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CarylB · 25 Jan 2004, 11:41

The DVD is the one which it has been announced will be released of Meat's concert with the MSO in Melbourne next month (next moth for the oncert that is

)

The thread's on:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthr...t=3098&start=0

White of High · 25 Jan 2004, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

we are we going to put out 20 live board tapres from the shows in the UK as soon as April, one from every city so that people can hear the show from the city the attented, and People like that woman in Glassgow can hear I wasn't out of pitch all night and and not out of time.. I figured her out thought. she sings along with the record and if I'm not singing just like the record I'm out of time. I f I did the record over it wouldn't be the same. I never sing the song the same wasy twice. she needs to get out more. Or else she is a Stefford wife.

Will be it released in Hungary???

PanicLord · 25 Jan 2004, 11:43

WOOHOO!

Thanks CarylB - have you been having a wee dram? Or are some of your fingers missing?

rockfenris2005 · 25 Jan 2004, 12:11

Let's pray you get it White Of High. I totally denounce fans getting special privileges. Everyone should be treated equal. I hope you get it. Actually, I'm praying on my life you will. And peoples, don't talk over me

CarylB · 25 Jan 2004, 13:50

We won't talk over you if you don't talk tosh .. but presume it's OK to respond?

The only reason I asked if these would be sold through a fanclub website is that I have no idea what the distribution costs to sell 20 CDs (given each show is on one .. I don't know if that is the case) through normal retail outlets worldwide, but imagine it would be prohibitive and certainly discourage recording companies unless they anticipated huge sales.

Releasing them for sale just in the UK could be viewed as being limited, unless for eg Amazon and HMV took them on board. But people wpuld no doubt get friends to purchase on their behalf, just as they would ig they were sold through a fansite.

I was just asking the question, so try not to get sniffy Ryan. Let's see what the answer is, but my guess is that the economics will have to be taken into account. Let's just be glad they WILL be made available, and any way Meat decides, rather than start finding a problem :)

hawkmoonnl · 25 Jan 2004, 14:17

Is it April already?

There are a few options the way those cd's can be sold. A little extra information. A few bands already release their shows on cd: Duran Duran, The Who, Pearl Jam. In record shops here in The Netherlands i've seen several copies of shows from Pearl Jam. Though never seen Duran Duran and The Who in store. So that's one option, to distribute it to record stores. Another option is to buy them online. From the three artists mentioned above you can order them at: http://www.themusic.com The price of a single show is app. $25 There is also a possibility to buy a collector box including all shows. You better start saving some money...

And last but not least Meat Loaf could choose to sell them at his own site. Don't think he will though, cause he l probably wants to reach a large audience and not everybody is aware of his site.

PanicLord · 25 Jan 2004, 14:23

Meat said: "we are we going to put out 20 live board tapes from the shows in the UK as soon as April, one from every city so that people can hear the show from the city the attented."

I would guess that these would mostly through the new official Meat Loaf website, although that is PURELY a guess. This is because I can't see most shops or websites being interested in holding huge amounts of similar CDs. Having said that, all the music stores round my way have a decent stock of Meaty albums at the moment, especially Live Around The World. Perhaps a compilation of all the best versions of each song might do well commercially.

But anyway, I don't think that doing it through his official site would be unfair - I've not heard anything (from the newsletter that I signed up to) about having to pay for ALL access to the site, so I would imagine that it is only premium content you would have to pay for. Any CDs etc would surely be sold on the free access bit, otherwise you are limiting your potential audience.

How can you talk over someone on a website anyway?

Anyway, I can't wait for the CDs to be released - Meat's voice is fantastic and the band really rocks. It would be nice to have some of Kasim's opening songs on it too.

**SueW** · 25 Jan 2004, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex2003

Anyway, I can't wait for the CDs to be released - Meat's voice is fantastic and the band really rocks. It would be nice to have some of Kasim's opening songs on it too.

Kasim is planning to record his forthcoming solo gig on Staten Island on 7th February for a DVD / CD so you will be able to get hold of a copy of his live music.

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

PanicLord · 25 Jan 2004, 15:13

Great news, thanks Sue!

CarylB · 25 Jan 2004, 15:18

TRex said:

Quote:

This is because I can't see most shops or websites being interested in holding huge amounts of similar CDs.

Nor can I really, even for one of the flavour of the year bands for kids. And unless Meat wants to get into the distribution business, you'd need a recording company to take this on anyway.

Quote:

Having said that, all the music stores round my way have a decent stock of Meaty albums at the moment, especially Live Around The World. Perhaps a compilation of all the best versions of each song might do well commercially.

Yes, and of course that could have reference to the fansite in the notes :)

Lemon Girl · 25 Jan 2004, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkmoonnl

Is it April already?

There are a few options the way those cd's can be sold. A little extra information. A few bands already release their shows on cd: Duran Duran, The Who, Pearl Jam. In record shops here in The Netherlands i've seen several copies of shows from Pearl Jam. Though never seen Duran Duran and The Who in store. So that's one option, to distribute it to record stores. Another option is to buy them online. From the three artists mentioned above you can order them at: http://www.themusic.com The price of a single show is app. $25 There is also a possibility to buy a collector box including all shows. You better start saving some money...

And last but not least Meat Loaf could choose to sell them at his own site. Don't think he will though, cause he l probably wants to reach a large audience and not everybody is aware of his site.

That's what I was thinking this morning. I bought one of the Peter Gabriel cds from the music.com. They only released the US shows so I couldn't get the one I went to at Wembley. They were sold via that website which was linked from his main fan site.

It will be great to be able to buy a copy of the show I was at. It's always great to have some live stuff anyway. The question is will I be able to stick at just one??

Renegade Angel · 25 Jan 2004, 20:14

Great news and what a good idea!!!
I really hope that the Sheffield gig from 15th Jan is released as this was a great gig and has had a good reaction from the fans who have been to a lot of the UK shows.

Deb · 25 Jan 2004, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB

And I've just heard from eBay that they have removed the illicit recording of the Newcastle concert. From the still used in the listing it looks like the person who recorded it wasn't even in the front row! eBay are sometimes painfully slow to act on this kind of thing, but this time they got their cyber bum in gear :)

What difference does them not being in the front row make, or am I being dense and very tired and confused lol...

great news about the shows being relesead btw Meat

Deb

Deb · 25 Jan 2004, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SueW

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex2003

Anyway, I can't wait for the CDs to be released - Meat's voice is fantastic and the band really rocks. It would be nice to have some of Kasim's opening songs on it too.

Kasim is planning to record his forthcoming solo gig on Staten Island on 7th February for a DVD / CD so you will be able to get hold of a copy of his live music.

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

EXCELLENT NEWS!!

ChrisBelfast · 25 Jan 2004, 20:28

Regards Kaim, I guess it'll only be available through spheresounds...... i take it its a bit optimistic to think that you could walk into the new releases section of HMV and pick one up?

Great news also Meat - its about time we got some recent live stuff!

*AndyK* · 25 Jan 2004, 20:42

Excellent News!!! Thanks Meat for letting us know!!

And thanks to Sue for the Kasim news as well, if I can't be in NY then to see the show after the event will be great!

AndyK
.... who really is going to go and collapse on that sofa soon!!!

CarylB · 25 Jan 2004, 21:17

Quote:

What difference does them not being in the front row make, or am I being dense and very tired and confused lol...

I would have thought a videotape taken with presumably a pretty small camcorder held aloft a few rows back from the front would be just about as poor quality as you could get.

badger · 25 Jan 2004, 21:32

Great news about the tapes, should be great!

As for bootlegs. Whoa where to start! Ummm. Best not to actually.

Rock on!

Deb · 25 Jan 2004, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB

Quote:

What difference does them not being in the front row make, or am I being dense and very tired and confused lol...

I would have thought a videotape taken with presumably a pretty small camcorder held aloft a few rows back from the front would be just about as poor quality as you could get.

I dunno, a video from the front row would be pretty poor. You wouldnt get the whole of the stage in lol.

I have 100's of Bon jovi bootlegs (bootlegs are very much normal with Bon Jovi shows and something Jon actually promotes) and they are all taken from further back in the crowd. Plus the sounds better from further back, not on top of the speakers.

Deb

Pudding · 26 Jan 2004, 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

It's not fair for just the privileged few to get these cds, just like it's not fair for MLOIFC to get first pick on this and that.

What a silly bloody statement, of course it's fair. If Meat isn't going to widely distribute the tapes, CD's or whatever then why not let the members of the OIFC get first pickings? What do they pay their membership fee for? I'm not a member and have no real desire to become one; but if I was, then I'd be pretty pissed off if I wasn't near the front of the queue and they ran out by the time it came to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

At least the Steinfans are equal, and not laid out in ranks - first class, second class, all that nonsense.

Yes that maybe true but it's amazing how when something is on offer how many "LURKERS" come out of the woodwork and ask for a copy, without any inclination to share what they've got with a few other people. I ask you, if you WERE a member of say The Jim Steinman Fan Club and paid $20 a year for the privilege and something came out, wouldn't you want first pickings? You'd spit the dummy bigtime if your neighbour who isn't a member got whatever it was before you.

Pud:o]

sherrie87 · 26 Jan 2004, 02:57

The release of UK board tapes is the best news that I've heard in months! (The only thing that could possibly top that news is the booking of another US leg of the tour!

) Whether released just in the UK or through the soon to be running (hopefully!) new official site, I see no inequity in the distribution of them. Even if only released in limited countries, those who really want a CD can get them. I got the UK and Austrailian versions of CHSIB quite easily, and I would imagine it would be similar with these board tapes. (And lets be honest, it would most assuredly be worth a bit of effort to get board tapes of live Meat shows!) I see my credit card bill growing by the moment....there's no way I can buy just one...or one dozen...oy, my husband will not be allowed to view the bills for a good while after these tapes are released!

Thanks for the great news Meat! You are too good to us!

Sherrie

Dave · 26 Jan 2004, 05:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherrie87

oy, my husband will not be allowed to view the bills for a good while after these tapes are released!

Hee Hee!

Maybe the PayPal will be fairly anonymous so you might get lucky, who knows!!??!!

Good luck either way!

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

Keep Rocking · 26 Jan 2004, 09:33

Hi Fire Ball!
Great news that you will make some show recordings available for us!
Just one small plea: is it possible that you will also release a copy of the show in Trier?

Please, please, don't take me wrong: I'm not one of these "but"-sayers(good with the UK-copys but can you ...)
It is just that the show in Trier meens very much to me personally, I think it was pure magic and you guys on stage seems to feel that also.

If it is impossible to release the Trier show I will happily buy one (or more) of the UK shows

Have a great time

Yvonne

Michael Marxen · 26 Jan 2004, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

we are we going to put out 20 live board tapres from the shows in the UK as soon as April, I f I did the record over it wouldn't be the same. I never sing the song the same wasy twice.

Exactly that is the reason that makes me attend multiple shows. Meat lifts the songs up to another level, different each night! Unlike sterile sounding Celine Dion. Unlike reproducing musical productions. Unlike anything...

I.e. I would kill for a recording of the "GIVE ME SOME FIRES" part in Frying Pan! So having the shows released on audio is too good to be true!

MasterEngineer · 26 Jan 2004, 17:18

As he said in an German interview:

"I am not lazy.... I'm just slow!"

So I hope that this Concert-cd doesn't make any conflict with the Australian Orchestra version, which seems definitely to be in planning..... *everypossiblefingercrossed* 2 live CDs in one year... cannot wait to see them!

ME

25 Jan 2004, 11:41	#51
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	The DVD is the one which it has been announced will be released of Meat's concert with the MSO in Melbourne next month (next moth for the oncert that is ) The thread's on: http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthr...t=3098&start=0

25 Jan 2004, 11:43	#53
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,654	WOOHOO! Thanks CarylB - have you been having a wee dram? Or are some of your fingers missing?

25 Jan 2004, 12:11	#54
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Let's pray you get it White Of High. I totally denounce fans getting special privileges. Everyone should be treated equal. I hope you get it. Actually, I'm praying on my life you will. And peoples, don't talk over me

25 Jan 2004, 13:50	#55
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	We won't talk over you if you don't talk tosh .. but presume it's OK to respond? The only reason I asked if these would be sold through a fanclub website is that I have no idea what the distribution costs to sell 20 CDs (given each show is on one .. I don't know if that is the case) through normal retail outlets worldwide, but imagine it would be prohibitive and certainly discourage recording companies unless they anticipated huge sales. Releasing them for sale just in the UK could be viewed as being limited, unless for eg Amazon and HMV took them on board. But people wpuld no doubt get friends to purchase on their behalf, just as they would ig they were sold through a fansite. I was just asking the question, so try not to get sniffy Ryan. Let's see what the answer is, but my guess is that the economics will have to be taken into account. Let's just be glad they WILL be made available, and any way Meat decides, rather than start finding a problem :)

25 Jan 2004, 14:17	#56
hawkmoonnl Loafer Join Date: 23.06.2002 Location: Universe Posts: 60	Is it April already? There are a few options the way those cd's can be sold. A little extra information. A few bands already release their shows on cd: Duran Duran, The Who, Pearl Jam. In record shops here in The Netherlands i've seen several copies of shows from Pearl Jam. Though never seen Duran Duran and The Who in store. So that's one option, to distribute it to record stores. Another option is to buy them online. From the three artists mentioned above you can order them at: http://www.themusic.com The price of a single show is app. $25 There is also a possibility to buy a collector box including all shows. You better start saving some money... And last but not least Meat Loaf could choose to sell them at his own site. Don't think he will though, cause he l probably wants to reach a large audience and not everybody is aware of his site.

25 Jan 2004, 14:23	#57
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,654	Meat said: "we are we going to put out 20 live board tapes from the shows in the UK as soon as April, one from every city so that people can hear the show from the city the attented." I would guess that these would mostly through the new official Meat Loaf website, although that is PURELY a guess. This is because I can't see most shops or websites being interested in holding huge amounts of similar CDs. Having said that, all the music stores round my way have a decent stock of Meaty albums at the moment, especially Live Around The World. Perhaps a compilation of all the best versions of each song might do well commercially. But anyway, I don't think that doing it through his official site would be unfair - I've not heard anything (from the newsletter that I signed up to) about having to pay for ALL access to the site, so I would imagine that it is only premium content you would have to pay for. Any CDs etc would surely be sold on the free access bit, otherwise you are limiting your potential audience. How can you talk over someone on a website anyway? Anyway, I can't wait for the CDs to be released - Meat's voice is fantastic and the band really rocks. It would be nice to have some of Kasim's opening songs on it too.

25 Jan 2004, 15:13	#59
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,654	Great news, thanks Sue!

25 Jan 2004, 20:14	#62
Renegade Angel Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: UK Posts: 551	Great news and what a good idea!!! I really hope that the Sheffield gig from 15th Jan is released as this was a great gig and has had a good reaction from the fans who have been to a lot of the UK shows.

25 Jan 2004, 20:28	#65
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	Regards Kaim, I guess it'll only be available through spheresounds...... i take it its a bit optimistic to think that you could walk into the new releases section of HMV and pick one up? Great news also Meat - its about time we got some recent live stuff!

25 Jan 2004, 20:42	#66
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Excellent News!!! Thanks Meat for letting us know!! And thanks to Sue for the Kasim news as well, if I can't be in NY then to see the show after the event will be great! AndyK .... who really is going to go and collapse on that sofa soon!!!

25 Jan 2004, 21:32	#68
badger Super Loafer Join Date: 23.10.2002 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 511	Great news about the tapes, should be great! As for bootlegs. Whoa where to start! Ummm. Best not to actually. Rock on!

26 Jan 2004, 02:57	#71
sherrie87 Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.02.2003 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,262	The release of UK board tapes is the best news that I've heard in months! (The only thing that could possibly top that news is the booking of another US leg of the tour! ) Whether released just in the UK or through the soon to be running (hopefully!) new official site, I see no inequity in the distribution of them. Even if only released in limited countries, those who really want a CD can get them. I got the UK and Austrailian versions of CHSIB quite easily, and I would imagine it would be similar with these board tapes. (And lets be honest, it would most assuredly be worth a bit of effort to get board tapes of live Meat shows!) I see my credit card bill growing by the moment....there's no way I can buy just one...or one dozen...oy, my husband will not be allowed to view the bills for a good while after these tapes are released! Thanks for the great news Meat! You are too good to us! Sherrie

26 Jan 2004, 09:33	#73
Keep Rocking Super Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Location: Sitting on the steps outside, looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 820	Hi Fire Ball! Great news that you will make some show recordings available for us! Just one small plea: is it possible that you will also release a copy of the show in Trier? Please, please, don't take me wrong: I'm not one of these "but"-sayers(good with the UK-copys but can you ...) It is just that the show in Trier meens very much to me personally, I think it was pure magic and you guys on stage seems to feel that also. If it is impossible to release the Trier show I will happily buy one (or more) of the UK shows Have a great time Yvonne

26 Jan 2004, 17:18	#75
MasterEngineer Senior Loafer Join Date: 03.10.2003 Location: ...ask CC ;-) Posts: 141	As he said in an German interview: "I am not lazy.... I'm just slow!" So I hope that this Concert-cd doesn't make any conflict with the Australian Orchestra version, which seems definitely to be in planning..... everypossiblefingercrossed 2 live CDs in one year... cannot wait to see them! ME