CHSIB Relaunch

[Diane]

I've just received word from Mercury that "Testify" will not now be the new single. Instead CHSIB (the single) has been relaunched. It has been sent out to radio stations and an advertising campaign is about to begin.

Will keep everyone posted as I receive more news.

[Asha]

Will they still do Testify as a single though?

It's great though that they finally understand that you need promotion to get a single up the charts....

Asha

[ChrisBelfast]

Maybe testify will be on the release too. Ive noticed in the charts nowadays its getting common for 2 songs to be released into the charts at once (sorta) There is 2 tracks and the radio plays alternate ones. So sometimes they might play CHSIB and sometimes they might play Testify. Would be great if this was the case, but i doubt it. Westlife have been using this method.

I'd imagine CHSIB the single would be have to be changed insome way e.g a remix or a new radio edit. I can't see the exact same version being relaunched. If so then we need great B sides to sell the song again. Thanks Diane for letting us know as soon as you did.

[MBrevard]

Hi, Diane! Thanks for the information. But this is so curious. Did they say anything about why this change was made? Does it have anything to do with the fact that Meat wouldn't be there the end of the July to promote a new single, but WILL be there for a few days in early July, when he could do some promotion for the new CHSIB?

I wonder if Meat has gotten this word yet, since he has said nothing here? Sounds like this was a last minute decision, perhaps. What do you think?

Interesting idea, Chris. I hope you're right. This is a little disappointing, but only because I was looking forward to Testify and seeing how it did. And all this following Mercury's request for the fans' input...Something doesn't make sense here, but then, of course, we don't have the full story yet. :??:

Oh, I forgot, I'm now wondering if there is any word as to whether BOY will still be released in Germany and Holland or will THAT be changed, as well?

Love,
MB
xxx

[MBrevard]

Sorry to post again so quickly, but a thought just occurred to me.

Perhaps, because of what Meat is currently going through, there was no time to complete the video for Testify. So, plans would then have had to change.

What does everyone think? Is that plausible? :??:

Just a thought...

Love,
MB
xxx

[Diane]

This is all the information I have at the moment but will post more when I hear back from Mercury.

I can confirm that "BOY" is being released in Germany.

[Jayd]

Excellent , CHSIB was not given a chance, with some promotional backing from Mercury, I say it will be in the top 10, better still No1. Still hope a release of Testify is on the cards, this song ROCKS :)

[MBrevard]

Thanks, Diane! Look forward to hearing more about this!

Jayd2, I agree! Also hope they are producing LOTS of singles this time and there will be no distribution problems at either end!! :roll:

Can't wait to hear the remixed version of CHSIB!! I wonder what song(s) WILL be released with it?? :D

Love,
MB
xxx

[heat]

This is fantastic!!!

Can't wait :D :D :D

Heat
xxx

[Testify]

This is great news, even though i was lookin forward to Testify being released.

Bring on the advertising campaign!!

[Sapphire Lady]

Hopefully it will do better second time around as it really is an excellent song.

[CarylB]

As Mercury are still involved in an on-going survey for what they described as "Meat's next single release" I would hope that the current relaunch is just that, and that a new single will come out, perhaps to tie in with his UK tour.

The point about having something available for Paryy in the Park is a good one, as is MB's about a video .. although as Meat has said, record companies tend not to put money up for too many videos these days.

I will ask about the survey and what the information will be contributing to.

[sherrie87]

Another thing to consider is that there are many live and/or synch'ed versions of CHSIB "in the can" from the many UK/European TV and radio appearances a few months back-unless the remix is dramatically different, these can be reused for promo purposed on the remix release. On the other hand, tapes of "Testify" live are probably few and far between. They probably want the big man at full speed for the push for Testify. Just my opinion, maybe there's a bit of fact to it.

Sherrie

[cerysmeatloaf]

i hope that CHSIB does get a 2nd chance allthough as meny of you have said i was allso looking forwared to testify but hey good things come to thoes who waite yeah oh well guess we may have to watie a bit longer :D

[CarylB]

And let's gear up to make this a great success .. remember all those things we did before? Let's do them again .. to the power of 10!!!!

All the information is still on:

http://republic-of-loafdom.com/World%20News/CHSIB/Help.htm

Let's get those posters up, the ether busy and those lines hot!!

[cerysmeatloaf]

And let's gear up to make this a great success .. remember all those things we did before? Let's do them again .. to the power of 10!!!!

All the information is still on:

http://republic-of-loafdom.com/World%20News/CHSIB/Help.htm

Let's get those posters up, the ether busy and those lines hot!!

ok will do

[Diane]

Discussions are currently going on with Mercury about an advertising campaign for "CHSIB". Let's hold our horses until we find out from them just how they want us to lend our support and we have had a chance to tender our suggestions.

[CarylB]

Sorry I'm confused now. You said
Instead CHSIB (the single) has been relaunched. It has been sent out to radio stations and an advertising campaign is about to begin.


If it's BEEN relaunced and sent to radio stations what's the problem with asking for it to be played? Or encouraging people we know to look for it and buy it?

[Diane]

Sorry I'm confused now. You said
Instead CHSIB (the single) has been relaunched. It has been sent out to radio stations and an advertising campaign is about to begin.


If it's BEEN relaunced and sent to radio stations what's the problem with asking for it to be played? Or encouraging people we know to look for it and buy it?

Sorry if you didn't understand Caryl but as I said an advertising campaign is ABOUT to begin. I have no intentions of jumping in over Mercury's head but am waiting to hear how they want things to be handled.

[Testify]

thanks for info Diane.

[CarylB]

MB wrote:
And all this following Mercury's request for the fans' input...Something doesn't make sense here, but then, of course, we don't have the full story yet.

I've just heard back from Mercury about this. Here is their reply:

The info we requested is for the next proper commercial release single which will NOT be Testify and (will be) released in November, thats why we need the info. You're right we couldn't physically turn around a single with the info you're providing, so it'll be used for the future single

So there you have it. It won't be Testify, but the information you have all provided will be used. :)

[Testify]

Thanx!!

[CarylB]

You're welcome Testify. And have also heard from them about the surrent reissue of CHSIB . In terms of what we did before to get it airtime, their response is

GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

So let's :))

[Testify]

Nice one!! :D

Lets go ppl!!

[mariella]

:bunny: :bunny: :bunny:

Mariella

I LOVE this!

Don't understand WHY Testify is not going to be released. But WT*DIK! :lol:

[CarylB]

Mariella .. you ole Meat softie .. I LOVE your excitement :))))

[Dave]

Discussions are currently going on with Mercury about an advertising campaign for "CHSIB". Let's hold our horses until we find out from them just how they want us to lend our support and we have had a chance to tender our suggestions.

Here! Here!

I would hate for Mercury to do with CHSIB what Fox is rumored to be doing with Shock Treatment. There is a massive push on the fan's part to try to get Shock Treatment (the followup to Rocky Horror) released on DVD. Rumor has it that Fox is slow on the draw there because they just don't want to deal with overzealous fans. Promotion is good when you are not becoming a pest and a block for what you are trying to promote.

[mariella]

I hear you, David. Do you really think this could work against Meat?
Yes, I gues you do, that's why you posted, sorry. I know so little about how this all works. :oops:
I am confused now, so not doing anything this evening, is that a good idea?

I am just going to follow this and see where it's going, while preparing myself for this 'campaign', okay?

Love,

Mariella

It's now 19.46 hours and I feel I have to edit this message. I don't understand WHY we cannot start emailing, if Mercury told Caryl to Go for it!!??

Now, the last thing in the world I would want to do is do anything that would 'harm' any release by Meat, ever. That's why I posted the above, and I will still not do anything until that is absolutly cristal clear.

But could someone please explain to me, What is going on here???

Sorry, if it's I am the only one who doesn't understand, in that case, just ignore me! :lol:

[CarylB]

David wrote:
There is a massive push on the fan's part to try to get Shock Treatment (the followup to Rocky Horror) released on DVD. Rumor has it that Fox is slow on the draw there because they just don't want to deal with overzealous fans.

Of course this refers to fans lobbying for something new/different to be released, and I take your point absolutely about these kinds of situations. But I'm sure you can see that there is a difference between this situation and the one regarding CHSIB.

This is as Diane said a "relaunch" .. not even a new edit it would seem .. So this is a product already on the shelves in the shops. Mercury have said doing what we did before to get airtime will pose "no problem whatsoever" .. that seems reasonable, so I shall do as their Product Manager suggests and Go for it! .. and I hope other UK fans will do the same

[cerysmeatloaf]

so just asking so has the radio stations got for us to ask for it to be played

[MBrevard]

Hi, everyone! Been away from my computer for the morning and am trying to catch up on all that has happened here.

Like Mariella, I am a bit confused about some of the things going on here and this seems like as good a place as any to talk about it and perhaps ask some questions of those of you who may be more knowledgeable about this process.

This is my first time going through this with a performer. I have to admit to being a total novice when it comes to the way things are done and why they are done in a certain fashion. And, being the curious sort, I'd like to know more. I'd like to understand. So, please, friends, the things I'm about to say are for discussion purposes only. I want to learn and I'd also like to hear what everyone thinks or feels about the subject.

First, Meat told us quite awhile ago, that the rerelease of CHSIB would include a remix--going back into the studio and cutting/editing it differently. This made sense, if they were going to try to have a second round push for the song. I'm still hoping this will be the case.

If it is not, I am wondering, from those who know more about this, what would the advantage be in just rereleasing the SAME single/same B songs?? I just don't understand. Yes, I know that not enough singles were produced the first time around and we all know what happened. So, I suppose this may be Mercury's way of admitting an error/misjudgment was made at the time!

I can understand why they are doing this NOW--with the Plymouth concert coming and Party in the Park. Perhaps the show Meat did with Russell Watson will air sometime soon and that, too, will help. But how much impact will there be to release the SAME thing, with hardcore fans already having purchased it (sometimes, several of them)? I am having difficulties understanding the reasoning behind a decision like that (if, indeed, this is the way things go down. I'm still hoping that Diane will find out this is not the case, and there WILL be a different release of the same song, which didn't have a chance the first time around).

Secondly, why in the world would a record company NOT select the best/most powerful/most popular song on an album for release? And by this, I mean Testify!! WHY would they NOT be releasing Testify during the time Meat will be over there singing and performing to soldout after soldout concerts?? This makes NO sense to me and again, I am trying to understand.

I have heard people say, who, sadly, do not like this album in general, that they LOVE Testify! We, here, have heard stories of people who don't even like Meat, who LOVE this song! We've heard from young and old alike!!

The only possible reason I have been able to come up with in my own mind is--money (ah, the bottom line). Is Mercury going to release DIST in the UK next because there is ALREADY a video for it and they won't have to pay for another??

Now, I love DIST. I have no problem with that being a release, if it's going to be. It is probably my third favorite song on the album. But so many of us here have such a strong feeling about Testify and the possibilities, the potential IT has for going all the way to the top, that I cannot understand this decision. Where is Mercury's research on this? Or don't they do that before deciding what to release and in what order? Wouldn't a Number 1 hit single make up for the money paid to produce a video (if that is the problem here--and of course, we don't know that it is. All this is merely speculation)?

Anyway, I am very confused right now and would love to hear what you all have to say and how YOU feel about this.

I'm always happy to help and do what I can for whatever comes along here. That's not the problem. But inside, I have this growing feeling that these decisions, perhaps, are NOT in the best interest of someone we all care about and love very much!!

I really need to hear another take on it!

Thanks for listening. I look forward to hearing what y'all have to say.

Love to everyone,
MB
xxx

[CarylB]

All I can tell you MB is what Mercury's Product Manager told me tnday. It is, as Diane posted, a relaunch of the previous single. Given the number of Meat's fans in the UK there must still be many who have not bought it .. and although I have to agree I'd hoped for something that was different in some way, I suspect many of the people who bought it first time round would not buy it again even if it was a different edit.

I agree re the timing with PartyITP and Plymouth coming up, and with the suggestion that the company is trying to make up for the debacle that was the first release.

As to what the new single in November will be, they say it has yet to be decided. He said it is not Testify, but I take that to mean it hasn't been decided as much as anything, and to be fair I don't think there has ever been an official announcement that it was going to be has there?

He did say in an earlier conversation that Meat is always involved in decisions .. so who knows what it will be ultimately? The man himself I guess. Their Product Manager promised to let us know when it was decided, so I think whatever we feel about it, the current position is CHSIB is being relaunched now, and a new single, as yet not decided, will be released in the UK in November.

[Guppie]

This is all the information I have at the moment but will post more when I hear back from Mercury.

I can confirm that "BOY" is being released in Germany.
I'm a bit confused now... so no Testify single in the UK and BOY in Germany... what about the Nederlands? Still BOY?

[Sapphire Lady]

I'm a bit confused now...

You're not the only one Guppie. The record companies seem to be making a right pig's ear of the singles.

[original sin]

Seems like confusion reigns :? I find if difficult to decide beween the different phases used. To me Relaunched and Rereleased could mean totally different things.

Are we going to get 1/ a new release of CHSIB hitting the shops? or
2/ as this is reading to me an advertsing campaign on what is already released?

If it's the 2nd then we're talking about something we already have available and out there so I'm quite happy to start picking up the phone and emailing radio stations again. My local one only ever played it the once that I know of during the second week of the album release.

[ChrisBelfast]

there was a new CHSIB album version released on monday past (16th). It retails at £22.99 and is available at HMV. I have yet to get my copy but i was told by HMV sales it has a different cover (probably red) and an extra cd of promotional material and the DIST video. I have yet to see it myself but will tomorrow. Just found out at tea time!

[original sin]

there was a new CHSIB album version released on monday past (16th). It retails at £22.99 and is available at HMV. I have yet to get my copy but i was told by HMV sales it has a different cover (probably red) and an extra cd of promotional material and the DIST video. I have yet to see it myself but will tomorrow. Just found out at tea time!

Ok I now have a serious sense of humour failure 8O nothing like advance warning is there :??: I will be very interested to see what this new album has to warrant it being almost double the cost of the last :??: :roll:

[Shane]

there was a new CHSIB album version released on monday past (16th). It retails at £22.99 and is available at HMV. I have yet to get my copy but i was told by HMV sales it has a different cover (probably red) and an extra cd of promotional material and the DIST video. I have yet to see it myself but will tomorrow. Just found out at tea time!

Going by your description, that sounds like the German release, released at the end of March if my memory is correct. The German cd cover is red and features a bonus disc. If the German version is now being sold in the UK, it would probably be classified as an import. Imports are usually more expensive than `local' versions.

Meat has said (on a previous post of his) that there will be a relaunch of CHSIB in New Zealand in October, to coincide with the initial Australian release. He also said there will be a single in NZ around that time (that's the way I interpret his post anyway). I wonder if this is the single that will be released in the UK in November. If so, then NZers might get it before our UK friends. Or it could be a single (eg CHSIB, DIST) released elsewhere, or perhaps something entirely different.

I'd like the relaunched single to be different in some way, but going by what others have said that doesn't seem likely. I'd like the relaunched album in NZ (in October) to be the UK one with blue cover and bonus disc, but if `relaunch' means just selling more of the same, I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up.

[ChrisBelfast]

i had immediately thought it was an import too, still do, but what confused me was when the guy said over the phone how had it had "an extra cd of promotional songs". Guess i'll know for sure when i get it. But yes, the price/cover does point to it perhaps being an import.

[tbuck]

Mariella,
you'd best watch that language. :lol: Where did you pick that up?

I'm with you, confused as heck as to what Mercury is up to, wonder if they even know? :??:

Best regards,
T

[Testify]

i saw the album in Andys records which had a red cover, i figured it was an import so didnt get it.

[CarylB]

Right Testify. I think the point is that now HMV, like Amazon and other high street stores, are out of the limited edition 2CD version. It WAS a limited edition after all. So now they are offering the import as it does have a video on it, and as Shane said, imports always cost more. And the release date HMV refer to on their website is their date for it being available, nothing to do with a "release date" from Mercury. For eg, on their site Midnight and Prime Cuts both have release dates in 2000, which must have been about availability.

I don't see that Mercury, or any record company, has any control over this. Their Product Manager has said the next new single will be in November, and that their current exercise with the CHSIB single is a re-launch .. in fact his exact words were "re-servicing" which makes it pretty clear that, for whatever reason, it is the same CD.
,
I think it would be nice for Meat if those of us who can, start working to get it played on the radio. There are thousands of fans in the UK who won't yet have bought it, and even if they don't buy the single, airplay should promote more sales of the album to those who have not bought it yet. We still have all the phone umbers and email addresses in the ROL Help Meat section, and posters for anyone who'd like them. I'm off to help promote The Man :)

[Sapphire Lady]

I think the point is that now HMV, like Amazon and other high street stores, are out of the limited edition 2CD version. It WAS a limited edition after all. So now they are offering the import as it does have a video on it, and as Shane said, imports always cost more.

Hopefully they're also selling the normal version of the CD as not everyone will want to buy an expensive import. If they're only offering the import this could have a detrimental effect on album sales/chart position.

[CarylB]

Indeed they are. The normal version of the album is still available on-line at HMV at £11.99.

HMV do seem to like to offer imports as an addition to their catalogue. They are also offering the import of Fallen Angel, a 2CD set recently released again in Germany

[Sapphire Lady]

Indeed they are. The normal version of the album is still available on-line at HMV at £11.99.


Glad to hear that.

[CarylB]

Yep .. album and single are waiting to be bought .. so let's get this wonderful song PLAYED and get those suckers OFF the shelves and UP the charts:))

[CarylB]

On seeing my post again I should point out the omitted word was one so often used by the Man Himself .. little s .u.c.k.e.r :))))

[CarylB]

As there is a thread on P3 at the moment:

HELP CHSIB GET TO NO 1 IN UK - THINGS YOU CAN DO

I'm going to breathe a bit of O2 into that one, and invite all who want to help with promoting airplay and sales of the re-serviced CHSIB to join me there .. and capture some of the enthusiasm and excitement we used to help Meat before :))

[Kev]

It all seems quite simple to me... The single sold as many as it could with little backing so they realised the value of it so it will be re-released soon. They also said Testify will be released at a later date. So where is all the confusion coming from?

The album was limited edition as someone just said and has pretty much sold out of stock. Maybe before the company predicted it would do and more copies are yet to be printed, therefore, the german version is being shiped in so the sales don't fall flat.

Did I Say That should be released after Testify because that has the most chance of a really strong chart position.

[cerysmeatloaf]

ok i just want to know something what is the differance between the rad cover album and bule album cover i have them both and cart see no differance acept the album cover

[Asha]

The red cover has Mercury Blues as a hidden track, and the blue one has BOOH as hidden track. Otherwise I would not know

[sherrie87]

I have the blue cover and it has both BOOH and Mercury Blues as hidden tracks- don't all the blue ones have both?

Sherrie

[Asha]

I only have the red, so I don't know

Asha

[original sin]

It all seems quite simple to me... The single sold as many as it could with little backing so they realised the value of it so it will be re-released soon. They also said Testify will be released at a later date. So where is all the confusion coming from?

Personally my confusion comes from the continual play on words i.e Release versa Relaunch they have a diffent slant

Also I am now hearing that Testify is not to be released. Well to me that is also defined as confusion when different people have conflicting information.

[cerysmeatloaf]

i have the bule won too ive got Mercury Blues but where is the other hidden track

[Sue K]

no matter what...

I'M confoosed...lol...

but confusion is the state i usually reside in...

tink...hearing voices...XO

[dottie]

Went into HMV Hounslow today - no import CHSIB - same old story - no where to be seen- couldn't expect anything more from the local record shops :evil:

[original sin]

My local Tesco's has the blue cover album(2 CD's) at no.26 they have quite a bit of stock on the shelves so if any one neds one and is having trouble pm, or email me and we can arrange something

[Sue K]

SIN!

when you say at #26..you mean the album's spot on the UK charts? i saw a UK chart this a m...that listed it at #26...and remember its stiffest competition at the time? madonna's new album? well...it's at #39 now...according to the chart ..so...a big...SO THERE..I'D say...lol...

tink...XO

[cerysmeatloaf]

im confussed i have both the red and blue cover chsib albums but i carnt see the difference just to let you know i got the red cover one off cd wow
it was imported and it was only £8.99 INC DELEVERY

[mariella]

I have to admit, I have only emailed a few radiostations. :oops:
Been to a concert this weekend and preparing for that took more time than I expected. Came home (a little :lol: ) later than expected too...

Was very confused when to start this UK-campaign in the first place. Got THAT figured out now!

Still not 'quite among the living, yet' :lol:

Tomorrow seems like a good day for me to 'get in the water with Caryl'!!

THIS is happening now! The US-campaign will have my full attention in a few weeks time. Starting tomorrow, I am mailing these UK stations. matter of priorities for me.

Love you all!

Mariella

[Dave]

THIS is happening now! The US-campaign will have my full attention in a few weeks time.

Awesome! Keep the troops working on the front lines while others of us are working on firming up the flanks for round #2 of the battle of getting Meat to #1!

It is going to take massive efforts to get Meat Loaf the attention he needs and deserves here in the US. That is why I am starting to work now on developing all the "backbone" work

Also, UK markets tend to "track" requests very closely. I have a friend who works for Clear Channel (one of the major owners of radio stations in America), and his job is to weed out what they call "bulk requests" for artists. I know the local Clear Channel station filters requests based on I.P. addresses.

*sigh*

[sherrie87]

David said:
Also, UK markets tend to "track" requests very closely. I have a friend who works for Clear Channel (one of the major owners of radio stations in America), and his job is to weed out what they call "bulk requests" for artists. I know the local Clear Channel station filters requests based on I.P. addresses.


David,

The vast majority of my local stations are Clear Channel. Are you saying by this that EACH station checks IP's or that a local group of stations will? I am planning to email (from two seperate IP's - work and home)each the week before, on the 15th, and weekly afterwards, I don't believe this would be seen as bulk, unless they are tracking for the whole area of Clear Channel stations. I just wanted to clarify how locally they may be tracking IPs, if you could shed some light.
Thanks
Sherrie

[Testify]

wheres the email addresses for radio stations in UK? or isnt there one??

[mariella]

Testify, all the info is on page 1 of this topic, Caryl put the link to ROL there. You will find ALL you need there. Happy mailing to you!

Love,

Mariella

[Testify]

thankyou!!

have a nice day as u say!! :P

[Diane]

The new test pressing for the "CHSIB" single in the UK has the following 3 edits:

1. New edit - 3 mins. 52 secs.
2. Short radio edit - 4 mins. 27 secs.
3. Long radio edit - 5 mins. 21 secs.

It looks possible that the relaunched "CHSIB" single could feature a new edited version. The release date on the custom printed sleeve is given as the 14th July.

[CarylB]

Good Lord .. promotional test press being auctioned on eBay already!!

[Diane]

Hardly surprising really considering Mercury sent out DJ copies for the relaunch, reservice or whatever it is over 2 weeks ago! :wink:

[original sin]

well, curiouser and curiouser!

i've just returned from the town and neither my local HMV or local Independant stockist have any information on this relaunched/reseviced/rere-eased single. They have a singles release listing upto 17/7/03 and it aint there!

Wonder when we can expect the "formal" promotion to start? August?

[cerysmeatloaf]

i went to core fresh hits a dab radio station and they still dont have meatloaf in there playlist

[CarylB]

I gave my next door neighbour a copy of Meat's single back in May. Yesterday was the school Summer Fete, so she opened the proceedings with CHSIB :)) And she hadn't realised that her CD player was set to auto-repeat .. so all afternoon Meat was blasting out over that corner of Sheffield.

The first blast of the first play caused one woman to drop her cup of tea .. :) .. and all afternoon the kids (6-10) were coming up asking Linda who the singer was. Some had heard of Meat, some hadn't. Those who hadn't asked how old he was .. "oh very old .. same age as me!" she said "He's been a hit singer for years" Interestingly most said "Oh he can't be old, Miss .. The song's just like the ones we listen to" .. and some of the musical ones even went as far as saying that the beat and tempo, the words and music were exactly what they'd expect from a top pop song today .. And all afternoon people were asking who the singer was .. "Meat Loaf? Really??" and Linda was telling and selling .. "It's his brand new single .. and it's on his new album!!"

Oh .. and in Tesco the album is moving up their chart again :)) And perhaps will edge further given the number of people who asked about the album and were told bu Linda to go to Tesco!! :))

[Lady B]

Oh Caryl, the things we WON'T do for the man . . . :lol:

I already shared this on list but will share here just 'cuz it made for a fun afternoon.

Every year the BIG todo here is the Greeley Independence Stampede. Rodeos, concerts, carnival rides, pork chops on a stick . . . you name it. Working at a radio station gives you some fun and sometimes unique opportunities to promote. Altho' I work for a country station I had the chance to work at the booth of one of our sister stations yesterday that plays classic rock. Talk about a blast! People walking by catching themselves dancing and singing along with the stuff we grew up with like Foghat, AC/DC, etc. I got the chance to talk to people and kind of name drop to find out their tastes in music (without being pushy) and man the looks on the faces when Meat's name came up! Of course, far be it from me to casually mention that he has a new CD due out in September and an appearance on Good Morning America in mid August to promote the new single that comes out. "Oh, and did you know he's in concert next month?"

I got the PD to play a song as well. I told him that if I'm working out there at their booth I need to hear SOMEthing Meat Loaf. And after he stopped laughing (he knows I'm a fan and I had shared some info for them to use) he said he'd get something on before I got done. About 15 min before I left he said he had something coming up from Meat Loaf so I ran out front to the the speakers. Talk about strange looks from people! Here I was dancing and singing along to "Paradise" and having a blast! The vendors next to me knew I was waiting for a song and just laughed and shook their heads at me. There were a few people who even stopped to enjoy it with me too.

Just had to share because I had such a fun afternoon promoting the man . . . er . . . um . . . the radio station. Yea, I'm there for the radio station. :lol:

Lady B

[cerysmeatloaf]

hey thats cool more ppl are getting to like him

[Lady B]

Don't know that it's so much newer fans but reminding those that just needed the reminder. LOL

One of our interns is a Meat fan and I've got her into all the promoting too. She borrowed my copy of DIST to plug into her radio show on the campus station and she knows a bunch of other ML fans.

The Army grows and as Meat said

"The train is rolling . . . ."

Lady B

[sherrie87]

Caryl B said:
and all afternoon the kids (6-10) were coming up asking Linda who the singer was.

My son is on the low end of the that age range, and he absolutley can't get enough of CHSIB. (I'm training him right! :lol: ) In fact, we are leaving on a 22 hour car trip on Tuesday morning and the first thing he made sure was in the car is "that blue Meat Loaf CD". There is just something about that song (and Testify, I think too) that just appeals to everyone, whatever their age.


Sherrie

[CarylB]

All CHSIB needs for people of all ages to want to buy it is exposure! .. It isn't some noisy cacophony of beat and noise that would be played in the clubs .. which is why it needs airtime on the radio .. and needs to be on the playlists of a wider selection of radio stations than it is ..

I do hope Party in the Park will bring it to the ears of a wider audience (feel sorry for David Sneddon if he has to follow Meat like Gareth Gates did on the Lottery Show!! .. lol) And it's worth trying to get it played at every opportunity where he can reach a few more potential converts who might otherwise miss out! :)

[Puritan]

feel sorry for David Sneddon if he has to follow Meat like Gareth Gates did on the Lottery Show!! .. lol

Wondering if you might be getting your Sneddon and Gates mixed up - easy thing to do though :)

I too hope it promotes Meat to a wider audience. Having watched the preview on Channel 5 on Saturday it certainly to me appeared to be a very "teenage" thing. Anyway it's a charity event so I won't be "knocking it" whatever and if some youngsters buy the new album the following week then that's a bonus

[ChrisBelfast]

Why we need to do all we can -

1 - The album had many different release dates chopping and changing
2 - The single had many different release dates chopping and changing
3 - The single comes out, little warning, no PR other than Meat himself
4 - The single comes out, little warning, no PR other than Meat himself
5 - The album does brilliantly at #4 although the single gets to 31 because no one can find it in any shops
6 - Testify is to be next single but that lasts for about a week
7 - Mercury asks for fans input
8 - Mercury changes single to a re-releae of CHSIB, with the album out 3 months already a second single will only be released in IN NOVEMBER!
9 - Meat continues to add dates to an already/sold out world tour as more and more people want tickets - the people are out there so wheres the 'cd's and singles'???? 40,000 people in ireland will see Meat Loaf live alone, so how did Mercury think 6,000 copies would cover the whole UK
10 - Someone just asked me what meats world tour was in aid off - was it to say farewell? Person unawre there is a new album out!??

BY NOVEMBER THE UK WILL HAVE HAD THE ALBUM FOR NEARLY 7 MONTHS AND MERCURY DECIDE TO RELEASE A SECOND SINGLE FROM IT THEN????

Virgin did such a marvelous job on Bat 2, even when meat released "Is nothing sacred" here in the UK at the time of the greatest hits, i recall seeing TV ads for it and posters up in the shops for both album and single!!??? UK music magazines have adverts for Bat 1 25th Anniversary in them but not for CHSIB and both were released here in UK a week apart from each other!

[CarylB]

Chris said:
6 - Testify is to be next single but that lasts for about a week
7 - Mercury asks for fans input
8 - Mercury changes single to a re-releae of CHSIB, with the album out 3 months already a second single will only be released in IN NOVEMBER!


As far as Testify being the "next single" I saw nothing from Meat or any official source saying this would be the case. I passed on information given to me by Mercury's Product Manager which was "the title for the new single is to be decided (not Testify)" Whether this means it has not been decided that it will be Testify, or that they have not decided yet, is open to interpretation. Only they and Meat will have the answer.

I'm as critical as anyone of Mercury's failings, but I must point out a couple of things.

Mercury asked for fans' input for the next single release IN NOVEMBER. They did NOT change this single release to a re-release of CHSIB. You may recall that Meat said on April 26:

WE are going to re-release the single with a new mix in a few weeks here in the UK ...


All that was promised was a re-release with a new mix .. and that seems to be what is about to happen .. although I cannot for the life of me see why it should have a mid-July date by which time Meat will have returned to the US .. but I digress.

I made it clear that the survey was for the release of a new single in November, which timing seems entirely appropriate given the UK leg of the tour runs Nov/Dec.

[ChrisBelfast]

As for where the idea of Testify becomming the new single came from:

the newboard posted:

10th Street Entertainment (Meat's management) have confirmed that "Because Of You" will be the new single in Germany and Holland, and that "Testify" will be released in the UK. The video situation is being worked on right now. No release dates are fixed yet.
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What i am trying to say Caryl is that by november, CHSIB will be 7 months old and have only 2 singles released from it, one of which was a complete mess up.

[DazLoaf01]

Will a new video be shot for the re-launch of CHSIB?

[CarylB]

Bat Out of Hell asked:
Will a new video be shot for the re-launch of CHSIB?

I know where the smart money is .. I wouldn't put even half a loafdom dollar on it!! :|)

[sherrie87]

BOOH said:Will a new video be shot for the re-launch of CHSIB?

I can't imagine why one would be- number one, it isn't likely that the record company would put out the cash for a second video when one already exists and secondly, the current video is absolutely rockin', why mess with a good thing? :lol:

Sherrie

[Testify]

couldn't have said it better myself!! :D

[mariella]

Yes Sherrie, never mess with a good thing. I LOVE that video!

love,

Mariella

[Diane]

As far as Testify being the "next single" I saw nothing from Meat or any official source saying this would be the case. I passed on information given to me by Mercury's Product Manager which was "the title for the new single is to be decided (not Testify)" Whether this means it has not been decided that it will be Testify, or that they have not decided yet, is open to interpretation. Only they and Meat will have the answer.

I'm as critical as anyone of Mercury's failings, but I must point out a couple of things.

Mercury asked for fans' input for the next single release IN NOVEMBER. They did NOT change this single release to a re-release of CHSIB. You may recall that Meat said on April 26:

WE are going to re-release the single with a new mix in a few weeks here in the UK ...


All that was promised was a re-release with a new mix .. and that seems to be what is about to happen .. although I cannot for the life of me see why it should have a mid-July date by which time Meat will have returned to the US .. but I digress.

I made it clear that the survey was for the release of a new single in November, which timing seems entirely appropriate given the UK leg of the tour runs Nov/Dec.

It was confirmed to me by 10th Street Entertainment on the 30th May that "Because Of You" would be the next single in Germany and that "Testify" would be released in the UK.

In a conversation with Mercury's Product Manager on the 17th June he told me that "Testify" would not now be the next single and that they were re-launching "CHSIB". No release date was known at that time.

The information I posted here came from official sources.

[CarylB]

----- Original Message -----
From: Cawley, Clive
To: 'Caryl Burton'
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: Meat Loaf on-line Survey URGENT


Hi Caryl,

The info we requested is for the next proper commercial release single which will possily be TBC (but NOT Testify) and released in November, thats why we need the info, we couldn't physically turn around a single with the info you're providing, so it'll be used for the future single.

as for now we're re-servicing "Couldn't have said it better" to radio & TV and the existing single is still available to order.

Cheers
Clive

As indeed did mine :)

[Diane]

As indeed did mine :)

Never doubted it Caryl. :) Just thought I should clarify the information I posted came from official sources too.

[original sin]

Anyone? where did the release date of the 14th July come from? because I cannot confirm this with any record shops. :?

[Diane]

Anyone? where did the release date of the 14th July come from? because I cannot confirm this with any record shops. :?

It's the date printed on the custom cover of the test pressing of the re-edited single. :)

[original sin]

It's the date printed on the custom cover of the test pressing of the re-edited single. :)

OK, Thanks, I'm just concerned that the shops that are going to be stocking this don't seem to know about it!!! Maybe things will start kicking off from Friday with all his appearances :lol: Here's hoping, still he can aways hire another bus!

[Diane]

OK, Thanks, I'm just concerned that the shops that are going to be stocking this don't seem to know about it!!!

Hmmm sounds all too familiar. :angry:

This is the information printed on the "CHSIB" single new edit test pressing sleeve:

Following his recent Top 10 GOLD album of the same name & sales of 50 million albums including the 5th biggest selling album of all time, Mercury Records will make this brand new edit available to coincide with the great man's UK visit in early July. Meat Loaf will then return again for a full UK Arena tour in November - already 150,000 tickets sold! Produced by Peter Mokran (Backstreet Boys, Flaming Lips, R. Kelly etc.).

NEW DATE: 14 JULY

[Bart]

WoW! :D

[ChrisBelfast]

thanks for clearing that up Diane, much much appreciated. Have you just saw the sleeve or have you heard the new edit. If you have whats different etc?

[DazLoaf01]

BOOH said:Will a new video be shot for the re-launch of CHSIB?

I can't imagine why one would be- number one, it isn't likely that the record company would put out the cash for a second video when one already exists and secondly, the current video is absolutely rockin', why mess with a good thing? :lol:

Sherrie

Don't get me wrong - I love the video! I only thought that they might make a new once with all this talk re-releasing the single as a remix, therfore the new soundtrack my not fit the existing visuals!

[cerysmeatloaf]

ok i just need to know has the re realse of chsib in the shops cos i carnt find in in my town

[Kev]

it is supposed to be monday... seems like it has flopped though...

[cerysmeatloaf]

any one know where i can get a copy of it

[mariella]

I think the single won't be in the shops until Monday the 14th.

Great day to you,

Mariella

[Kev]

I think the single won't be in the shops until Monday the 14th.

Great day to you,

Mariella

thats what i said :p

[original sin]

Shame the shops don't know about it thou' aint it? After all if they don't know they don't order, if they don't order it don't go on the shelves, if it don't go on the shelves it don't sell, if it don't sell it don't make the charts.

[Asha]

Impacable logic.

well said Mrs spock!j/k

Asha