3 Bats Live CD to be released...

[Kev]

Just managed to bug the guys at Universal for some information and we've got the track listing and price!

Townsend Records - Meat Loaf (http://www.townsend-records.co.uk/meat+loaf)

No information at the moment about anything else with the cd, but I'll keep on with it.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Finally.... I might have a better quality cd than the audio I ripped from the dvd :-)
Good find. What would we do without you Kev :-)

[meatloaf-unofficial]

PS> Just looked - why aren't they releasing the full lot? but only 10 tracks

[djfierce]

That would take 2 cds.

And the other songs may not be good enough quality to put on there....what works on dvd doesnt always work on audio.

[LucyK!]

Ohh it's on there! :))

I guess this is the tracklist we should have expected, primarily the new Bat III tracks with a few of the old ones thrown in, but in all honestly I really was hoping for the full setlist. Frying Pan was amazing, hearing Land Of The Pigs live completely converted me to that song, Gimme Shelter was brilliant...it could be better but so long as R&R Dreams is on there I'll keep it shut! :p

[RadioMaster]

hmmm.....not so thrilled about the tracklist

if they dont offer anything new (pigs live, unreleased b-sides) or at least put the whole set list on there, i dont see any reason to buy this one.

[LucyK!]

I guess the live Bat III tracks are what's new....

[djfierce]

i honestly don't understand why you were expecting the whole show??

It never happened with Melbourne and it doesnt make financial sense to the record company to produce a double disc.

Also if they were honestly going to only put songs from that one show then not all songs were strong enough for a cd

[LucyK!]

Even if there was no chance of getting the whole show there are songs that were stronger than those on the tracklist...though I guess there's songs that could never be missed out, like Paradise :roll:

[djfierce]

i agree, as i assume we are talking about the exact same versions that appeared on the dvd then, yes i would have left some of those out and put others in, but as you said they needed the right balance of new and old songs. Some that have made it on to this cd i deleted from my rip cd as they didnt sound that great without seeing it too.

[LucyK!]

Some of the songs on there will be spot on - Bad For Good was brilliant, and you all know my opinion on R&R Dreams live - I'm just not sure that that tracklist is a true reflection of what we experienced in May. Not that I won't buy it :lol:

[RadioMaster]

i honestly don't understand why you were expecting the whole show??

It never happened with Melbourne and it doesnt make financial sense to the record company to produce a double disc.

Also if they were honestly going to only put songs from that one show then not all songs were strong enough for a cd

Good point, but for me personally as a buyer, this cd wouldnt have any value, as I could get the same result for free if I just ripped the audio tracks from the dvd.
If it was the whole show, we would have, let's say, a "professional rip", that might have been better than the dvd versions, but this way half of the show (we would get for free by ripping) is missing on this release, so the only reason for me to buy this one, would be if they added something new, like pigs or some of the unreleased b-sides.

short: I dont see any reason for anyone to buy this cd when the dvd with even more tracks is around.

[LucyK!]

Yes but remember that this CD wasn't put together with the knowledge that half of the people who would want it have already ripped the audio from the DVD, as far as they're concerned they're offering you a CD of 10 live tracks that you don't have and can't get elsewhere

[RadioMaster]

yes, but if id have to decide which one to buy, if i saw a cd and a dvd of the same title, but the dvd had twice the number of tracks, I think itd be clear which one id buy.

especially as most people are able to rip the sound off the dvd anyway (with less or more effort lol)

[LucyK!]

If limited to only buying one then the obvious choice is to go for the DVD for twice as many tracks, but again the cd wasn't put together with the thinking that most people can and will rip the audio from the DVD, no one's meant to have done that! :lol:

[djfierce]

I think this may be the reason for the delayed release, so that you dont have to choose which one, personally i dont think you can compare a dvd to a cd :? two completely different experiences...for example take the melbourne dvd and cd, some of the songs on the cd were taken from a different melbourne night than the one that made it to the dvd, there is a reason for that, because one works better being seen than the one that needs to be stronger vocally etc.

Ripping the audio is fine but it will never be as good quality as a cd so i cant really see the fact that some have ripped it affecting the sales too much.

Some vocals on the dvd just arent that great in certain songs and i see at least one on that list, will be interesting to see how good the tweaking is.

And Lucy if your looking for a representation of what we experienced in may i dont feel even the dvd does that, he should have recorded the show at wembley, the show overall was much better imo

[LucyK!]

Of what we each saw in May then I think we're all going to have different ideas of what would truly reflect the tour - for me the second night in Birmingham on May 16th was (in terms of vocals) possibly the most perfect show I have ever seen and I'd love a recording of it...I just think that of the setlist we had here there are songs that were consistantly brilliant which aren't on there

[Evil One]

Bad For Good? That's probably the worst performance on the DVD!

[Sapphire Lady]

Great to see AFL is there :D

I would guess they're trying to keep the cost down by not making it a double CD and including everything.

[evil nickname]

some of the songs on the cd were taken from a different melbourne night than the one that made it to the dvd

Is that so? Never knew.

[LucyK!]

(assuming you're not being sarcastic then...) yes, there were two MSO shows which were picked at to make the DVD and CD.

AFL is probably one of the tracks I'd take off the CD if I'm honest. We've got plenty of live versions of this, the only way I'd choose it for the CD is if it was the updated version that we had from May onwards. The only positive point I can pull from putting AFL on there is that it's a record of the era of Meat performing it with Aspen, which I say with the point of view of a collector rather than thinking about any promotional gain AFL would bring to an album

[djfierce]

such a shame RAH didnt get put on cd :(

[LucyK!]

Couldn't agree more. I guess from "their" point of view there was no point knowing that there was the release of the album, the tour and then a live DVD and CD, but it would have been a fantastic recording

[AndyK]

From my experience, a live recording never truly captures the "being there" experience, rather it serves as a reminder (good or bad) of being there. There's been a number of releases of live shows both on CD and DVD by a number of artists (Meat included) where I can say "I was there" or I was at a show from that tourwhihc was pretty similar, and in all cases the recorded show merely acts a reminder. Personally I'd have preferred to see Gimme Shelter and/or Mercury Blues as the encore tracks on this upcoming CD, but I guess the time available on the CD and the possible quality of the audio recording are the factors here.

[Rickmonster]

Bad For Good? That's probably the worst performance on the DVD!


I very much liked Bad For Good, and preferred it to most if not all of the other tracks.

[evil nickname]

(assuming you're not being sarcastic then...) yes, there were two MSO shows which were picked at to make the DVD and CD.

I knew that there were two different shows used for the DVD (all but the first half of Paradise and all of FCOL comes from the second night), but I never knew that in some cases they used the other night for the CD. I just expected them to be edited versions from the DVD.



As for the DVD, I still don't have a copy (long story), but I'm told that something is being done about that. And although it would be quite easy to rip the soundtrack, I would still need a copy of the CD to keep my collection complete.
Still, I find the tracklisting unimaginative: another version of Paradise, Anything for Love, Rock and Roll Dreams and Bat. While I get that some songs just 'have' to be there, I'd rather have Objects.

[allrevvedup]

I'll save my money...and stick with the dvd...as I say I have a hard time watching the dvd cause of what's happened subsequently, but hey that's just me.

[RadioMaster]

I'd rather have Objects.
agree

[meatloaf-unofficial]

but come on though it would be good to see the cd do well as the dvd did wehn released. It went to Number1 then made it to the top five :-)

[lorenzoduke]

You can't please them all.

[Evil One]

Whoever made that track selection should be shot!

I would have gone for:
Paradise
You Took The Words
Anything For Love
Objects (with the end chopped down a bit)
Rock And Roll Dreams
The Monster Is Loose
If It Ain't Broke
Blind As A Bat
It's All Coming Back
Bat Out Of Hell

The audio of Bad For Good is terrible!

[Evil One]

I knew that there were two different shows used for the DVD (all but the first half of Paradise and all of FCOL comes from the second night), but I never knew that in some cases they used the other night for the CD. I just expected them to be edited versions from the DVD.
You Took The Words and All Revved Up are better on the CD.

[RadioMaster]

Whoever made that track selection should be shot!

I would have gone for:
Paradise
You Took The Words
Anything For Love
Objects (with the end chopped down a bit)
Rock And Roll Dreams
The Monster Is Loose
If It Ain't Broke
Blind As A Bat
It's All Coming Back
Bat Out Of Hell

The audio of Bad For Good is terrible!

maybe theyll edit bfg to something like the bbc "live" session of baab. lol

[dukesofhazard]

I just wish they'd managed to dig up a recording of Land Of The Pigs from one of the other live shows.

Might have been better as 2 Bats as all of the Bat 1 tracks have been released loads of times, when theres only 1 official release with objects & frying pan on, and obviously no other CDs with Bat 3s.

Still buy it though, despite only just ripping all my faves off the DVD and editing them etc ;)

[RadioMaster]

I just wish they'd managed to dig up a recording of Land Of The Pigs from one of the other live shows.


i guess its less a question of "digging them up" than probably some legal issue with the rights to the soundboard recordings. after all theyre still recording every single show, arent they?

[AndrewG]

such a shame RAH didnt get put on cd :(

My thoughts exactly when reading all this. For me that was THE magical show to remember for various reasons and sadly there is no professional release of that, just stuff from what I think was a mediocre show in some random place in Canada.
:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

I still think: Meat Loaf Live at The Royal Albert Hall sounds a lot more intriguing than Meat Loaf Live from London, Ontario, Canada. I mean :wtf:?!

[Evil One]

I bet the soundboards from RAH exist. It wouldn't be that difficult to release a CD.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

I bet the soundboards from RAH exist. It wouldn't be that difficult to release a CD.

eah that would be good idea. I mean I know soundboards can be dodgy sometimes but it would still do a good cd - mermorable concert.

[RadioMaster]

I bet the soundboards from RAH exist. It wouldn't be that difficult to release a CD.
werent there problems with the audio system at rah? not saying thats the reason nothings been released, but maybe thats another problem for producing a cd.

My thoughts exactly when reading all this. For me that was THE magical show to remember for various reasons and sadly there is no professional release of that, just stuff from what I think was a mediocre show in some random place in Canada.
:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

I still think: Meat Loaf Live at The Royal Albert Hall sounds a lot more intriguing than Meat Loaf Live from London, Ontario, Canada. I mean :wtf:?!

you pretty much summed it up there.
Both wembley shows ive seen have been better than 3 bats live, then again, munich a month later wasnt as good as 3 bats, and dortmund in oct didnt even get close to the dvd from ontario.
I guess it's gambling if you pick a good show or not (to record and to attend)

[djfierce]

werent there problems with the audio system at rah? not saying thats the reason nothings been released, but maybe thats another problem for producing a cd.



different people said different things from where they were positioned, personally , i only noticed trouble with the first 2 or 3 songs

[meatloaf-unofficial]

I once heard that the rah show was filmed for the crew - could they not use the sudio from that?

[Evil One]

I think the sound problems at the RAH were more to do with the acoustics of the building than anything else.

[angelica]

I think the sound problems at the RAH were more to do with the acoustics of the building than anything else.

Possibly, but were we were sat it sounded absoulutely fine

[duke knooby]

from where i was there were technical difficulties on a number of songs sound wise... crackling and loss of sound etc

[Paul191]

Short and shitty tracklist. Christ! Objects isn't even there! The robbing ~~~~~~~s. I won't be buying this!

[meatloaf-unofficial]

well from where I was at the show, left hand side of meat in the seats, we had a speaker right behind us and we could hear fine apart from becoming a little deaf :lol: at the end of the show. It would of been great to hear it on a cd, pro release...

I will still buy the new cd, come on its got the live songs on and its another piece to add to the collection..

[Kev]

Kinda interesting, or maybe not... Since all our moaning about the tracklisting, Mercury have removed the listing...

[allrevvedup]

Ya see, protesting does work:D

[RadioMaster]

I feel watched...:bleh:

[LucyK!]

I do feel inclined to blame you RJ... ;)

[AndyK]

Kinda interesting, or maybe not... Since all our moaning about the tracklisting, Mercury have removed the listing...

Is that the track listing they've removed or has the cd been taken off the forthcoming releases list?

[RadioMaster]

I do feel inclined to blame you RJ... ;)

got me, I'm a secret agent from Mercury, but shhhh :bleh:

[LucyK!]

Are you really? Stop pulling bloody releases! :p

[tonyloaf]

hey lucy, i agree with what you say i havent met you but we went to the whole tour aswell and the birm was a great vocal gig close by was newcastle and belfast, nothing can ever beat actully being there live, he's 1 for ya- if you buy the new ipod classic you can put the live dvd on it and watch it and listrn to the audio so you have the whole concert in full(im still buying the live cd tho) lol its just a good way of getting the whole show. tony!

[djfierce]

:lmao:

This is classic lol

1 down 2 to go ;)

we may just see a Meat release this year :?

[RadioMaster]

is it actually down now? or just the tracklist? :?:confused:

[Sapphire Lady]

It's still there (available to preorder) but the tracklist has gone :?

[LucyK!]

Maybe you can pre-order the cd that will have the tracklist that we all picked :lol:

[RadioMaster]

there used to be those make-your-own-compilation (80s, disco, or whatever) offers out there, where you picked a number of tracks that was put on a cd and you could buy it.

now thats an idea, isnt it? :lol:

[djfierce]

Maybe you can pre-order the cd that will have the tracklist that we all picked :lol:


wouldnt it be just novel if they actually took notice of what us meagre fans think ;)

[DazLoaf01]

Get Land Of The Pig on the CD and then we're talking.

[djfierce]

depends if they are only using the songs/versions from the london show though, seems to be that though it may be called 3 bats, it doesnt actually state that the cd recordings are from the dvd show, could they still call it 3 bats if they werent?? I think they might be able but may be wrong i guess ;)

[RadioMaster]

thats the big question....

if they took the tours best performance of every song on that list itd surely be something interesting to buy

[djfierce]

i'd be very keen to buy it then

[RadioMaster]

but somehow i rather see the audio from the dvd to be released.

(a sign for that would be that there hasnt been any official promo or anything so far, we had to get the info from kev. it looks to me a bit like universal was trying to make some extra money with the stuff they already have, on their own, without meat or the management or anyone else involved)

[djfierce]

i'll just get what ends up on the shelf if anything

[LucyK!]

I just want R&R Dreams live on a legal cd!!!

[AndyK]

i'll just get what ends up on the shelf if anything

Careful ... you could end up with something by S-Club 7 ;-)

[duke knooby]

I just want R&R Dreams live on a legal cd!!!

its on the bat out of hell live (with the mso) special edition one

[LucyK!]

I want the 2007 one though, with the extra bit at the end (just to be really fussy!)

[duke knooby]

what extra bit??

[RadioMaster]

what extra bit??

didoodidoo dee dongdongdong, didoodidoo dee dongdongdong

[LucyK!]

The extended ending with the guitars...the bit where the firework things went up

[duke knooby]

oh yes that bit.. (i dont remember it.. is it on the dvd?)

[djfierce]

I want the 2007 one though, with the extra bit at the end (just to be really fussy!)

yeah i love that too :)) reallybrings the song to life



didoodidoo dee dongdongdong, didoodidoo dee dongdongdong

:wtf: name that tune in ...................................................................... .................................

oh forget it ;)

Anyway i'm sure there was a dang somewhere :p

[Evil One]

Rock And Roll Dreams live with the saxophone really is awesome. If only it had the whole of the second verse it would be even better. Does anyone know why Meat decided to drop the 'Once upon a time was a backbeat' part after the Bat 2 tour ended?

[Kev]

The CD isn't being pulled.

It's just they removed the track listing from their sales site.

I'll keep you updated.

I think they've messed up with this, not even the hardcore fans are interested.

[djfierce]

send em a copy of this thread kev lol they might get the hint ;)

[lorenzoduke]

It would certainly be nice if they'd put out something we don't already have. Even a special edition of Bat 3 would be better. Maybe they could actually give it a decent push a second time around.

[Wario]

Bad For Good? That's probably the worst performance on the DVD!

Mabey with the magic of sound mixing the problems in that song are fixed thanks to the record company

Rock And Roll Dreams live with the saxophone really is awesome. If only it had the whole of the second verse it would be even better. Does anyone know why Meat decided to drop the 'Once upon a time was a backbeat' part after the Bat 2 tour ended?

Dunno mabey for the same reason he pulled the second verse of Took the Words and AFL after the Bat II Tour

[meatloaf-unofficial]

The CD isn't being pulled.

It's just they removed the track listing from their sales site.

I'll keep you updated.

I think they've messed up with this, not even the hardcore fans are interested.

Maybe they are reconsidering the tracklisting? Maybe they have been on this site and saw this thread? Its possible... But at least they haven't dropped it.

[djfierce]

Mabey with the magic of sound mixing the problems in that song are fixed thanks to the record company



Or maybe the magic of replacing it with a version from another show would sort it ;)

They could mess around and 'fix' it all they want but the vocals etc will still be the same

[allrevvedup]

reason for releasing it: to get out of the contract the record company has with Meat?

[RadioMaster]

the two more albums thing?

good point.....:sherlock:

[Evil One]

Mabey with the magic of sound mixing the problems in that song are fixed thanks to the record company
Then why not fix it for the DVD too?

[Wario]

Then why not fix it for the DVD too?

That was a mistake on the editors behalf (like on the melburne commentary it cuts off right after OOTFP) and was possibly meant to be corrected. They arn't gonna recall all DVDs for that. Plus with the CD they have a second chance. The could have tried also to extinguish the weird hissing sound in 3 Bats' Frying pan during the "Wonder down the ancient hallway" verse, but Frying Pan didn't make the cut i don't think......

[RadioMaster]

:?

[djfierce]

That was a mistake on the editors behalf

Way too many people approve the cuts before they are sent for release for this to happen, it is not just the editor that checks and approves

[Wario]

Way too many people approve the cuts before they are sent for release for this to happen, it is not just the editor that checks and approves

Mabey it was overlooked .... :|

[RadioMaster]

i guess (or am afraid) they just couldnt make anything better from what they had.

[djfierce]

i guess (or am afraid) they just couldnt make anything better from what they had.

Thats alot more likely....Chris, at least half a dozen people scrutinize this before it gets released so there is very little chance something so glaringly obvious would be overlooked, its not your home made stuff that cost pennies so you dont expect much, too much money goes into that for them to be so laid back about it.

Mike you could be right, maybe Meat doesn't feel like he has many more albums left in him so this may be one way out of it, unless his contract specifies new material which is pretty unlikely i guess, we seem forget sometimes that Meat is a grand old age and realistically not far from the end of his music career.

[Sapphire Lady]

Well I guess this is still on schedule. There's a full page ad on the back cover of the April Classic Rock saying 3 Bats Live coming soon on CD and download :D

[meatloaf-unofficial]

bloomin hell I was lookin at that mag today in WH Smith - how could I off missed it????
(banging my head on a brick wall)

[Kev]

Spoken to Universal and its def coming out, end of March.

[lorenzoduke]

Well I guess this is still on schedule. There's a full page ad on the back cover of the April Classic Rock saying 3 Bats Live coming soon on CD and download :D

Any chance of a scan? :)

[Sapphire Lady]

Any chance of a scan? :)

Sure. It's just the usual pic though.


http://media.mlxxfc.net/CCI02032008_00000.jpg

[Meat Redfish]

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=782637

Track list and more!

[Ma.Ra]

Did they change anything?

[Ma.Ra]

Look what I have found on Amazon, releasing on April 1st:lol:

First it is a audio cd in the search.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-0158878-5127051?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3+bats+live&x=0&y=0

Here it is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/3-Bats-Live-Meat-Loaf/dp/B0013DZAYE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1204539242&sr=8-4
But the tracklist is identically to the DVD.....

[lorenzoduke]

Sure. It's just the usual pic though.


http://media.mlxxfc.net/CCI02032008_00000.jpg

Thanks! :)

[Sapphire Lady]

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=782637

Track list and more!

£8.99 with free delivery - that's a bargain! I've ordered mine from Townsend at £14.49 inc delivery. I guess the smaller suppliers can't compete with the likes of HMV.

[Meat Redfish]

ordered!!!

mineeeeee!!!!!!!!!

:)