88. Bad For Good

White of High · 01 Dec 2006, 18:16

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Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!!

Bad For Good (8)

This song is from 1981. I love this song, I really enjoyed the "God speed - speed us away" part what was always missed by Meat Loaf. In 1988 he performed this song in Birmingham and Wien and he missed this part. I am very curious what is the problem with these lines? Jim's version is better because of this but his voice was too week.

Brian May is okay, but I think it's not more than a promotional step. His guitar playing doesn't give anything plus to this song. My fav guitar player is Brian May forever but it1s not his best work, but so much better than Heroes from 1987. Meat is not great in this song but it's one of the closest performance to himself!

My score: 8

Average: 8.00

**RadioMaster** · 01 Dec 2006, 20:35

I have a recording of the 1988 BfG live version (dont know which concert though), and it HAS the god speed section!

Meat said somewhere that he thought from the beginning that this was a bad brigde back to the refrain and he still thinks today, so I assume that´s the reason he left it.

The song:
I cant really grow excitement about that one, there´s somehow a lack of poer and emotion, dont ask me why.

7

Paul191 · 02 Dec 2006, 00:01

I would give the song 9/10

..........The only problem I have is that there wasn't a monster guitar solo after the 'Let it go!' section.

mszee · 02 Dec 2006, 00:07

Another hmmm...

Think this is very good but could have been better...

It's an 8 for me...

Bap · 02 Dec 2006, 12:23

Not bad. 8.5

geordieloaf · 02 Dec 2006, 18:28

I think it is a good effort. Was always going to be hard to live up to expectation.
8/10

mikeloaf · 03 Dec 2006, 01:01

When I first heard this track on the CD ( after hearing it live at RAH when, like everything that night, it was fantastic ) I felt it just went on too long. When I finally got into it I've come to love it. It is an old song, and especially at the end it shows it's age, yet it is a very funny song, it is it good to listen to. It's Ok ,but not one of my favorites so 6 1/2 out of 10.

evil nickname · 03 Dec 2006, 23:53

"Bad For Good" is great, but lacking. Where Jim's version had a sense of urgency, and lots of piano, this version plods along but never seems to get going, and lots of Brian May who sounds out of place and barely any piano. It's a good alternative take on the song, but it never reaches it full potential.

8/10

MeatGrl1 · 04 Dec 2006, 00:36

Love this one

10/10

duke knooby · 04 Dec 2006, 01:01

reasonable song, reasonably done, well worth 5.5 or maybe 6

mindnick1 · 04 Dec 2006, 05:57

the best song on song on Bat 3

Rockette · 04 Dec 2006, 07:30

8 / 10 for me.

luk.out.of.hell · 04 Dec 2006, 20:20

8/10

robgomm · 04 Dec 2006, 20:22

I think the trouble with this song is that it's been done so long ago by Steinman, and all the Steinman lovers out there are totally biased towards him in regards to this song.

Having become a Meat Loaf fan myself in fairly recent years I considor myself to be able to judge more objectively than some.

I think this is one of the best songs on Bat3, the vocals are excellant and it whips along at a cracking pace, the only criticism I would have is that Meat doesn't really put any emotion into the song. It's hard though for me to mark it down because I think it is excellantly done. And when you compare it to Steinmans original version there's no contest really, Steinmans version was better for the emotion and speed, but Meats vocals are and always have been far superior, Steinman sounds like Weird Al.

9 out of 10

evil nickname · 04 Dec 2006, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm

I think the trouble with this song is that it's been done so long ago by Steinman, and all the Steinman lovers out there are totally biased towards him in regards to this song.

Unlike the Meat Loaf lovers, who are completly objective about the song and performance, right?

geordieloaf · 05 Dec 2006, 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

Unlike the Meat Loaf lovers, who are completly objective about the song and performance, right?

What about the Meat Loaf & Jim Steinman fans. Which i class myself as i think both versions are good, but you can't really compare Jim's vocals to Meat's there just not in the same league imo.

evil nickname · 05 Dec 2006, 00:52

No, you're right: Jim's are way better for the song

geordieloaf · 05 Dec 2006, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

No, you're right: Jim's are way better for the song

SW31 · 05 Dec 2006, 01:10

8/10 for either virsion meats or jims

sunneke · 05 Dec 2006, 07:35

this song doesn't do it for me.... I thought: wow Brian May, that's gonna be great. To me no.... it's not THAT for me.. 6/10

Bart · 05 Dec 2006, 14:16

I miss the piano.
I miss the lead guitar.
I miss the intro (and hate Brain May's).

I like Brian's guitarsolo.
I like the chorus (if you can call it a chorus!) "and for just a little while"
I like the "for the good"part.

All in all the song itselfs is great, production and arrangements are poor.
6/10.
I love tho chorus, I give it a 9/10.

Lord Kagan · 08 Dec 2006, 22:51

Good song, But jims was much much better 8/10

needmoremeat · 09 Dec 2006, 19:45

Best song on album for me, but sometimes doesn't carry as much weight as I thought it would, other times I love it. I would have liked it to have that bit more emotion injected in, although it's still a cracking song. Like the 'for the good of's, particularly the 'one hell of a night's. Production could have been better, but vocally excellent, especially the final 'good' which lasts for ten seconds!

10/10, could have been 11 if had better production and that teensy bit more emotion.

Rockette · 10 Dec 2006, 03:25

Heard Jim's. Like this one much better. How much more emotion does anyone want on this track? Love it to pieces. 9/10

Pudding · 11 Dec 2006, 02:31

The song could've been so much more with an awesome Brian May guitar solo in the middle, because of that the song is good not great.

8/10

Pud

01 Dec 2006, 18:16	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	88. Bad For Good This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!! Bad For Good (8) This song is from 1981. I love this song, I really enjoyed the "God speed - speed us away" part what was always missed by Meat Loaf. In 1988 he performed this song in Birmingham and Wien and he missed this part. I am very curious what is the problem with these lines? Jim's version is better because of this but his voice was too week. Brian May is okay, but I think it's not more than a promotional step. His guitar playing doesn't give anything plus to this song. My fav guitar player is Brian May forever but it1s not his best work, but so much better than Heroes from 1987. Meat is not great in this song but it's one of the closest performance to himself! My score: 8 Average: 8.00

01 Dec 2006, 20:35	#2
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I have a recording of the 1988 BfG live version (dont know which concert though), and it HAS the god speed section! Meat said somewhere that he thought from the beginning that this was a bad brigde back to the refrain and he still thinks today, so I assume that´s the reason he left it. The song: I cant really grow excitement about that one, there´s somehow a lack of poer and emotion, dont ask me why. 7

02 Dec 2006, 00:01	#3
Paul191 Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.11.2005 Location: Posts: 1,530	I would give the song 9/10 ..........The only problem I have is that there wasn't a monster guitar solo after the 'Let it go!' section.

02 Dec 2006, 00:07	#4
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Another hmmm... Think this is very good but could have been better... It's an 8 for me...

02 Dec 2006, 12:23	#5
Bap Super Loafer Join Date: 20.09.2004 Location: Wales! Posts: 608	Not bad. 8.5

02 Dec 2006, 18:28	#6
geordieloaf Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart Join Date: 25.10.2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,360	I think it is a good effort. Was always going to be hard to live up to expectation. 8/10

03 Dec 2006, 01:01	#7
mikeloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2005 Location: England UK Posts: 708	When I first heard this track on the CD ( after hearing it live at RAH when, like everything that night, it was fantastic ) I felt it just went on too long. When I finally got into it I've come to love it. It is an old song, and especially at the end it shows it's age, yet it is a very funny song, it is it good to listen to. It's Ok ,but not one of my favorites so 6 1/2 out of 10.

03 Dec 2006, 23:53	#8
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	"Bad For Good" is great, but lacking. Where Jim's version had a sense of urgency, and lots of piano, this version plods along but never seems to get going, and lots of Brian May who sounds out of place and barely any piano. It's a good alternative take on the song, but it never reaches it full potential. 8/10

04 Dec 2006, 00:36	#9
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	Love this one 10/10

04 Dec 2006, 01:01	#10
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,890	reasonable song, reasonably done, well worth 5.5 or maybe 6

04 Dec 2006, 05:57	#11
mindnick1 Sound Guy Join Date: 25.11.2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	the best song on song on Bat 3

04 Dec 2006, 07:30	#12
Rockette Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.06.2005 Location: I think! Posts: 4,805	8 / 10 for me.

04 Dec 2006, 20:20	#13
luk.out.of.hell Senior Loafer Join Date: 24.10.2006 Location: Bruchköbel Posts: 108	8/10

04 Dec 2006, 20:22	#14
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	I think the trouble with this song is that it's been done so long ago by Steinman, and all the Steinman lovers out there are totally biased towards him in regards to this song. Having become a Meat Loaf fan myself in fairly recent years I considor myself to be able to judge more objectively than some. I think this is one of the best songs on Bat3, the vocals are excellant and it whips along at a cracking pace, the only criticism I would have is that Meat doesn't really put any emotion into the song. It's hard though for me to mark it down because I think it is excellantly done. And when you compare it to Steinmans original version there's no contest really, Steinmans version was better for the emotion and speed, but Meats vocals are and always have been far superior, Steinman sounds like Weird Al. 9 out of 10

05 Dec 2006, 00:52	#17
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	No, you're right: Jim's are way better for the song

05 Dec 2006, 01:10	#19
SW31 in my coup de vil waiting for pardise by the dashboard light Join Date: 24.11.2003 Location: middlesbrough smoggy rules Posts: 8,137	8/10 for either virsion meats or jims

05 Dec 2006, 07:35	#20
sunneke Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.01.2006 Location: Amersfoort Posts: 2,263	this song doesn't do it for me.... I thought: wow Brian May, that's gonna be great. To me no.... it's not THAT for me.. 6/10

05 Dec 2006, 14:16	#21
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	I miss the piano. I miss the lead guitar. I miss the intro (and hate Brain May's). I like Brian's guitarsolo. I like the chorus (if you can call it a chorus!) "and for just a little while" I like the "for the good"part. All in all the song itselfs is great, production and arrangements are poor. 6/10. I love tho chorus, I give it a 9/10.

08 Dec 2006, 22:51	#22
Lord Kagan On the other hand, You have different fingers Join Date: 17.05.2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 8,833	Good song, But jims was much much better 8/10

09 Dec 2006, 19:45	#23
needmoremeat Mega Loafer Join Date: 23.11.2003 Location: Sunderland, UK Posts: 1,416	Best song on album for me, but sometimes doesn't carry as much weight as I thought it would, other times I love it. I would have liked it to have that bit more emotion injected in, although it's still a cracking song. Like the 'for the good of's, particularly the 'one hell of a night's. Production could have been better, but vocally excellent, especially the final 'good' which lasts for ten seconds! 10/10, could have been 11 if had better production and that teensy bit more emotion.

10 Dec 2006, 03:25	#24
Rockette Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.06.2005 Location: I think! Posts: 4,805	Heard Jim's. Like this one much better. How much more emotion does anyone want on this track? Love it to pieces. 9/10

11 Dec 2006, 02:31	#25
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	The song could've been so much more with an awesome Brian May guitar solo in the middle, because of that the song is good not great. 8/10 Pud