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eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
01 Jun 2010, 20:10
i baught this meat loaf gold disc whith my xmas money and i have to say it is the best thing i have baught

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq257/bedrock_ent/meatloafgolddisc.jpg

what do u think of it it cost me 110 and i hope it goes up in value in years to come lol

Evil One
01 Jun 2010, 20:10
Play it and see what it sounds like! :twisted:

A Slice Of English
01 Jun 2010, 20:20
Yikes, I've seen things like that on Ebay and they always make me cringe.

evil nickname
01 Jun 2010, 20:56
i hope it goes up in value in years to come lol

That should be a given. I mean, wow. Six tracks on one side? If that isn't some mighty special edition of Bat, I'm the pope. ;-)

Monstro
01 Jun 2010, 20:56
i have to say it is the best thing i have baught



There ya go, you're happy, nowt else matters!

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
01 Jun 2010, 21:19
i got it from this companey on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MEATLOAF-Cd-Gold-Disc-Record-Ltd-Edition-COA-/290374165516?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item439ba6240c

A Slice Of English
01 Jun 2010, 21:24
Yeah, you see these "Collectable's" sites often prey on the unwary. If you like what you got then great, but a true Gold disc should be a replica of the original LP, not just a blank LP that has been electroplated with the Meat Loaf banner name stuck on the middle somehow. They look ok, but they are cheap imitations of the real thing, designed to get the company maximum profit from a minimum outlay.

But like was said above, if you like it then more power to you, I say.

Pudding
01 Jun 2010, 23:16
not just a blank LP that has been electroplated with the Meat Loaf banner name stuck on the middle somehow.

The LP shows 5 tracks on that side, who owns a BAT album with 5 tracks on one side? The centre looks like a Bat CD to me :shrug:

So long as eddy is happy with it is the main thing, the phrase 'ripped off' and not the genuine article springs to my mind though.

AndrewG
01 Jun 2010, 23:37
You can get that ten pounds cheaper from their own website (http://www.everythingcollectible.com/item-10330-MEATLOAFCDGOLDDISCPHOTODISPLAYLTDEDITIONCOAALBUMBATOUTOFHELL.php) by the looks of it (including UK postage). They are obviously not wanting to lose a penny out on the PayPal and listing charges.

Indeed it doesn't look like the LP is the genuine deal like these ones do:
A one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MEATLOAF-LP-24-carat-Gold-disc-cover-presentation-/200429381366?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2eaa85a6f6#ht_599wt_913), and a two (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MEATLOAF-24-Carat-Gold-Disc-LP-BAT-OUT-HELL-/200436318521?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2eaaef8139#ht_504wt_913).

In either case all of them are decent nice displays I guess, but for 100+ I managed to get 8 different displays (albeit smaller but still nice and interesting) from Springsteen/Meat and Imogen Heap in my studio. Whatever one think it's worth I guess. :shrug:

I definitely wouldn't buy such items with the intent to finding out if it is worth more in the future. I collect enough stuff just thinking for today as it is.

CarylB
01 Jun 2010, 23:46
There ya go, you're happy, nowt else matters!

Yes, you love it? That's what counts! Enjoy :)

Caryl

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
02 Jun 2010, 00:11
i soppose my hctb cd is worth more what i got of play.com its hand signed by meat loaf

Wario
02 Jun 2010, 01:26
i soppose my hctb cd is worth more what i got of play.com its hand signed by meat loaf

That it is.

Still in search of a bad Attitude gold disk display :(

if you read the description it doesn't claim to be authentic, just it looks great on walls.

wolfy35
02 Jun 2010, 01:46
You have to ask yourself what you want with things like this.

Do you want a replica gold disc or do you just want something that looks nice to hang on yr wall.

Must admit it does look reasonably nice so if yr happy thats all that matters but I do feel sorry for the gullable fools who buy one like the really poor ones that were being touted when HCTB forst came out ( You know the ones I mean, The ones that had a blown up thumbnail of the album cover accompanied by a gold colured disc etched with a really bad copy of Bat 1 artwork and were advertised as "Genuine" gold discs)

Pudding
02 Jun 2010, 02:46
Still in search of a bad Attitude gold disk display :(

I could probably knock one up for less than 10 for you and then charge you 100 if you like ;)

Sarge
02 Jun 2010, 07:28
The most funny Meat Loaf "collectible" I've ever seen was a Blind Before I Stop "platinum" LP "award". :))

BoyBehindBars
02 Jun 2010, 21:59
does anyone of you collects real gold and platinum awards ?

The Flying Mouse
02 Jun 2010, 22:29
does anyone of you collects real gold and platinum awards ?

:twisted: As opposed to cardboard? :lol:

I have a Hits Out Of HEll one that is simalar to the one in this thread (looks nice on the wall :shrug: ), and I have an official limited edition gold Bat Out Of Hell.

If you mean REAL real, i'e the ones that were given to Meat, i'd only be collecting those after a veryt big lottery win :faint:

Monstro
02 Jun 2010, 22:35
If you mean REAL real, i'e the ones that were given to Meat, i'd only be collecting those after a veryt big lottery win :faint:

I got one lol (WTTN)

AndyK
02 Jun 2010, 23:14
I've managed to lay my hands on a gold BooH RIAA award and gold Bad Attitude BPI award, along with multi-platinum Bat II albums and AFL single awards over the years. Nice collection additions but I really need more wall space. :s

Monstro
02 Jun 2010, 23:18
Must admit the only ones I've bought are recognised industry ones

snowy
03 Jun 2010, 00:21
My husband bought me this for my birthday back in October (No.3 of 50 apparently). I realised that the disk wasn't original - showing 6 tracks instead of 5 - but I haven't had the heart to tell him. It is up on the wall in our living room and I do love it despite the fact it is not genuine.

On the up-side, my neighbour saw it the other day and on finding out I was a fan he gave me his spare red BOOH LP to add to my collection! Now I just have to figure out how to frame that.

Wario
03 Jun 2010, 01:09
wonder when teh HCTB gold disk will come out

MeatGrl1
03 Jun 2010, 05:33
I don't like it personally but if it makes you happy and floats your boat then that's all that matters :lol: !!

Pudding
03 Jun 2010, 06:46
wonder when teh HCTB gold disk will come out

I'll knock one up this weekend ;)

AndyK
04 Jun 2010, 11:04
wonder when teh HCTB gold disk will come out

There was one on ebay the week before the album was released in the UK!

wolfy35
04 Jun 2010, 11:29
wonder when teh HCTB gold disk will come out

I also saw one on ebay a week before it came out. It was SO NASTY was just a gold colured CD with a laser etched version of Bat1 artwork on it ( really poor rendition looked like it had been drawn by a drunken toddler ).
It was in a mount with a copy of HCTB album art that looked like it was a thumbnail that had been blown up to fill space and had a line down one side obviously from a dirty printer head

Biggest laugh was it being on a "Buy it now" at 129.99 and described as a genuine disc that any fan would treasure for life. TBH most fans would have been embarrased even to use it as a coaster

Sarge
04 Jun 2010, 15:19
Biggest laugh was it being on a "Buy it now" at 129.99 and described as a genuine disc that any fan would treasure for life. TBH most fans would have been embarrased even to use it as a coaster

There are fans who just tend to buy something that might look nice on the wall in the living room and who have only little knowledge on what the real treasures are. ;) That's okay but what astonishes me are the ridiculously high prices people often pay for such items. That's why the market is flooded with questionable collectibles.

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
04 Jun 2010, 15:42
ye thats why i got this gold disk of a authtec autograph suppler they sell signed guitars and autographs this companey i got the disk from are regestard collectors

The Flying Mouse
04 Jun 2010, 16:47
this companey i got the disk from are regestard collectors

:twisted: Only goes to prove that only too often, that means nothing at all.

There is nothing official about that disc, and it should only be treated as something that gives personal pleasure.

The reason these are on the market is because of supply and demand.


The actual gold disc awarded to an artist is a one off that will usually be kept be the artist.

Very expensive.

There might be other copies done by the record company that are nearly as desirable, but again, there are only so many to go around.

Expensive.


Then, the artist's management might release a limited edition gold disc (I have the one released by Neverland).

It'll set you back a fair few quid, but you'll still own your very own shirt.

Then at the lower end of the spectrum you have this kind of collectable.
I would term these as (what's know in areas on the military antique trade) a fantasy piece.
Whereas the "fake" is a copy of something that is known to exists, the fantasy piece is something designed to be pleasing on the eye to the collector, but is a design of the makers invention.

That many on these "limited editions" come with a "certificate of authenticity" is hardly helpful to the buyer, and I for one think the manufacture of these things should be regulated much more tightly (that's to say, they should be regulated at all).
It's this certificate which makes the buyer think they are buying something valuable, when in reality it's something that has been run off a printer aimed at making the item more legitamate and desirable.

There is no shortage of them on ebay.I've seen them both is this gold disc type, and framed CD's with artwork.


If looking at the financial investment aspect of a piece (something which I never do) always remember quality over quantity, and whereas an original and unusual piece will slowly grow in value (note the word "slowly" there) a fake or fantasy piece (aka a ~~~~ up job) will plumet in value as soon as you hand your cash over.
It's just a second hand fake.

But the most important thing is buy what you like and like what you buy. :up:

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
07 Jun 2010, 00:08
this came with a certificate of authenticity but its on the back of the gold disc

Pudding
07 Jun 2010, 00:25
Authenticating what exactly? Any chance you giving us the wording?

wolfy35
07 Jun 2010, 10:53
Authenticating what exactly? Any chance you giving us the wording?

Its authentically one that we made

A Slice Of English
07 Jun 2010, 22:04
They usually say "This is number 42 of 100" or similar and then comes with some home-made certificate. They mean jack-squat.

Vickip
07 Jun 2010, 23:39
On the up-side, my neighbour saw it the other day and on finding out I was a fan he gave me his spare red BOOH LP to add to my collection! Now I just have to figure out how to frame that.

I've found frames that are made specifically for hanging LPs in our local craft store and online at amazon.com. Hope that helps !
Vicki

Sarge
09 Jun 2010, 14:36
what do u think of it it cost me 110 and i hope it goes up in value in years to come lol

There is something that I don't understand. You can get a gold disc for a lower price at Meat Loaf's official store, so why buying from eBay and spending that much money on such an item?

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
12 Jun 2010, 14:30
the meat loaf store is all in dollers not pounds and dont know how much things are in pounds and dont know how to order in dollers i dont know why they dont do a uk store with all the same stuff on

A Slice Of English
12 Jun 2010, 14:33
Meatloaf.net has a store in both pounds and dollars.

Sarge
12 Jun 2010, 15:03
Yes, but when you click "UK store" a page of Universal is displayed and they apparently don't offer gold discs. However, with regard to this...

i hope it goes up in value in years to come lol

... I'd favor official merchandise over most of the "collector's items" flogged on eBay. Furthermore, I assume you'd also support your favorite artist if you bought stuff from the official store. ;)

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
12 Jun 2010, 15:22
this is the certifecert

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq257/bedrock_ent/DSCN1207.jpg

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
12 Jun 2010, 15:27
like said before if meat sold his merc on a uk site in pounds then i would buy it

Sarge
12 Jun 2010, 16:16
this is the certifecert

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq257/bedrock_ent/DSCN1207.jpg

Nice. :))

I authenticate that this post was made by Sarge and is Sarge's post # 1.508. Sarge is a proud member of MLUKFC.

Evil One
12 Jun 2010, 16:18
Nowhere on that certificate does it state that it is an official product. I could make you a certificate just like that one. :twisted:

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
12 Jun 2010, 18:54
its like if a well known artist paints a picture of lets say meat loaf ye but the artist paints or dose a limted number of prints its not offical merc but its worth something isant it its only the same if u notice on the actual picture of it thirs a union jack flag on the record and that must indicate if its genuine because the record prouducers have the same logo on thirs i saw one on come dine with me celb and thire was gold disc in sam foxs house and it had unionjack on it

daveake
12 Jun 2010, 19:22
I certify that this post is written in English.

That'll be 50 please :-)

Sarge
12 Jun 2010, 19:31
Yes, if Andy Warhol would have produced a few Meat Loaf prints - those would surely be valuable today. But most of the folks who sell such stuff on eBay are neither well-known nor artists. Check out how many variations of that item are offered and sold. Something that's available to every Tom, Dick and Harry probably won't become a treasure, no matter how many of such certificates it comes along with.

As for the Union Jack and the record producers: I don't see any "presented to..." or the name of the record label on the plaque. It doesn't have a BPI logo either. It says "for sales [...] worldwide".

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
12 Jun 2010, 20:52
bpi logo ?

Sarge
12 Jun 2010, 20:56
If it was an award like those presented to artists, record producers, etc. it would bear the logo of the British Phonographic Industry.

Evil One
12 Jun 2010, 21:12
Eddy, the whole thing was probably knocked up for 30 quid at the most. They've had your pants down. Learn from this and never repeat it.

Sarge
12 Jun 2010, 21:27
Well, if he likes it it's okay but he probably paid too much for it. ;)

P.S.: Even on in-house awards it usually says on the plaque whom they were presented to, by whom and why.

eddy<meat-loaf>rocky
12 Jun 2010, 22:35
my name is martin not eddy the story is eddy from the rocky horror the meat loaf then rocky because iam a fan of rocky horror thats the story of my user name

Pudding
12 Jun 2010, 22:51
You got ripped off mate, but if you're happy with what you got for the price you paid then fair enough. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but don't expect to get your money back if you decide to sell it on ebay at a later date.