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Old 25 Feb 2020, 05:33   #51
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Old 25 Feb 2020, 09:31   #52
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If you are Patti, then can we ask why you're posting these alleged incidents involving Meat, many years after the event? I could understand it if you'd posted about them in the aftermath of your departure from the Neverland express, but it's nigh on 10 years since you left, so why now?



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Greetings to all. Iíve been on this site for quite some time ( years) , albeit , with a username that is not recognized.
Itís me. Patti Russo....
Im not here to argue or defend myself. Iím here to only say that if you have a question to ask of me, allow me to answer them now that you know that Iím here.
Iíve seen a lot of comments here over the years..The internet makes us all a bit bold and we forget that we are all connected.
I donít believe Iíve ever been anything but gracious and humbled to any one of you over the many years that Iíve come to meet and know you all.
I am here now, in the open, to speak for myself, rather than not.
Thank you all and wish you all only the best, always.
Lotsa love Xxoo Patti
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Old 25 Feb 2020, 15:01   #53
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ajf33, I gotta say, I kind of feel like your question is unfair. You might as well ask why all the women who came out against Harvey Weinstein, to point to a much more serious situation (or maybe it's equally serious; if this is Patti, she can clear that aspect up), waited for so long to do so.

When women report things like Patti seems to be reporting at the time they happen, the outcomes are generally terrible. According to research conducted by the Everyday Sexism project, over two-thirds of young women are experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace now, today. 80% of them felt unable to report it, but three-quarters of the ones who did said that nothing changed afterwards, and 16% said that the situation got worse. Assuming there is more to this story than what she's posted about so far, it's unrealistic and inaccurate to assume that it was wiser or safer to report at the time.

(Funny that I picked Weinstein, a frequent user of confidentiality pacts, as an example; connecting some dots from previous tweets before she unloaded this stuff, she alluded to freedom in a way that suggested maybe a non disclosure agreement of some kind had expired. I'm not saying that's a fact, but I'm saying it's possible. And, again, if this is her, maybe she can clear that up.)
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Old 25 Feb 2020, 17:40   #54
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Greetings to all. Iíve been on this site for quite some time ( years) , albeit , with a username that is not recognized.
Itís me. Patti Russo....
Im not here to argue or defend myself. Iím here to only say that if you have a question to ask of me, allow me to answer them now that you know that Iím here.
Iíve seen a lot of comments here over the years..The internet makes us all a bit bold and we forget that we are all connected.
I donít believe Iíve ever been anything but gracious and humbled to any one of you over the many years that Iíve come to meet and know you all.
I am here now, in the open, to speak for myself, rather than not.
Thank you all and wish you all only the best, always.
Lotsa love Xxoo Patti
Great to hear from you Patti. You were and are such a massive part of Meat Loaf's success. Your unbelievable voice and infectious personality brought so much pleasure to so many.

I just want to say thanks and all the very best today and in the future.
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Old 25 Feb 2020, 20:32   #55
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ajf33, I gotta say, I kind of feel like your question is unfair. You might as well ask why all the women who came out against Harvey Weinstein, to point to a much more serious situation (or maybe it's equally serious; if this is Patti, she can clear that aspect up), waited for so long to do so.

When women report things like Patti seems to be reporting at the time they happen, the outcomes are generally terrible. According to research conducted by the Everyday Sexism project, over two-thirds of young women are experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace now, today. 80% of them felt unable to report it, but three-quarters of the ones who did said that nothing changed afterwards, and 16% said that the situation got worse. Assuming there is more to this story than what she's posted about so far, it's unrealistic and inaccurate to assume that it was wiser or safer to report at the time.

(Funny that I picked Weinstein, a frequent user of confidentiality pacts, as an example; connecting some dots from previous tweets before she unloaded this stuff, she alluded to freedom in a way that suggested maybe a non disclosure agreement of some kind had expired. I'm not saying that's a fact, but I'm saying it's possible. And, again, if this is her, maybe she can clear that up.)
If indeed this is Patti it will be interesting to see if she is allowed freedom to speak here or will a lot of people turn hypocritical on their opinions in other cases and advocate for trying to gloss this over because "reasons". As far as what I have read anything people seem to be thinking are more their own inference or implication taken than what Patti has actually said (as far as I know).
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Old 25 Feb 2020, 20:47   #56
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will a lot of people turn hypocritical on their opinions in other cases and advocate for trying to gloss this over because "reasons"
If you're referring to my earlier posts, then you have not understood the words as written. If you're not referring to my posts - carry on
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Old Yesterday, 01:08   #57
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As I was the person who posted them, I will say they are not alleged at all. As to why I posted them, let me just say that I was made aware of something that happened right before the holidays. It was senseless and meant to, for lack of a better word, “trigger” me.
THIS time? I did not stay silent.
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Old Yesterday, 14:26   #58
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As I was the person who posted them, I will say they are not alleged at all. As to why I posted them, let me just say that I was made aware of something that happened right before the holidays. It was senseless and meant to, for lack of a better word, ďtriggerĒ me.
THIS time? I did not stay silent.
Personally, without regard to why the other poster is using it, I use terms like "alleged" for legal purposes. As any lawyer might tell you, without using that word until the truth of something is established with evidence, a person can expose themselves to liability. (Personally, for a variety of reasons, I'm inclined to believe you.)

They might just be erring on the side of caution, which is possibly sort of like how you turned down or ignored requests for interviews from two major publications on this subject. Care to elaborate about that?

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As I was the person who posted them, I will say they are not alleged at all. As to why I posted them, let me just say that I was made aware of something that happened right before the holidays. It was senseless and meant to, for lack of a better word, ďtriggerĒ me.
THIS time? I did not stay silent.
I have sent you a PM here on the forum Patti.
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I apologize for any offence to anyone, if that is how my question came across.

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ajf33, I gotta say, I kind of feel like your question is unfair. You might as well ask why all the women who came out against Harvey Weinstein, to point to a much more serious situation (or maybe it's equally serious; if this is Patti, she can clear that aspect up), waited for so long to do so.

When women report things like Patti seems to be reporting at the time they happen, the outcomes are generally terrible. According to research conducted by the Everyday Sexism project, over two-thirds of young women are experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace now, today. 80% of them felt unable to report it, but three-quarters of the ones who did said that nothing changed afterwards, and 16% said that the situation got worse. Assuming there is more to this story than what she's posted about so far, it's unrealistic and inaccurate to assume that it was wiser or safer to report at the time.

(Funny that I picked Weinstein, a frequent user of confidentiality pacts, as an example; connecting some dots from previous tweets before she unloaded this stuff, she alluded to freedom in a way that suggested maybe a non disclosure agreement of some kind had expired. I'm not saying that's a fact, but I'm saying it's possible. And, again, if this is her, maybe she can clear that up.)
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I use the word alleged simply, as, mentioned by another poster in a legal sense, as we only have your version of events. I am not saying that, what you say happened, didn't, as I'm in no position to dispute these incidents occurring. I thank you for your answer, and wondered if I could ask was it something that Meat said or did that was the trigger for the posts?

And also what is the crypic tweet to do with Meats on stage collapse all about?


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THIS time? I did not stay silent.
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