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White of High
11 Jun 2003, 12:38
This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!

Why Isn't That Enough? (6)

I have ambivalent emotions with it. Sometimes I like it sometimes do not. I have to say the lyrics is too simple. You can find some parts from Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad. I don't know why but I don't like that song too. Sometimes I think the melody is good and after I think it's forced. CHSIB and DIST are better... it's sure!

My score: 6


Average: 8.21 (213.4/26)

Testify
11 Jun 2003, 12:54
i give it an 8 cos i like this one.

Bart
11 Jun 2003, 17:09
it is one of the best. the vocal part in the middle is tremendous. 9/10

mariella
11 Jun 2003, 19:56
I agree, one of the best!

9,5/10

Mariella

QT
11 Jun 2003, 19:58
I like this song

I give it an 7!

Garrett
11 Jun 2003, 20:58
One of the worst songs on CHSIB and even one of the worst songs of Meat ever. The lyrics is too simple and the melody doesn't sound good. I don't like it. It sounds like an ordinary mainstream ballad from an average boygroup.

4/10

Sapphire Lady
11 Jun 2003, 22:09
I'm with Garrett on this one.

5/10 max

Puritan
12 Jun 2003, 10:11
I think this is one of the better ballads on the album. I do have a bit of a problem with the similarities to "Two Out Of Three" - it certainly would appear to have been inspired by that song. That of course is not necessarily a bad thing - after all Jim admitted in a Bat Out Of Hell documentary that Two Out Of Three itself was inspired by the Elvis Classic "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You"

I'll give it 8/10

Sue K
12 Jun 2003, 11:06
oh..i think it's a LOVerly song...one that makes me hit the repete button...a very...oriental/asian sound to it...methinks...i can picture him walking thru one of those japanese gardens...know the kind i mean? and then...i hear the waves gently coming onto the shore...yass..a japanese garden near the ocean...it flows...loverly...

i give it..a 10...

tink...XO

Bart
12 Jun 2003, 15:31
it sounds like a marco borsato song. Meat knows him from the notp tour.

ChrisBelfast
12 Jun 2003, 16:38
7.5

I'm torn over this one though.
It took me a while to like it but now i really do. It starts very slow but about 1/2 way mark it speeds up and meat raises his voice and starts shouting, this has emosion and is by far the best part of the song. I find myself starting it from about 1/2 way in..... if only the whole song was like this. Anyone agree about the 2nd half being better?
I think if anyone else had to sing this song it would be poor. Due to the simplicty etc of lyrics and tune it really needed meats passion and energy.

heat
12 Jun 2003, 17:22
I really really like this one - one of the better ones on CHSIB.

8.5/10

Heat
xxx

Michel
12 Jun 2003, 19:33
Not the best lyrics. Good music. Not my favourite song, but it isn't that bad.

My score: 5

cerysmeatloaf
12 Jun 2003, 20:15
i like it a lot the lyrics are grate and you can really get in to it i give it

9/10

Taipan
12 Jun 2003, 23:33
for me, this song is the other person in 2 outta 3 - it's the person who gets dumped, but they're asking, why isn't that enough? people complain that it's similar, but to me, that's the idea! a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something...

7/10

sherrie87
13 Jun 2003, 01:38
Taipan said:
a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something...


I think that slight bit of strain in his voice makes the song more powerful and emotional, I actually like it.

Sherrie

Vickip
13 Jun 2003, 03:00
Taipan said:
a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something...


I think that slight bit of strain in his voice makes the song more powerful and emotional, I actually like it.

Sherrie

I feel exactly the same way Sherrie ....
and I have to agree with tink and give it a 10/10

Vicki

Sue K
13 Jun 2003, 09:25
and on third thought..and after many listens yesterday..when i said..re: the ocean...gently laps at the shore? the build up ends up sounding like crashes..during the musical ...interlude...or whatever..i can picture Meat...up on the rocks... looking out to sea..yasss..that's what i kept seeing....

now i'll have to go back and see what these cracks are all are talking about...tough job ...but SOMEbody has to do it...

tink..bidding all a good morning...XO

Sapphire Lady
13 Jun 2003, 09:39
for me, this song is the other person in 2 outta 3 - it's the person who gets dumped, but they're asking, why isn't that enough?

The person singing 2 out of 3 was dumped a long time ago and is in a new relationship which he can't commit to 100% because his heart still belongs to the woman who dumped him.

In Why Isn't That Enough I don't think it's entirely clear whether the person singing is being dumped or is doing the dumping because the relationship just isn't working anymore. You could interpret it either way.

It's certainly a very sad song and not one you'd want to be listening to when things aren't going well between you + your partner.

Sue K
14 Jun 2003, 03:04
i seems to me..that this is being sung by the person..dumped...and they have no idea why...after...they expressed..didn't they..that they want the other ...need the other..and love the other...however..they are missing...something..but they don't know what...

perhaps...they would do anything for love..but take out the garbage..as Meat joked at the grammy announcements...lol...

perhaps they didn't show the other person that they appreciated them...but whatever made the other go away...the dumpee...just doesn't understand..

that's my take...

tink..XO

Vickip
14 Jun 2003, 03:12
i seems to me..that this is being sung by the person..dumped...and they have no idea why...after...they expressed..didn't they..that they want the other ...need the other..and love the other...however..they are missing...something..but they don't know what...

perhaps...they would do anything for love..but take out the garbage..as Meat joked at the grammy announcements...lol...

perhaps they didn't show the other person that they appreciated them...but whatever made the other go away...the dumpee...just doesn't understand..

that's my take...

tink..XO

I Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself tink :)
Vicki xo

evil nickname
14 Jun 2003, 14:45
To me, this soung is about someone who realizes that the end of their releation is near, because the 'other party' does not seem to love the main character anymore. He does not want to let her go, because he still loves her, but because he does, he does not want to make her unhappy and realizes its better for both of them to let her go.
Musically I'm not all that convinced, but its still a good song. I could have done without the female choir though.

Not as good as the previous tracks, but there are worse songs on the album. I'd give it a 7.5 out of 10.

Sue K
14 Jun 2003, 14:58
ahh..evil..you just me go back and read the words...and that last bit...you know that i want you..etc...

then...so why isn't that enough?... that's where i thought...perhaps...the person doesn't understand why...but then the FINAL line is...

i wish that it was enough... do i sense a bit of selfishness here...that the person wants that to be enough ..and not have to do any more than that....

or...is the person incapable of doing more??

hmmm...

tink...XO

evil nickname
14 Jun 2003, 15:31
Or the "I wish it was enough" line is to indicate that he has accepted the situation, and he sees he can't change what happens, but still wishes that wanting, needing and loving her was enough to make her stay...

Like:

"You know I want you
You know I need you
You know I love you, baby
But why isn't that enough to make you stay?
You got the full three out of three, and still you want more?
You may want more, but I wish that all that I gave you was enough to make you stay..."

my €0.02

TeamNZfan
15 Jun 2003, 05:09
Although I love the hard/loud rock songs Meat does so well, I think his voice shows its true beauty in the slow ballads and this song shows his voice to superb affect. While the lyric maybe simple, it is one that I can relate to so well. Reading the posts above, it was interesting to think of the song from the view of the man being dumped. I had always taken it from the view that "he loved her, needed her ... and he wished that was enough".

I would give this one 10/10

White of High
15 Jun 2003, 12:24
Why isn't that enough 10/10

Then this vote is here!
But Meat will vote his all songs 10 I give up this topic! :lol:

An yes!
Meat is visting TT&BH section!
Hey Mr. Loaf!
I'd like you give us professional analysis about your songs!

Bren
15 Jun 2003, 12:37
Ilove this song.It's my favourite on CHSIB.The first time i listened to the album, this was the one that stood out, it's beautiful.Whilst i love and appreciate the whole range of styles of songs Meat does ,it is in the slower, quieter ballads that you can really appreciate the beauty of his voice. Why Isn't That Enough is simply beautiful.Some of you say the lyrics are simple but they are beautiful in their simplicity.

"I don't know how i can do this
What am i supposed to say?
You have been my dream for so long
Now that dream is slipping away..."

Beautiful
Idon't go in for pulling a song apart and analysingthe lyrics bit by bit,though from my own point of view the more poetic the lyrics are the more i like them. (hopeless romantic!) i prefer to look at a song as a whole.
This one is just lovely.

10/10

Sue K
15 Jun 2003, 14:53
BREN!

have to use what has become the latest meatie cliche'/response...lol...

CHSIBM... :-) ...

loverly review...

tink...XO

Vickip
15 Jun 2003, 17:52
BREN!

have to use what has become the latest meatie cliche'/response...lol...

CHSIBM... :-) ...

loverly review...

tink...XO

You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth tink :-)

Vicki xo

dottie
15 Jun 2003, 18:21
Love this song - but still feels like it belongs in a musical of some sort 8/10

Fire Ball
15 Jun 2003, 19:40
Bottom Line one of the best 10/10

M

heat
15 Jun 2003, 19:43
Bottom Line one of the best 10/10

M

Does that mean you is gonna do it live, Meat??? :D

Vickip
15 Jun 2003, 19:44
Bottom Line one of the best 10/10

M

I Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself Meat :))
Vicki

badger
03 Jul 2003, 00:59
I have to admit I am a bit of a sucker for Meat ballads. It is very simple, but I think that is a good thing, making it seem very pure emotion.

I love all the sounds layered in the background (good ol headphones :) ). i agree with tink about the oriental sound.

It is also in a perfect place after the powerful CHSIB and DIST. Always going to be an album track, but a beautiful one at that.

A haunting:

8/10

RSG
21 Oct 2003, 01:39
Well up front 11\10. now why....

This is an amazing track, I can't believe it, I love it so much. I want it (well I have it) I need it (I'll play it now!) I Love it, why?

Because, this is full power, I find it has more power than Anything For Love, the middle is what inspired me the most about it. I'm glad its here. Fireball, I don't if you take fan's opinions in consideration, but I have to say I LOVE THIS SONG. Your words, your voice is so fanfvckingtastic. I love the middle, thats what made me like it the most! Go you, I love this record more than any of them, is it better than BOOH. Well gimme another month or so, and I will have a true opinion. Great job! I'd love to see you in concert, Saint John, NB, Canada. I missed you the first time. My aunt saw you, along with my uncle, who well got kicked out for sing Bat Out Of Hell to the top of his lungs and jumping up and down. and well they kicked him out. :lol: Believe me, he tried to get back in.

***A little reccomendation for anyone that gave it lower than an 8***
I like the words, and songs aren't always about the words, its about the emotion you reflect from it, and that song, has an undescribable emotion.
Am I sounding too overrated, my opinon, hell no 8)

Now I'm sorry I forgot your name :oops: but someone on this forum did a perfect review on this record, I will get her name when I get back from the party tonight, but if you play this song loud, and I mean really loud, you will feel the feelings in this song. Its perfect its great its excellent, and it is definetly (quoteing Fireball) ONE OF THE BEST!!!!! sorry for the yelling, but this song like all the songs on this record are truely beautiful, hard rockin pieces. Definetly a STAND OUT!!!!! :D 8O :P Meat knows it, I know it, You know it, and if you don't know it, KNOW IT :D 8) Because its fantastic :)

Quigmo
25 Oct 2003, 13:04
Here is a song that just jumped right out of the speakers at me. Such increadable emotion is captured here. Just hope you never have to live this song cause it will rip you apart. Meat has captured this before in his songs. He does it once again and this one hits even deeper. Not quite "For Crying Out Loud", but damn close.
10.9/10

Louise
13 Nov 2003, 16:26
I didn't like this song much at first, but now it's growing on me! :lol:

Louise x

Debbi V
13 Nov 2003, 16:37
That's exactly how I felt about this song, Louise!! Hate to admit, my first few plays of the CHSIB CD included a skip at the intro of , but then I let it play.

Hmmm, I thought, not too bad! Then it grew on me and has become a favorite on the drive to work in the morning.

8/10

Debbi V

PanicLord
13 Nov 2003, 19:32
I started off on this a bit slow too, but now I agree with you, it is damn fine! 8.5/10!

Lauren
23 Nov 2003, 00:03
for me, this song is the other person in 2 outta 3 - it's the person who gets dumped, but they're asking, why isn't that enough?
not thought about it like that but you're right - i love this one 9/10

LostSoul
28 Dec 2003, 06:22
To me, this soung is about someone who realizes that the end of their releation is near, because the 'other party' does not seem to love the main character anymore. He does not want to let her go, because he still loves her, but because he does, he does not want to make her unhappy and realizes its better for both of them to let her go.

I agree with you analysis... but I do like this song a lot!

What intrigues me is the fact that "Why Isn't That Enough" is between "Did I Say That" and "Love You Out Loud" but before "Man Of Steel"...???

For me, it's more obvious to list it like this:

2. Did I Say That
3. Why Isn't That Enough
4. Man Of Steel
5. Love You Out Loud

:??: :??: :??:

8/10

Have to edit my post:
Just forget what I wrote about the track list !!!! I've just GOT IT! I'VE JUST GOT IT! :oops:

RadioMaster
08 Jul 2006, 20:06
A typical ballad, but good.
To me it looks like it should be some kinda 2oo3 sequel.

I want you, I need you, but there aint no way I´m ever gonna love you...
(he turns to loving her, but now she doesnt want it anymore)
You know that I want you, you know that I need you baby, you know that I love you, so why isnt that enough?

7,5

mszee
08 Jul 2006, 20:10
Good song but somehow sounds a little too needy for my taste...

7/10

sunneke
08 Jul 2006, 22:27
also a great song

Evil One
23 Jan 2007, 23:19
5.

White of High
29 Jan 2007, 00:40
Average: 7.96 (230.9/29)