105 for two tickets, in 2013 it was £120. So now you can't really go for much less than £154 for two people if you want to sit near the front at least (and these are not what the venue thinks are the very best seats btw).
It's quite an increase and I'm guessing those front middle area tickets are going straight to resellers now.

Shame.

I hope resellers are not getting their hands on tons of Bat tickets, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[Danny L]

I might have booked a LDN matinee ticket for the 20th July

Because, y'know..

[Monstro]

For anyone wanting to take family to Lion King and best seats, now a week's holiday might be cheaper... Jeez.

Yup, looked at a family outing to that, quckly changed our mind, jut couldn't justify pending that much

[AndrewG]

Yup, looked at a family outing to that, quckly changed our mind, jut couldn't justify pending that much

It's a great show, kids love it, the additional songs are superb especially "They live in you", but last time I went and sat near the front I couldn't help but be irritated by the orchestra members and conductor who blatantly were talking during non music parts. Even the conductor looked like he showed up in his sportsdirect.com tracksuit.

At these prices a more professional approach can be expected in my opinion.

[nightinr]

I'm going to Manchester tonight. Will report back tomorrow with a honest review.

[K1ttycat]

I went to the matinee today. I was totally blown away. I don't think I blinked the entire first act, and the second act I blinked only when I was trying to rid myself of the tears that were welling up.

I was a bit disappointed that Andrew Polec was replaced by his understudy, but Benjamin Purkiss did an amazing job (and he is just so adorable!). There was so much to take in - the story, the music, the incredible staging. I feel like I need to see it at least three more times before I could really review it properly. It is like when I'm editing a book for a client - I read it through and correct any minor errors, and then the second and third read-throughs really analyze the story piece by piece.

What I will say is that this was one million times better than anything produced on stage before. I didn't want it to end. I wanted to stay there and become a part of that world.

I'm seriously considering running away with the show. :-)

I hope to make it back a few more times - just had a look at tickets and most shows are down to single seats, though, and I want to take as many friends as I can. Definitely not to be missed.

[ashkent7]

I went to the matinee today. I was totally blown away. I don't think I blinked the entire first act, and the second act I blinked only when I was trying to rid myself of the tears that were welling up.

I was a bit disappointed that Andrew Polec was replaced by his understudy, but Benjamin Purkiss did an amazing job (and he is just so adorable!). There was so much to take in - the story, the music, the incredible staging. I feel like I need to see it at least three more times before I could really review it properly. It is like when I'm editing a book for a client - I read it through and correct any minor errors, and then the second and third read-throughs really analyze the story piece by piece.

What I will say is that this was one million times better than anything produced on stage before. I didn't want it to end. I wanted to stay there and become a part of that world.

I'm seriously considering running away with the show. :-)

I hope to make it back a few more times - just had a look at tickets and most shows are down to single seats, though, and I want to take as many friends as I can. Definitely not to be missed.

Just out of curiosity on this...is Ben doing a lot of shows at the minute or is it that he's doing most of the matinees and Andrew is taking the evenings? I know a lot of shows have had to do that when there are so many shows and a role is as challenging as this has to be.

[K1ttycat]

The programme booklet also lists a second understudy for this role - don't have the book in front of me and can't remember the actor's name.

[nightinr]

MANCHESTER 25TH FEBRUARY 7.30PM REVIEW

As promised I thought I would scribble a few notes about my experience last night.....

Firstly I must add I'm not a regular on the musical scene so I didn't really know what to expect. The Opera House in all honesty is a bit of a dump....I'm sure it was nice 50 years ago but it is in urgent need of a lick of paint and being brought into the 21st century.

It was a packed house and the crowd were all ages from 16-75 - a really nice mix of people.

I was disappointed that Andrew Polec was replaced by Benjamin Purkiss. Apparently this has happened a few times. I overheard somebody saying there was "problems with Andrew" - not sure if that is illness or something else?

Benjamin Purkiss and Christina Bennington gave solid performances -it is obvious they were very musically drilled. They both lacked the high notes Christina especially on Heaven Can Wait but on the whole they gave good performances. I would have liked both characters to be a bit more "rugged"....maybe that's what Andrew brings to the show. Benjamin Purkiss is almost too good looking - I bet he is copping off with every female member of the show!

The real stars of the show was Rob Fowler and Sharon Sexton who gave unbelievable vocal and acting performances. Truly phenomenal especially Rob Fowler.

Also of note was Danielle Steers who gave an incredible performance of 2 out of 3.

Of the show itself it had a great set, great props and the music was fantastic. The songs that I don't always like Meat singing such as Objects, 2outof3, Crying out of Loud seemed perfect for the musical genre. I even enjoyed Who needs the Young (Rob Fowler sang it so much better than Meat!).

The main things thatthe producers need to work on prior to the official opening is the dancing which at times seemed like the local drama school and the attempted comedy....which I didn't find funny at all (nor did the majority of the audience).

I was critical of the show charging £65 for previews, however after seeing the show and approx 25 cast members plus orchestra I can see why they charge so much. I will admit I got that wrong.

Overall it was a great night bringing Steinman music to life. Few things to work on but hoping it ill be a long term success.

[Renegade Angel]

I saw the show on Thursday 23rd Feb, Amazing show! Does anybody know the relevance of 'Modern Girl' Being played at the close of the show? I thought its possibly a nod to Meat Loaf but wondered why this song?

[K1ttycat]

MANCHESTER 25TH FEBRUARY 7.30PM REVIEW

As promised I thought I would scribble a few notes about my experience last night.....

Firstly I must add I'm not a regular on the musical scene so I didn't really know what to expect. The Opera House in all honesty is a bit of a dump....I'm sure it was nice 50 years ago but it is in urgent need of a lick of paint and being brought into the 21st century.

It was a packed house and the crowd were all ages from 16-75 - a really nice mix of people.

I was disappointed that Andrew Polec was replaced by Benjamin Purkiss. Apparently this has happened a few times. I overheard somebody saying there was "problems with Andrew" - not sure if that is illness or something else?

Benjamin Purkiss and Christina Bennington gave solid performances -it is obvious they were very musically drilled. They both lacked the high notes Christina especially on Heaven Can Wait but on the whole they gave good performances. I would have liked both characters to be a bit more "rugged"....maybe that's what Andrew brings to the show. Benjamin Purkiss is almost too good looking - I bet he is copping off with every female member of the show!

The real stars of the show was Rob Fowler and Sharon Sexton who gave unbelievable vocal and acting performances. Truly phenomenal especially Rob Fowler.

Also of note was Danielle Steers who gave an incredible performance of 2 out of 3.

Of the show itself it had a great set, great props and the music was fantastic. The songs that I don't always like Meat singing such as Objects, 2outof3, Crying out of Loud seemed perfect for the musical genre. I even enjoyed Who needs the Young (Rob Fowler sang it so much better than Meat!).

The main things thatthe producers need to work on prior to the official opening is the dancing which at times seemed like the local drama school and the attempted comedy....which I didn't find funny at all (nor did the majority of the audience).

I was critical of the show charging £65 for previews, however after seeing the show and approx 25 cast members plus orchestra I can see why they charge so much. I will admit I got that wrong.

Overall it was a great night bringing Steinman music to life. Few things to work on but hoping it ill be a long term success.

My husband said the same thing about the dancing. To be more specific, he said waving your hands above your head (cue his ridiculous demonstration!) isn't dancing. I think he was referring to the dancers in the Paradise scene. I enjoyed the dancing, but it sort of stayed in the background for me as I concentrated on whoever was singing at the time in each scene.

I wouldn't really call the comedy "comedy" but more like quirky, clever lines - but perhaps seeing it from a US background some of it made more sense? I can't remember the exact line, but the one where "home" was in the reply is one example.

I was actually impressed with the Opera House. The seats were nice and plush - we were in Row H in the stalls so had extra legroom – and the carpet in the theatre looked relatively new - well, within the past few years at least - in comparison to the pub-like carpeting on the stairs, etc. We saw Cats last year, but I don't remember being as impressed - it seemed like something was different this time around.

Oh and Ben was definitely an insta-crush for my 13-year-old daughter ... lol :-)

[greg]

Could someone give my, some advice on booking tickets for bat out of hell musical.i looked to book for the balcony. Date Saturday matinee 2.30 on 8 July but it seems there only handful tickets left.so I didn't know if they hold them back. And release more tickets as the date become nearer.

[proctorloaf]

It's selling well in London now Greg. There's a few different places selling tickets I think so it maybe that you'll find better seats on ticketmaster etc? I book through ATGtickets.com

[proctorloaf]

Went again last night - Ben Purkiss was good, not as intense as Andrew IMO, some songs seem a little too big for him but I think he looks right and he's romantic in the correct way. When he sings in his higher register it's beautiful but he's much more Musical Theatre than Rock and Roll.

Got to have a closer look at the stage, the set is phenomenal and the bedroom set is so steep! Could hardly stand, don't know how they do it!!

Second time, the dance has is starting to work - TOOK THE WORDS choreography is amazing now! The show is really tightening up, there was much less waiting for intros into songs than on the opening night too.

I love the show, I knew I would. It's amazing to watch it grow. In again on Thursday :P

[ashkent7]

Went again last night - Ben Purkiss was good, not as intense as Andrew IMO, some songs seem a little too big for him but I think he looks right and he's romantic in the correct way. When he sings in his higher register it's beautiful but he's much more Musical Theatre than Rock and Roll.

Got to have a closer look at the stage, the set is phenomenal and the bedroom set is so steep! Could hardly stand, don't know how they do it!!

Second time, the dance has is starting to work - TOOK THE WORDS choreography is amazing now! The show is really tightening up, there was much less waiting for intros into songs than on the opening night too.

I love the show, I knew I would. It's amazing to watch it grow. In again on Thursday :P

See as much as I would have loved to go earlier, that's partly why I'm happy to wait until next month to see it to give it a little chance to get any immediate improvements bed in. I would like to get to London to see it but it's unlikely due mainly to timing so I'd like to see it as close to what London will be (barring any changes that are made between the runs to script and songs etc).

Also, Greg, on the ticket front, I know they did block off a lot of later seats for Manchester until the earlier shows were selling more, but as has been said I think London is doing well. There are always a few seats end up appearing close to the time, but in general I think what is there is what is there.

[ThatWriterGuy]

Went again last night - Ben Purkiss was good, not as intense as Andrew IMO, some songs seem a little too big for him but I think he looks right and he's romantic in the correct way. When he sings in his higher register it's beautiful but he's much more Musical Theatre than Rock and Roll.

Got to have a closer look at the stage, the set is phenomenal and the bedroom set is so steep! Could hardly stand, don't know how they do it!!

Second time, the dance has is starting to work - TOOK THE WORDS choreography is amazing now! The show is really tightening up, there was much less waiting for intros into songs than on the opening night too.

I love the show, I knew I would. It's amazing to watch it grow. In again on Thursday :P

Glad that you're enjoying it so much! Did you notice anything ... different ... about last night's show?

[eltmatt]

I'm there tommorrow night front row, so excited. I dont mind seeing Ben or Andrew with their tops off but since I've followed this since last July feel like I really wanna see Andrew :p

[tonyloaf]

Who is going for the London opening night? Big meet up??

[nightinr]

Do we know why Andrew Polec is missing so many shows? Is it due to illness or something else?

[proctorloaf]

Glad that you're enjoying it so much! Did you notice anything ... different ... about last night's show?

I watched really closely, (and I spoke to Jay before the show) but I only noticed that the show was tighter, there were changes in the script around what happened to Strat between the end of Act 1 and the journey in Act 2.

But apart from the development of the choreography and the show generally making more sense to me, I didn't notice any major changes...

I think the songs were in the same order etc

What was the plan? I'd love to know. DM if better please? :)

Thanks,
Ant

[ThatWriterGuy]

I watched really closely, (and I spoke to Jay before the show) but I only noticed that the show was tighter, there were changes in the script around what happened to Strat between the end of Act 1 and the journey in Act 2.

But apart from the development of the choreography and the show generally making more sense to me, I didn't notice any major changes...

I think the songs were in the same order etc

What was the plan? I'd love to know. DM if better please? :)

Thanks,
Ant

Good Girls was cut, too!

[eltmatt]

Im so excited now