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CarylB · 23 Apr 2003, 15:46

Hi Sin

I think perhaps we should do both! I agree a lot of individual thanks would be great.
Finally got to speak to Hallam FM re their playlist .. which Meat's not on. Quite an unpleasant little person who said if I wanted to hear the song so much why didn't I go out and buy it!! He wouldn't even play it if I took a cooy round there .. he said he'd play it only if Meat phoned him and asked him personally!!

So there you are Fireball .. the number's 0114 221 4444 .. sheesh!!!!

original sin · 23 Apr 2003, 15:49

Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/

Scroll down on the left there is a message board and contact us

Also pics of MEAT LOAF!!!!!

Fire Ball per Caryl's last post phone up!

Greavzyboy · 23 Apr 2003, 15:57

Yo!

Has everyone read my topic entitled "Top Of The Pops Review".
If you haven't yet, I think you better take a look.

Yours, Greavzyboy

CarylB · 23 Apr 2003, 15:59

Thanks for that Sin .. lol .. and boy wouldn't it be great to have the guy at Hallam fm have to EAT HIS WORDS!!!!!!!

)

Dave · 23 Apr 2003, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by original sin

BTW is there a limit to the number of replies to a thread? are we gonna get cut off in our prime

NEVER!!!

Keep postin!!!

Just keep it POSITIVE!!!

original sin · 23 Apr 2003, 16:05

Glad to hear that David

Positive is my middle name

Original

Positive

Sin

cerysmeatloaf · 23 Apr 2003, 17:20

ok so i got an e mail back from wow cd to find out where my ablum is they said they r carnt send it to me untillit has been relisted everywhere so i cansled it and im going to get it tonight
um did i miss some thing whats this about saying ty to top of the pops what did they do sorry i must have missed somthing

from cerysmeatloaf

MBrevard · 23 Apr 2003, 17:35

Hi! I'm SO sorry to hear what happened with the album for you! Sounds like a REALLY lame excuse. But at least, it gave you a good excuse to cancel and go get it right away in your local area.

The good news, if you missed it, is that Meat IS going to be on the TOTP this Friday!! This was something he very much wanted, so we can all be very happy for him. It gives the song/album National exposure and that's exactly what it needs!!

It's wonderful news, isn't it??!!!

cerysmeatloaf · 23 Apr 2003, 17:56

oh wow grate its about time some one good went on totp lol and now every one is gona know that the single is out to buy cool

from cerysmeatloaf

CarylB · 23 Apr 2003, 18:03

I noticed MB said:
..... with Meat on the TOTP this coming Friday, and the National exposure he'll get there, our 'job' here will probably be completed after the Chart show on Sunday......

I'd dearly like to think so, but it depends on his chart ranking. TOTP IS a national tv show, and it's very good and important he's on it, but it will be a four minute burst which many people won't see

Many radio stations still don't have it on their playlist, so I'd hope some people would want to continue trying to get it airtime. I certainly will, because I'd love to see this go to No 1, and I'm not sure it will be this week.

Plus there's the issue that shops seem to be running out of supplies. Good news indeed if Mercury made sure the shops had large initial stocks when they were finally delivered .. although we don't know if they did. And if they didn't have faith in the single perhaps they only suggested a small stock initially? I have no idea how ordering works, but my guess is the company weren't suggesting to the buyers that they should expect a rush!

And non-availability will be an issue if for example TOTP encourages people to want to get the single, and it's not there when they go to buy it.

original sin · 23 Apr 2003, 18:15

Caryl I totally agree airtime is what we have needed for the last 10 days!

Its got to be on playlists to get air time and I don't think we've crossed that hurdle yet!

I wonder if album sales will affect single sales? I know i've asked this before but I think it may do so. Many people may just buy the album.
I think the album is gonna storm in and stay....hopefuly followed up quickly with another single release

Does anyone have any ideas on the text alerts i mentioned through smash hits and TOTP?

CarylB · 23 Apr 2003, 18:24

Sorry can't help re text alerts

re the effect of the album on singles sales .. this could happen .. and with the right promotion it WOULDN'T .. ONLY the single has the video of the title track which should have clinched its success ..

Guess we need reviews/articles in magazines .. I asked the on-line company I'm sending the single to for review to emphasise that .. makes you feel like walking uo and down outside HMV wearing a sandwich board doesn't it?!!

How to get the word out that the single is special and should be seen as an essential addition to the album .. that's our next poser I guess ..

Will another single follow? Only Fireballs knows .. but for the company to release one this one has to be a real storming success .. remember the trouble he said he had before in getting a record comoany to release more than one single?

original sin · 23 Apr 2003, 18:28

Fireballs!!!

caryl you know summat i don't

cerysmeatloaf · 23 Apr 2003, 18:54

ive just e mail a radio station called fresh hits they dont seen to have meatloaf on there play list so i asked them when r they going to get it when i here from them i will let u all know

MBrevard · 23 Apr 2003, 18:58

Way to go, cerysmeatloaf!! That's the way to do it! We'll be waiting for your report, when you hear something!!

You're doing a great job! Keep it up!

ChrisBelfast · 23 Apr 2003, 19:36

the cd is even harder to come by this week than last. went into places that had it last week just out of interest and it wasn't there. Most places only stock the top 20. smaller places even the top 10 just. All the publicising of the single is pointless i believe. As meet said they only made so many copies and 2/3 have been sold. Don't know where the rest are but they sure aren't in belfast. We need to focus on the album now more so than the single. Im not saying give up totally on the single but Meat himself said it wont go any higher in the charts!

ChrisBelfast · 23 Apr 2003, 19:39

Also, Belfast radio is giving the song ALOT of air play. Perhaps 4/5 times a day on one station. Thats A-List material. However, at the price os singles and albums now, if it was me personally and i heard the song, rather than buy the single at 4 pounds i would put an extra five pounds to it and go get the album instead. Also the single was released too close to that of the album so i believe everyone is going to buy album and only die hard fans will buy single. We have helped fireball get it into the charts and onto TOTP so perhaps the album is our main proirity and making sure the single is on every radio station. If you heard a really good song on the radio and knew you could get the whole album for a few pounds more what would you do?

CarylB · 23 Apr 2003, 19:52

I still think people can be wooed into buying the single if they know that the Video for CHSIB, the album's title track, is only on the single. And the prices are such that the two together come to less than many albums these days .. £13 for the two? A bargain compared to many today

Meat believes the single could be a hit like Anything For Love .. and if he does, so do I. And if he wants me to try to get it there .. I'll do my damndest

meatmadpat · 23 Apr 2003, 19:55

Hi meatloafisgod, I don't think it's about saving money. Meat asked us to buy lots of singles and that's what we did :) I managed to find 3 kept one for myself gave others to my 2 sisters for Easter they were very pleased

If I could have found any more in the shops I would have bought another 3. Off to buy the album tomorrow

mellis107 · 23 Apr 2003, 20:14

Just rembered, I saw an advert on Tv yesterday for the album. It showed a long(ish) clip of the video for CHSIB and gave all the usual "Meat Loaf is back....album out now" etc. There was also a message regarding the tour in November. OK, so it was only daytime ITV, but its shows the record company is trying to push the album. TV airtime is expensive. If they'd only push for a slot in between Cornoation Street, or something, then it would really get some exposure.

I'm sorry, but the attitude of the guy at Hallam FM stinks!

I, for one will be boycotting that station in the future. Not only for their ill conceived notions of not playing Meat Loaf, nor for the brush off Caryl B apparently had (although these are a factor), but also for the tripe they play constantly. I swear, they've only got 10 CDs which they repeat over and over again all day!

Just something to note about Hallam FM. They aren't playing Meats song, right? But when Meat performs in Sheffield in November, he'll be playing at the Hallam FM arena!! Left hand and right hand...eh?

mike

ChrisBelfast · 23 Apr 2003, 20:22

Caryol, im not saying the song shouldnt be a hit! what im saying is its now to late to make the song a hit. I think CHSIB was the greatest Meat single by far since anything for Love and it should have went in the charts at number one - but it didnt. Meat said there are only so many copies left and that the single will not go any higher. Obvoiusly we want to sell whats left but its a matter of finding them first. If the possibility of hearing a new song (Unsaid) did not make people go for the single then a video of CHSIB won't. Our only hope is after hearing the album, the people are dying for more meat loaf and buy the single to hear 'unsaid'. Again, if they can find a copy.

ChrisBelfast · 23 Apr 2003, 20:28

Also as you said, Meat wanted the song to be a hit and you will do your best. So did I. But now even Meat has said its too late for the single - they arent there to buy??!! I am so saddened by not CHSIB chart position but by Mercury only printing a few thousand of them. It can take up to 100,000 copies of a song sold for it 2 become number one!! Meat sold 3,000 odd and became number 31 - thats good! If you talk everyone into buying the single then what will happen when the few remaining copies run out? People will be disapointed. Im not telling you what to do but after buying 10 copies of the single, 1 german album and 4 UK albums, its the album im now concentrating on promoting. Your ideas are brilliant, and if we can get the single on every radio playlist then the albums sales will rocket!! Im just afraid that the single is basically distinct now because of the soo few little made!!?? Mercury were mad!!!!!!

cerysmeatloaf · 23 Apr 2003, 20:41

we grate news i cancelled the album with cd wow cos of all that hasle and ive just been down to bye it now its grate and im so happy

from cerysmeatloaf

Jen · 23 Apr 2003, 21:01

Hay all

Great news about Top of the Pops

Last I heard Meat was still #3 on the Box, and the album is #5 on Amazon UK.

Jen

CarylB · 23 Apr 2003, 21:16

Just heard from someone in the company that Meat is No2 on the album today at midweek .. also
I NEED TO KNOW URGENTLY PLEASE

Any stores where the single and/or the album is out of stock as far as you know
Any radio station that has said it does not have a copy to play

Please email me the information at caryl@republic-of-loafdom.com marked CHSIB INFO so I can get this information to Meat's people

Thank you

23 Apr 2003, 17:20	#582
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	couldnt have said it better ok so i got an e mail back from wow cd to find out where my ablum is they said they r carnt send it to me untillit has been relisted everywhere so i cansled it and im going to get it tonight um did i miss some thing whats this about saying ty to top of the pops what did they do sorry i must have missed somthing from cerysmeatloaf

23 Apr 2003, 17:56	#584
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	couldnt have said it better oh wow grate its about time some one good went on totp lol and now every one is gona know that the single is out to buy cool from cerysmeatloaf

23 Apr 2003, 18:54	#589
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	couldnt have said it better ive just e mail a radio station called fresh hits they dont seen to have meatloaf on there play list so i asked them when r they going to get it when i here from them i will let u all know

23 Apr 2003, 20:41	#598
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	couldnt have said it better we grate news i cancelled the album with cd wow cos of all that hasle and ive just been down to bye it now its grate and im so happy from cerysmeatloaf

23 Apr 2003, 15:46	#576
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Hi Sin I think perhaps we should do both! I agree a lot of individual thanks would be great. Finally got to speak to Hallam FM re their playlist .. which Meat's not on. Quite an unpleasant little person who said if I wanted to hear the song so much why didn't I go out and buy it!! He wouldn't even play it if I took a cooy round there .. he said he'd play it only if Meat phoned him and asked him personally!! So there you are Fireball .. the number's 0114 221 4444 .. sheesh!!!!

23 Apr 2003, 15:49	#577
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/ Scroll down on the left there is a message board and contact us Also pics of MEAT LOAF!!!!! Fire Ball per Caryl's last post phone up!

23 Apr 2003, 15:57	#578
Greavzyboy Loafer Join Date: 26.01.2003 Location: Doncaster, England Posts: 56	Yo! Has everyone read my topic entitled "Top Of The Pops Review". If you haven't yet, I think you better take a look. Yours, Greavzyboy

23 Apr 2003, 15:59	#579
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Thanks for that Sin .. lol .. and boy wouldn't it be great to have the guy at Hallam fm have to EAT HIS WORDS!!!!!!! )

23 Apr 2003, 16:05	#581
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Glad to hear that David Positive is my middle name Original Positive Sin

23 Apr 2003, 17:35	#583
MBrevard Super Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2003 Location: Deceased Posts: 761	Hi! I'm SO sorry to hear what happened with the album for you! Sounds like a REALLY lame excuse. But at least, it gave you a good excuse to cancel and go get it right away in your local area. The good news, if you missed it, is that Meat IS going to be on the TOTP this Friday!! This was something he very much wanted, so we can all be very happy for him. It gives the song/album National exposure and that's exactly what it needs!! It's wonderful news, isn't it??!!!

23 Apr 2003, 18:03	#585
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I noticed MB said: ..... with Meat on the TOTP this coming Friday, and the National exposure he'll get there, our 'job' here will probably be completed after the Chart show on Sunday...... I'd dearly like to think so, but it depends on his chart ranking. TOTP IS a national tv show, and it's very good and important he's on it, but it will be a four minute burst which many people won't see Many radio stations still don't have it on their playlist, so I'd hope some people would want to continue trying to get it airtime. I certainly will, because I'd love to see this go to No 1, and I'm not sure it will be this week. Plus there's the issue that shops seem to be running out of supplies. Good news indeed if Mercury made sure the shops had large initial stocks when they were finally delivered .. although we don't know if they did. And if they didn't have faith in the single perhaps they only suggested a small stock initially? I have no idea how ordering works, but my guess is the company weren't suggesting to the buyers that they should expect a rush! And non-availability will be an issue if for example TOTP encourages people to want to get the single, and it's not there when they go to buy it.

23 Apr 2003, 18:15	#586
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Caryl I totally agree airtime is what we have needed for the last 10 days! Its got to be on playlists to get air time and I don't think we've crossed that hurdle yet! I wonder if album sales will affect single sales? I know i've asked this before but I think it may do so. Many people may just buy the album. I think the album is gonna storm in and stay....hopefuly followed up quickly with another single release Does anyone have any ideas on the text alerts i mentioned through smash hits and TOTP?

23 Apr 2003, 18:24	#587
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Sorry can't help re text alerts re the effect of the album on singles sales .. this could happen .. and with the right promotion it WOULDN'T .. ONLY the single has the video of the title track which should have clinched its success .. Guess we need reviews/articles in magazines .. I asked the on-line company I'm sending the single to for review to emphasise that .. makes you feel like walking uo and down outside HMV wearing a sandwich board doesn't it?!! How to get the word out that the single is special and should be seen as an essential addition to the album .. that's our next poser I guess .. Will another single follow? Only Fireballs knows .. but for the company to release one this one has to be a real storming success .. remember the trouble he said he had before in getting a record comoany to release more than one single?

23 Apr 2003, 18:28	#588
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Fireballs!!! caryl you know summat i don't

23 Apr 2003, 18:58	#590
MBrevard Super Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2003 Location: Deceased Posts: 761	Way to go, cerysmeatloaf!! That's the way to do it! We'll be waiting for your report, when you hear something!! You're doing a great job! Keep it up!

23 Apr 2003, 19:36	#591
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	the cd is even harder to come by this week than last. went into places that had it last week just out of interest and it wasn't there. Most places only stock the top 20. smaller places even the top 10 just. All the publicising of the single is pointless i believe. As meet said they only made so many copies and 2/3 have been sold. Don't know where the rest are but they sure aren't in belfast. We need to focus on the album now more so than the single. Im not saying give up totally on the single but Meat himself said it wont go any higher in the charts!

23 Apr 2003, 19:39	#592
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	Also, Belfast radio is giving the song ALOT of air play. Perhaps 4/5 times a day on one station. Thats A-List material. However, at the price os singles and albums now, if it was me personally and i heard the song, rather than buy the single at 4 pounds i would put an extra five pounds to it and go get the album instead. Also the single was released too close to that of the album so i believe everyone is going to buy album and only die hard fans will buy single. We have helped fireball get it into the charts and onto TOTP so perhaps the album is our main proirity and making sure the single is on every radio station. If you heard a really good song on the radio and knew you could get the whole album for a few pounds more what would you do?

23 Apr 2003, 19:52	#593
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I still think people can be wooed into buying the single if they know that the Video for CHSIB, the album's title track, is only on the single. And the prices are such that the two together come to less than many albums these days .. £13 for the two? A bargain compared to many today Meat believes the single could be a hit like Anything For Love .. and if he does, so do I. And if he wants me to try to get it there .. I'll do my damndest

23 Apr 2003, 19:55	#594
meatmadpat Loafer Join Date: 09.04.2003 Location: Barnsley South Yorkshire UK Posts: 74	Hi meatloafisgod, I don't think it's about saving money. Meat asked us to buy lots of singles and that's what we did :) I managed to find 3 kept one for myself gave others to my 2 sisters for Easter they were very pleased If I could have found any more in the shops I would have bought another 3. Off to buy the album tomorrow

23 Apr 2003, 20:14	#595
mellis107 Senior Loafer Join Date: 05.02.2003 Location: Rotherham, England Posts: 127	Just rembered, I saw an advert on Tv yesterday for the album. It showed a long(ish) clip of the video for CHSIB and gave all the usual "Meat Loaf is back....album out now" etc. There was also a message regarding the tour in November. OK, so it was only daytime ITV, but its shows the record company is trying to push the album. TV airtime is expensive. If they'd only push for a slot in between Cornoation Street, or something, then it would really get some exposure. I'm sorry, but the attitude of the guy at Hallam FM stinks! I, for one will be boycotting that station in the future. Not only for their ill conceived notions of not playing Meat Loaf, nor for the brush off Caryl B apparently had (although these are a factor), but also for the tripe they play constantly. I swear, they've only got 10 CDs which they repeat over and over again all day! Just something to note about Hallam FM. They aren't playing Meats song, right? But when Meat performs in Sheffield in November, he'll be playing at the Hallam FM arena!! Left hand and right hand...eh? mike

23 Apr 2003, 20:22	#596
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	Caryol, im not saying the song shouldnt be a hit! what im saying is its now to late to make the song a hit. I think CHSIB was the greatest Meat single by far since anything for Love and it should have went in the charts at number one - but it didnt. Meat said there are only so many copies left and that the single will not go any higher. Obvoiusly we want to sell whats left but its a matter of finding them first. If the possibility of hearing a new song (Unsaid) did not make people go for the single then a video of CHSIB won't. Our only hope is after hearing the album, the people are dying for more meat loaf and buy the single to hear 'unsaid'. Again, if they can find a copy.

23 Apr 2003, 20:28	#597
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	Also as you said, Meat wanted the song to be a hit and you will do your best. So did I. But now even Meat has said its too late for the single - they arent there to buy??!! I am so saddened by not CHSIB chart position but by Mercury only printing a few thousand of them. It can take up to 100,000 copies of a song sold for it 2 become number one!! Meat sold 3,000 odd and became number 31 - thats good! If you talk everyone into buying the single then what will happen when the few remaining copies run out? People will be disapointed. Im not telling you what to do but after buying 10 copies of the single, 1 german album and 4 UK albums, its the album im now concentrating on promoting. Your ideas are brilliant, and if we can get the single on every radio playlist then the albums sales will rocket!! Im just afraid that the single is basically distinct now because of the soo few little made!!?? Mercury were mad!!!!!!

23 Apr 2003, 21:01	#599
Jen Arrrgh! Join Date: 01.03.2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,938	Hay all Great news about Top of the Pops Last I heard Meat was still #3 on the Box, and the album is #5 on Amazon UK. Jen

23 Apr 2003, 21:16	#600
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Just heard from someone in the company that Meat is No2 on the album today at midweek .. also I NEED TO KNOW URGENTLY PLEASE Any stores where the single and/or the album is out of stock as far as you know Any radio station that has said it does not have a copy to play Please email me the information at caryl@republic-of-loafdom.com marked CHSIB INFO so I can get this information to Meat's people Thank you