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duke knooby · 04 Jan 2021, 23:13

I was interested to read this morning in an article titled Oxford vaccine regulatory authorisation: FAQ

"This efficacy result is based on data from younger (18–55 years old) adults – how do you know that it is safe for older adults?

The MHRA have approved this vaccine and have come to the conclusion that the dosing schedule can remain the same for these groups, we know further results are due in the next couple of months and will build on existing knowledge for older adults."

Link for the above..

https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Articl...regulatory-faq

Which had me wondering what have the MHRA published about this?

So a quick visit to the government website revealed the following...

"Elderly population

Efficacy and safety data are currently limited in individuals ≥65 years of age (see sections 4.8 and 5.1). No dosage adjustment is required.
Paediatric population

The safety and efficacy of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca in children and adolescents (aged <18 years old) have not yet been established. No data are available."

and demographics quoted as...

"Baseline demographics were well balanced across COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and control treatment groups. Overall, among the participants who received COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 94.1% of participants were 18 to 64 years old (with 5.9% aged 65 or older); 60.7% of subjects were female; 82.8% were White, 4.6% were Asian, and 4.4% were Black. A total of 2,070 (35.6%) participants had at least one pre-existing comorbidity (defined as a BMI ≥30 kg/m2, cardiovascular disorder, respiratory disease or diabetes). The median follow-up time post-dose 1 and post-dose 2 was 132 days and 63 days, respectively."

Full link to the above information...

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ne-astrazeneca

And yet the government is rolling this out first to the elderly and vulnerable?

Seems to me, this roll out is going to be the largest, virtually untested drug trial in the history of the UK

duke knooby · 04 Jan 2021, 23:21

And three more things...

1, I'm glad I decided to just copy and paste most of the above, or I'd still be typing it out in an hours time.

2, Whomever typed/published the Oxford FAQ above should've used a computer with a working space key.

3, More lock down lunacy for all.

duke knooby · 08 Jan 2021, 01:00

I only found the Northern Ireland daily, and cumulative Covid-19 stats today.

And page 4, the Covid-19 Testing Overview really concerns me.

It very kindly releases separate pillar 1, pillar 2 and finally combined test statistics

And the positive test rate for pillar 2 is Considerably, Exponentially higher than for pillar 1 tests.

I might actually (for the first time ever) have to write to an MP to seek some answers.

duke knooby · 17 Jan 2021, 21:41

That's been 72 hours without alcohol, and over a weekend too.

Long time since I did that.

tonyloaf · 21 Jan 2021, 20:27

Keep rocking everyone!!

duke knooby · 05 Feb 2021, 23:00

I couldn't believe the total deaths registered chart (for England and Wales) when I looked at it today... There has been a massive spike in deaths recorded in England and Wales this last few weeks. The jump on the chart was so big, I didn't believe it, and looked up the figures myself on the ONS. Between beginning of September and 1st of January the total weekly deaths recorded in England and Wales have fluctuated between 8k to 13k per week...

December to January figures

04/12/20 12,303
11/12/20 12,292
18/12/20 13,011
25/12/20 11,520
01/01/21 10,069

And then the total death rate goes nuts

08/01/21 17,751
15/01/21 18,042
22/01/01 18,676

Data sources..
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nglandandwales

What has caused the massive spike in deaths?
Why is it affecting the elderly more in January than December?
And why haven't the media investigated?

duke knooby · 10 Feb 2021, 17:44

I wonder will the vaccines end up killing more people than the virus did.

Lee B · 11 Feb 2021, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby

I wonder will the vaccines end up killing more people than the virus did.

Happy to put your mind at rest; no, they won't.

04 Jan 2021, 23:13	#58576
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,746	I was interested to read this morning in an article titled Oxford vaccine regulatory authorisation: FAQ "This efficacy result is based on data from younger (18–55 years old) adults – how do you know that it is safe for older adults? The MHRA have approved this vaccine and have come to the conclusion that the dosing schedule can remain the same for these groups, we know further results are due in the next couple of months and will build on existing knowledge for older adults." Link for the above.. https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Articl...regulatory-faq Which had me wondering what have the MHRA published about this? So a quick visit to the government website revealed the following... "Elderly population Efficacy and safety data are currently limited in individuals ≥65 years of age (see sections 4.8 and 5.1). No dosage adjustment is required. Paediatric population The safety and efficacy of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca in children and adolescents (aged <18 years old) have not yet been established. No data are available." and demographics quoted as... "Baseline demographics were well balanced across COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and control treatment groups. Overall, among the participants who received COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 94.1% of participants were 18 to 64 years old (with 5.9% aged 65 or older); 60.7% of subjects were female; 82.8% were White, 4.6% were Asian, and 4.4% were Black. A total of 2,070 (35.6%) participants had at least one pre-existing comorbidity (defined as a BMI ≥30 kg/m2, cardiovascular disorder, respiratory disease or diabetes). The median follow-up time post-dose 1 and post-dose 2 was 132 days and 63 days, respectively." Full link to the above information... https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ne-astrazeneca And yet the government is rolling this out first to the elderly and vulnerable? Seems to me, this roll out is going to be the largest, virtually untested drug trial in the history of the UK

04 Jan 2021, 23:21	#58577
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,746	And three more things... 1, I'm glad I decided to just copy and paste most of the above, or I'd still be typing it out in an hours time. 2, Whomever typed/published the Oxford FAQ above should've used a computer with a working space key. 3, More lock down lunacy for all.

08 Jan 2021, 01:00	#58578
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,746	I only found the Northern Ireland daily, and cumulative Covid-19 stats today. And page 4, the Covid-19 Testing Overview really concerns me. It very kindly releases separate pillar 1, pillar 2 and finally combined test statistics And the positive test rate for pillar 2 is Considerably, Exponentially higher than for pillar 1 tests. I might actually (for the first time ever) have to write to an MP to seek some answers.

17 Jan 2021, 21:41	#58579
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,746	That's been 72 hours without alcohol, and over a weekend too. Long time since I did that.

21 Jan 2021, 20:27	#58580
tonyloaf Metal Head Join Date: 15.05.2006 Location: Brighton Posts: 2,392	Keep rocking everyone!!

05 Feb 2021, 23:00	#58581
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,746	I couldn't believe the total deaths registered chart (for England and Wales) when I looked at it today... There has been a massive spike in deaths recorded in England and Wales this last few weeks. The jump on the chart was so big, I didn't believe it, and looked up the figures myself on the ONS. Between beginning of September and 1st of January the total weekly deaths recorded in England and Wales have fluctuated between 8k to 13k per week... December to January figures 04/12/20 12,303 11/12/20 12,292 18/12/20 13,011 25/12/20 11,520 01/01/21 10,069 And then the total death rate goes nuts 08/01/21 17,751 15/01/21 18,042 22/01/01 18,676 Data sources.. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nglandandwales What has caused the massive spike in deaths? Why is it affecting the elderly more in January than December? And why haven't the media investigated?

10 Feb 2021, 17:44	#58582
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,746	I wonder will the vaccines end up killing more people than the virus did.