Very best of Meat Loaf

proctorloaf · 24 Jul 2016, 18:07

1. Who prefers the original order of the VBO album from 1999?
2. Why isn't the whole thing available on iTunes?
3. Is it time for a new very best of? AND what tracks should be there?

Evil One · 24 Jul 2016, 18:29

1) I'd imagine just about everybody. The second edition was a cheapo effort. They didn't bother to sort out the spacing between the tracks after jumbling them up, hence some songs have no gap between them and others have a fair bit of silence.
2) iTunes is shit.
3) The problem with doing a Very Best Of from Bat 3 onwards is that the songs needing to be included are not necessarily the best songs. Either you stick to album tracks and some people will wonder where the singles are, or you stick to the singles and people will compare the new stuff unfavourably to the old stuff. Do Cry Over Me and Los Angeloser really belong on a Very Best Of album?

To answer the question I would go for:

Hot Patootie
Bat Out Of Hell
Took The Words
Two Out Of Three
Paradise
I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us
Read 'Em And Weep
Dead Ringer
Midnight
Modern Girl
Anything For Love
Rock And Roll Dreams
Objects
I'd Lie For You
Not A Dry Eye
Is Nothing Sacred? (duet version)
Couldn't Have Said It Better
Blind As A Bat
Land Of The Pig
All Of Me
Giving Tree
Going All The Way
Speaking In Tongues

All that would fit nicely on two CDs.

nikox1 · 24 Jul 2016, 18:44

Bat out of hell
You took the words
Two out of three
Paradise dashboard light
Deadringer for love
Midnight at the lost and found
Modern girl
Rock n roll mercenaries
Anything for love
Rock n roll dreams
Objects mirror
I'd lie for you
Not a dry eye
Couldn't have better
It's all coming back
Los angeloser
New song - from musical
New song - from musical

Elijah's way · 24 Jul 2016, 19:14

I think a sufficient Very Best Of album would consist his very best songs, that includes songs from every album. Not just a select few.

1. What You See Is What You Get
2. Hot Patootie
3. Bat Out Of Hell
4. Paradise
5. Two Out Of Three
6. For Crying Out Loud
7. Took The Words
8. Heaven Can Waite
9. Dead Ringer
10. Read Em And Weep
11. Everything Is Permited
12. I'm Gonna Love Her For The Both Of Us
13. Midnight At The Lost And Found
14. Razors Edge
15. Falling Angel
16. Bad Attitude
17. Surfs Up
18. Modern Girl
19. Execution Day
20. Burning Down
21. Standing On The Outside
22. A Time For Heros
23. Anything For Love
24. Life Is A Lemon
25. Rock N Roll Dreams
26. Objects
27. It Just Won't Quit
28. Lost boys And Golden Girls
29. I'd Lie For You
30. Not A Dry Eye
31. Left In The Dark
32. Is Nothing Sacred (duet version)
33. Home By Now
34. A kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waiste
35. Lawyers Guns And Money (storytellers live)
36. Couldn't Have Said It Better
37. Did I Say That?
38. Man Of Steel
39. The Monster Is Loose
40. Blind As A Bat
41. Cry Over Me
42. It's All Coming Back To Me Now
43. Peace On Earth
44. Living On The Outside
45. Song Of Madness
46. Let's Be In Love
47. All Of Me
48. California Dreaming
49. Another Day
50. Going All The Way
51. Speaking In Tongues
52. More
53. Skull Of You're Country
54. Loving You's A Dirty Job
55. Total Eclipse Of The Heart (rercorded with Bonnie Tyler just for this album)

nikox1 · 24 Jul 2016, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah's way

I think a sufficient Very Best Of album would consist his very best songs, that includes songs from every album. Not just a select few.

1. What You See Is What You Get
2. Hot Patootie
3. Bat Out Of Hell
4. Paradise
5. Two Out Of Three
6. For Crying Out Loud
7. Took The Words
8. Heaven Can Waite
9. Dead Ringer
10. Read Em And Weep
11. Everything Is Permited
12. I'm Gonna Love Her For The Both Of Us
13. Midnight At The Lost And Found
14. Razors Edge
15. Falling Angel
16. Bad Attitude
17. Surfs Up
18. Modern Girl
19. Execution Day
20. Burning Down
21. Standing On The Outside
22. A Time For Heros
23. Anything For Love
24. Life Is A Lemon
25. Rock N Roll Dreams
26. Objects
27. It Just Won't Quit
28. Lost boys And Golden Girls
29. I'd Lie For You
30. Not A Dry Eye
31. Left In The Dark
32. Is Nothing Sacred (duet version)
33. Home By Now
34. A kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waiste
35. Lawyers Guns And Money (storytellers live)
36. Couldn't Have Said It Better
37. Did I Say That?
38. Man Of Steel
39. The Monster Is Loose
40. Blind As A Bat
41. Cry Over Me
42. It's All Coming Back To Me Now
43. Peace On Earth
44. Living On The Outside
45. Song Of Madness
46. Let's Be In Love
47. All Of Me
48. California Dreaming
49. Another Day
50. Going All The Way
51. Speaking In Tongues
52. More
53. Skull Of You're Country
54. Loving You's A Dirty Job
55. Total Eclipse Of The Heart (rercorded with Bonnie Tyler just for this album)

6 cd edition yeah?

Elijah's way · 24 Jul 2016, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikox1

6 cd edition yeah?

They wouldn't necessarily have to release it on cd format. It could be a digital release only. But one can dream right? 😂

nikox1 · 24 Jul 2016, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah's way

They wouldn't necessarily have to release it on cd format. It could be a digital release only. But one can dream right? 😂

I like your selection of songs, but yes dream unfortunately

ThatWriterGuy · 24 Jul 2016, 20:02

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Originally Posted by nikox1

6 cd edition yeah?

14 vinyls in gatefold sleeves??

Vol. 2 'coming soon'?

proctorloaf · 24 Jul 2016, 20:04

might as well just buy all of the albums if this is the list

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah's way

I think a sufficient Very Best Of album would consist his very best songs, that includes songs from every album. Not just a select few.

1. What You See Is What You Get
2. Hot Patootie
3. Bat Out Of Hell
4. Paradise
5. Two Out Of Three
6. For Crying Out Loud
7. Took The Words
8. Heaven Can Waite
9. Dead Ringer
10. Read Em And Weep
11. Everything Is Permited
12. I'm Gonna Love Her For The Both Of Us
13. Midnight At The Lost And Found
14. Razors Edge
15. Falling Angel
16. Bad Attitude
17. Surfs Up
18. Modern Girl
19. Execution Day
20. Burning Down
21. Standing On The Outside
22. A Time For Heros
23. Anything For Love
24. Life Is A Lemon
25. Rock N Roll Dreams
26. Objects
27. It Just Won't Quit
28. Lost boys And Golden Girls
29. I'd Lie For You
30. Not A Dry Eye
31. Left In The Dark
32. Is Nothing Sacred (duet version)
33. Home By Now
34. A kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waiste
35. Lawyers Guns And Money (storytellers live)
36. Couldn't Have Said It Better
37. Did I Say That?
38. Man Of Steel
39. The Monster Is Loose
40. Blind As A Bat
41. Cry Over Me
42. It's All Coming Back To Me Now
43. Peace On Earth
44. Living On The Outside
45. Song Of Madness
46. Let's Be In Love
47. All Of Me
48. California Dreaming
49. Another Day
50. Going All The Way
51. Speaking In Tongues
52. More
53. Skull Of You're Country
54. Loving You's A Dirty Job
55. Total Eclipse Of The Heart (rercorded with Bonnie Tyler just for this album)

dukesofhazard · 24 Jul 2016, 20:47

I think that any new very best of should be previously unreleased live versions of tracks. I'd be happy with pretty much anything then!

Wario · 24 Jul 2016, 21:18

nothing at all was wrong with the selection on the very best of CD.

If anything they forgot Rock n Roll Mercenaries cause it was a hit.

glockenspiel · 24 Jul 2016, 22:27

On a 'fiddly' point, I happen to prefer the slightly shortened 'Objects In Rear View' on Very Best Of (over the track as is on Bat 2)... Even though I presume this was only done because of issues with total running time ...

Evil One · 24 Jul 2016, 22:32

I don't. But I do prefer how the Bat 1 and 2 songs sound on this album to any other album.

Mr. Happy · 25 Jul 2016, 07:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario

nothing at all was wrong with the selection on the very best of CD.

If anything they forgot Rock n Roll Mercenaries cause it was a hit.

I agree with this. I'd rather they do a Very Best of Meat Loaf: Volume II that picks up where Volume I left off rather than do something that spans his entire career. The original VBO has already covered Bat-WTTN just fine.

Couldn't Have Said It Better
Did I Say That
Testify
The Monster Is Loose
Blind as a Bat
It's All Coming Back to Me Now
In the Land of the Pigs
Seize the Night
The Future Ain't What It Used to Be
Peace on Earth
Living on the Outside
Los Angeloser
Song of Madness
Elvis in Vegas
Prize Fight Lover
Going All the Way Is Just the Start
What Part of My Body Hurts the Most (from the BOOH Cast Album)
Still the Children (from the BOOH Cast Album)

That's a great collection of songs.

glockenspiel · 25 Jul 2016, 08:24

The original 'Hits Out Of Hell' was a near-perfect sequence of tracks - The only tweaks needed to make it totally perfect being no fade out on 'Modern Girl' and adding in spoken intro to 'Took The Words' ... All academic now, but my approach to further compilations would have been to take things from there (i.e., Similar to the Queen compilations) ,,,

rockfenris2005 · 25 Jul 2016, 19:32

1. Definitely, definitely, definitely prefer the original. I COUNT Very Best in the discography actually BECAUSE of the three new tracks. It was also the last time Jim and Meat worked in the studio together, I'm pretty sure.
2. Isn't there a rights problem with Bad Attitude? That one doesn't even show up on iTunes from memory?
3. I think it's the perfect time for a new Very Best of. But the problem is that as much as I liked the lineup I just saw for what would be the next one, I think it needs the famous Bat songs & Dead ringer to sell.

PanicLord · 25 Jul 2016, 22:32

I really don't get why the record companies (and movie studios) are so dumb on rights issues. Get together and make a bundle or protect your own self interest and make nothing. An easy choice in my eyes but they rarely seem to do it.

Elijah's way · 26 Jul 2016, 20:20

Ok I'll do a realistic track list lol

The Very Best Of Meat Loaf Vol: 2

1. What You See Is What You Get
2. All Revved Up
3. For Crying Out Loud
4. I'm Going To Love Her For The Both Of Us
5. Razors Edge
6. Surf's Up
7. Getting Away With Murder
8. It Just Want Quit
9. Out Of The Frying Pan
10. Lost Boys And Golden Girls
11. Amnesty Is Granted
12. Left In The Dark
13. I Couldn't Have Said It Better
14. Did I Say That?
15. Man Of Steel
16. The Monster Is Loose
17. Blind As A Bat
18. It's All Coming Back
19. Cry Over Me
20. Peace On Earth
21. Living On The Outside
22. Song Of Madness
23. All Of Me
24. The Giving Tree
25. Going All The Way
26. Speaking In Tongues
27. More

I refuse to put Los Angeloser on there. Don't you dare release one of the only two shitty songs on a album full of masterpiece tracks as the only single lmao.

glockenspiel · 28 Jul 2016, 09:53

Wait a minute, you think 'Los Angeloser' was shitty ?! - For me it had that sense-of-fun that so was lacking from Bat 3 ,,,,,, Each to his own ......

Mr Flibble · 28 Jul 2016, 10:52

Count me as a fan of Los Angeloser as well.

And you can't really do a hits package and ignore the singles.

AndrewG · 28 Jul 2016, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Flibble

Count me as a fan of Los Angeloser as well.

And you can't really do a hits package and ignore the singles.

I think this is for me where the distinction comes in. The Very Best of isn't necessarily a "Greatest Hits" compilation in my opinion whereas with Meat that's kind of what we got.

I would always put Where The Rubber Meets the road over Not a Dry Eye and More Than you Deserve or Gonna Love her for both of us over Dead Ringer. If I were introducing someone to Meat's music I would probably avoid playing Dead Ringer For Love completely. It's a fun song but I just don't regard it as anything close to his best. Most other songs on the Dead Ringer album are better I think.

glockenspiel · 28 Jul 2016, 12:44

Well now, there's a question which is ripe for a new thread all of its own - What one recording would you play/show to someone who had never heard any Loaf ??

Meat Loaf_fan · 28 Jul 2016, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockenspiel

Well now, there's a question which is ripe for a new thread all of its own - What one recording would you play/show to someone who had never heard any Loaf ??

There are so many of them ... but if I must:
- show: video clip for I'd Lie For You,
- play: audio Heaven Can Wait.

ThatWriterGuy · 28 Jul 2016, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockenspiel

Well now, there's a question which is ripe for a new thread all of its own - What one recording would you play/show to someone who had never heard any Loaf ??

The video clip for AFL.

If they liked that, BAT II.

Hey, it worked for me (in that order, too!).

AndrewG · 28 Jul 2016, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy

The video clip for AFL.

If they liked that, BAT II.

Hey, it worked for me (in that order, too!).

Shocking we still don't have HD versions of the Bat 2 and WTTN videos considering how much they would have cost to produced.

The Bat 2 videos are all far better than most of Michael Bay's movies, with exception of The Rock and Armageddon, they're still great in my opinion. Bad Boys 2, Pearl Harbour and Transformers 1 to episode 100 suck donkey balls.

Pearl Harbour is like a terrible long drawn out version of the Objects in the rear view mirror video.

24 Jul 2016, 18:07	#1
proctorloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 28.02.2010 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 347	Very best of Meat Loaf 1. Who prefers the original order of the VBO album from 1999? 2. Why isn't the whole thing available on iTunes? 3. Is it time for a new very best of? AND what tracks should be there?

24 Jul 2016, 18:44	#3
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	Bat out of hell You took the words Two out of three Paradise dashboard light Deadringer for love Midnight at the lost and found Modern girl Rock n roll mercenaries Anything for love Rock n roll dreams Objects mirror I'd lie for you Not a dry eye Couldn't have better It's all coming back Los angeloser New song - from musical New song - from musical Last edited by nikox1; 24 Jul 2016 at 19:07.

26 Jul 2016, 20:20	#18
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	Ok I'll do a realistic track list lol The Very Best Of Meat Loaf Vol: 2 1. What You See Is What You Get 2. All Revved Up 3. For Crying Out Loud 4. I'm Going To Love Her For The Both Of Us 5. Razors Edge 6. Surf's Up 7. Getting Away With Murder 8. It Just Want Quit 9. Out Of The Frying Pan 10. Lost Boys And Golden Girls 11. Amnesty Is Granted 12. Left In The Dark 13. I Couldn't Have Said It Better 14. Did I Say That? 15. Man Of Steel 16. The Monster Is Loose 17. Blind As A Bat 18. It's All Coming Back 19. Cry Over Me 20. Peace On Earth 21. Living On The Outside 22. Song Of Madness 23. All Of Me 24. The Giving Tree 25. Going All The Way 26. Speaking In Tongues 27. More I refuse to put Los Angeloser on there. Don't you dare release one of the only two shitty songs on a album full of masterpiece tracks as the only single lmao. Last edited by Elijah's way; 26 Jul 2016 at 20:25.

24 Jul 2016, 18:29	#2
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	1) I'd imagine just about everybody. The second edition was a cheapo effort. They didn't bother to sort out the spacing between the tracks after jumbling them up, hence some songs have no gap between them and others have a fair bit of silence. 2) iTunes is shit. 3) The problem with doing a Very Best Of from Bat 3 onwards is that the songs needing to be included are not necessarily the best songs. Either you stick to album tracks and some people will wonder where the singles are, or you stick to the singles and people will compare the new stuff unfavourably to the old stuff. Do Cry Over Me and Los Angeloser really belong on a Very Best Of album? To answer the question I would go for: Hot Patootie Bat Out Of Hell Took The Words Two Out Of Three Paradise I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us Read 'Em And Weep Dead Ringer Midnight Modern Girl Anything For Love Rock And Roll Dreams Objects I'd Lie For You Not A Dry Eye Is Nothing Sacred? (duet version) Couldn't Have Said It Better Blind As A Bat Land Of The Pig All Of Me Giving Tree Going All The Way Speaking In Tongues All that would fit nicely on two CDs.

24 Jul 2016, 19:14	#4
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	I think a sufficient Very Best Of album would consist his very best songs, that includes songs from every album. Not just a select few. 1. What You See Is What You Get 2. Hot Patootie 3. Bat Out Of Hell 4. Paradise 5. Two Out Of Three 6. For Crying Out Loud 7. Took The Words 8. Heaven Can Waite 9. Dead Ringer 10. Read Em And Weep 11. Everything Is Permited 12. I'm Gonna Love Her For The Both Of Us 13. Midnight At The Lost And Found 14. Razors Edge 15. Falling Angel 16. Bad Attitude 17. Surfs Up 18. Modern Girl 19. Execution Day 20. Burning Down 21. Standing On The Outside 22. A Time For Heros 23. Anything For Love 24. Life Is A Lemon 25. Rock N Roll Dreams 26. Objects 27. It Just Won't Quit 28. Lost boys And Golden Girls 29. I'd Lie For You 30. Not A Dry Eye 31. Left In The Dark 32. Is Nothing Sacred (duet version) 33. Home By Now 34. A kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waiste 35. Lawyers Guns And Money (storytellers live) 36. Couldn't Have Said It Better 37. Did I Say That? 38. Man Of Steel 39. The Monster Is Loose 40. Blind As A Bat 41. Cry Over Me 42. It's All Coming Back To Me Now 43. Peace On Earth 44. Living On The Outside 45. Song Of Madness 46. Let's Be In Love 47. All Of Me 48. California Dreaming 49. Another Day 50. Going All The Way 51. Speaking In Tongues 52. More 53. Skull Of You're Country 54. Loving You's A Dirty Job 55. Total Eclipse Of The Heart (rercorded with Bonnie Tyler just for this album)

24 Jul 2016, 20:47	#10
dukesofhazard Super Loafer Join Date: 24.09.2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK Posts: 478	I think that any new very best of should be previously unreleased live versions of tracks. I'd be happy with pretty much anything then!

24 Jul 2016, 21:18	#11
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	nothing at all was wrong with the selection on the very best of CD. If anything they forgot Rock n Roll Mercenaries cause it was a hit.

24 Jul 2016, 22:27	#12
glockenspiel Senior Loafer Join Date: 28.08.2009 Posts: 171	On a 'fiddly' point, I happen to prefer the slightly shortened 'Objects In Rear View' on Very Best Of (over the track as is on Bat 2)... Even though I presume this was only done because of issues with total running time ...

24 Jul 2016, 22:32	#13
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I don't. But I do prefer how the Bat 1 and 2 songs sound on this album to any other album.

25 Jul 2016, 08:24	#15
glockenspiel Senior Loafer Join Date: 28.08.2009 Posts: 171	The original 'Hits Out Of Hell' was a near-perfect sequence of tracks - The only tweaks needed to make it totally perfect being no fade out on 'Modern Girl' and adding in spoken intro to 'Took The Words' ... All academic now, but my approach to further compilations would have been to take things from there (i.e., Similar to the Queen compilations) ,,,

25 Jul 2016, 19:32	#16
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	1. Definitely, definitely, definitely prefer the original. I COUNT Very Best in the discography actually BECAUSE of the three new tracks. It was also the last time Jim and Meat worked in the studio together, I'm pretty sure. 2. Isn't there a rights problem with Bad Attitude? That one doesn't even show up on iTunes from memory? 3. I think it's the perfect time for a new Very Best of. But the problem is that as much as I liked the lineup I just saw for what would be the next one, I think it needs the famous Bat songs & Dead ringer to sell.

25 Jul 2016, 22:32	#17
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,651	I really don't get why the record companies (and movie studios) are so dumb on rights issues. Get together and make a bundle or protect your own self interest and make nothing. An easy choice in my eyes but they rarely seem to do it.

28 Jul 2016, 09:53	#19
glockenspiel Senior Loafer Join Date: 28.08.2009 Posts: 171	Wait a minute, you think 'Los Angeloser' was shitty ?! - For me it had that sense-of-fun that so was lacking from Bat 3 ,,,,,, Each to his own ......

28 Jul 2016, 10:52	#20
Mr Flibble Junior Loafer Join Date: 20.07.2016 Location: Leicester Posts: 37	Count me as a fan of Los Angeloser as well. And you can't really do a hits package and ignore the singles.

28 Jul 2016, 12:44	#22
glockenspiel Senior Loafer Join Date: 28.08.2009 Posts: 171	Well now, there's a question which is ripe for a new thread all of its own - What one recording would you play/show to someone who had never heard any Loaf ??