Dead Ringer Movie - Page 2

PrissLoaf · 25 Nov 2005, 08:13

thanks Pud.

I should've known you would have the answer! :)

I'm new to the forums (but not the music) and have read a lot of informative posts by you (over at Rockman too).

Pudding · 25 Nov 2005, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrissLoaf

have read a lot of informative posts by you (over at Rockman too).

Oh dear

Take no notice of half my mad rambles over at Rockman

most people over there are a bit nucking futs

Pud

PrissLoaf · 26 Nov 2005, 09:09

ROFL! The best was about Steinman being a kitten

Pudding · 26 Nov 2005, 09:18

You're talking about Susan! She appeared out on nowhere and started rambling on about Jim Steinman being a cat

that's what promted the board being changed to a registered one if you want to post. By all accounts this Susan's ISP traced back to California, who'd have though she came from the land of fruits and nuts

Pud

PrissLoaf · 26 Nov 2005, 09:42

yep, that's the one. ~~~ meeeowww ~~~

thanks for the info on Rockman. I'd probably be in over my head over there. I think Jim is a phenomenal writer, but I don't know as much background info as a lot of the others

dottie · 26 Nov 2005, 19:25

I have a copy of the video on a TV programme (cann't remember which) video tape, just need to find which one of the 100 hours I have!

I hope to be in receipt of a DVD/video recorder for Xmas so if you can hold on that long - I'll willing search it out for you and place on DVD....

Pudding · 26 Nov 2005, 22:20

So you actually have the Dead Ringer movie? not concert but the actual movie - holy crapsticks

If you can convert it to DVD, I don't mind running off some copies and shipping them out. However, if you've been naught this year and Santa doesn't give you a DVD/Video recorder, I know some people who could convert it for you and I'd still run off some copies and ship them out.

Pud

dottie · 27 Nov 2005, 13:01

yep thats correct Pud, taped it off the tv years ago (top of the pops If I recall) this is the one isn't it.... just need to locate it amongst the tapes I have and hey presto father christmas is going to buy me the means to do it

Just hang on in there folks......

Elijah's way · 27 Nov 2005, 15:25

I would love to get ahold of a copy, lemme know if this happens.

dottie · 27 Nov 2005, 21:07

Well I've found it - and just want to confirm it is the Dead Ringer Video with Cher we're all talking about isn't it?

Lucky for me it was on the VH1 Meat Loaf Day.......

Can some one confirm regarding above please..........

Vickip · 27 Nov 2005, 21:49

I think they're talking about the movie called "Dead Ringer" that Meat filmed in 1981, not the music video he filmed with Cher. The movie itself was never officially released.

Vicki

dottie · 27 Nov 2005, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I think they're talking about the movie called "Dead Ringer" that Meat filmed in 1981, not the music video he filmed with Cher. The movie itself was never officially released.

Vicki

Oh my god so

but I might still have it will spend some time ploughing through over 100 hors of vieo tape to see if I do have it lurking somewhere.

RockingBat · 29 Nov 2005, 10:04

For those who've seen is... what exactly was the movie about? Was it a full fledged movie with a story and all or just one of those short ones regarding the song/album, but a bit more than a music video.

Pudding · 29 Nov 2005, 11:33

Somebody on IMDB.com has given a review of the film, which I will kindly cut and paste here.

Quote:

Dead Ringer is a combination of real concert footage mixed with a fantasy story line, revolving around the immense and immensely popular singer. Meat Loaf & Jim Steinman fans will certainly derive the biggest pleasure from this film.

Meat Loaf's first album, ''Bat Out of Hell,'' was a mega-success, selling more than 11 million copies. This large, talented, sweaty singer hit the scene like a tank out of hell and the fans loved him. Now, several years later and about to go on the road again to promote his new album, Meat Loaf starts to feel the stress of success. His production office looks like a war zone and none of his ''people'' are listening to him. His two agents are either on the phone or playing Space Invaders (remember that?) while pretending to be taking meetings. Meanwhile, his manager keeps booking Meat Loaf for interview after interview, slowly driving the singer insane. The highlight of the film, in fact, is MacIntyre Dixon, who plays Ernie Weaver, a slightly vacuous, enormously patient New York interviewer trying to discover the true ingredients of this Meat Loaf, and believing every false word his subject tells him.

Elsewhere, seemingly in some perpendicular universe, are Russell (Josh Mostel) and his nerdy brother, Marvin (Meat Loaf), who not surprisingly bears an uncanny resemblance to his idol, Meat Loaf. It seems that Marvin never talks, but he can belt out a Meat Loaf tune as well as the original. When they learn that the great one is going on tour, they make it their lives' mission to find and maybe, hope against hope, even meet Meat.

The rest of the film interweaves the separate stories as Russell and Marvin follow the band across the country, just missing them at every turn. It is all, to say the least, an uneven hodgepodge that is consistently hit and miss.

There are several funny bits in addition to Ernie the interviewer. There's a Napoleonic punk security guard who harasses anyone trying to get close to Meat Loaf. This one-man riot act would beat away Meat's shadow if he could.

The concert footage is erratic, in that sometimes we'll only see a few seconds of a number, such as with ''Paradise by the Dashboard Light,'' and it's more of a tease than anything else. But watching and hearing Meat Loaf perform is a treat throughout. He has a great voice and a hypnotic stage presence, making one wish we could have seen him in concert back then. He also looks as comfortable in front of the camera as he does on stage.

''Dead Ringer'' is lively, but simple-minded fun. You may moan one or two times, but on the whole it's worth it.

I especially like the last bit but on the whole it's worth it shame you can't actually buy it to test that theory out

Pud

**Ankie** · 29 Nov 2005, 12:36

Sounds like one I would like to see! And yes, it is a shame we are not able to test if these lines are also our opinion...

Did anyone hear a reason why it never was released? Even better: if there is a chance it ever will??

Jeanie · 30 Nov 2005, 01:10

Thanks Pud, I always wondered what the subject matter of the Dead Ringer" film was, and now I finally know. Just wish we all could have seen it...

If I'm not mistaken Ankie, I think Meat says in an interview from around that time, that because of the bankrupcy ect, he was going through, the government confiscated the film, and that's why it's never been released. < I could be wrong, that's what I remember though.

J.

Pudding · 30 Nov 2005, 01:49

It would seem that the cheeky beggar on IMDB who gave the review, copied it from a review given By JEFF MENELL, which is actually on Jimsteinman.com

Pud

Vickip · 30 Nov 2005, 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Thanks Pud, I always wondered what the subject matter of the Dead Ringer" film was, and now I finally know. Just wish we all could have seen it...

If I'm not mistaken Ankie, I think Meat says in an interview from around that time, that because of the bankrupcy ect, he was going through, the government confiscated the film, and that's why it's never been released. < I could be wrong, that's what I remember though.

J.

You're absolutely right Jeanie ... that's exactly what happened.
Vicki

**RadioMaster** · 03 Oct 2006, 16:37

just got the information from "to hell and back"

I thought it was never shown/released, but then I found reviews on IMDB.
Do you got any information about this movie? was it shown somewhere? Is it even available to buy?
As far as I know it´s not, but maybe you´ve got further information....

I think the best known scene from that movie is the part they took for the DRFL video clip....

I´d really be interested to see that movie...

*AndyK* · 03 Oct 2006, 16:40

Wouldn't we all RJ!

I think it was shown once at some film festival somewhere and then got snatched and hidden away ...

**RadioMaster** · 03 Oct 2006, 17:06

here is the review from IMDB I was mentioning.

**Diane** · 03 Oct 2006, 17:24

According to Meat's autobiography the movie was shown once at the Toronto Film Festival.

A very short trailer with Meat and Josh Mostel was shown on The Old Grey Whistle Test in the '80s and also during the excellent BBC documentary series The Music Biz in 1995.

Diane

Pudding · 03 Oct 2006, 22:16

Not wanting to burst any bubbles here, but I will, the ass who posted that review on IMDB.com copied it directly from http://www.jimsteinman.com/deadmovie.htm

Pud

batcity · 03 Oct 2006, 22:26

Yes the only program really to show clips of Deadringer movie was BBc Music Bizz's Which I have a copy of the program!!!

MeatGrl1 · 04 Oct 2006, 02:33

I want this movie!

LOL

03 Oct 2006, 16:37	#44
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Dead Ringer movie? just got the information from "to hell and back" I thought it was never shown/released, but then I found reviews on IMDB. Do you got any information about this movie? was it shown somewhere? Is it even available to buy? As far as I know it´s not, but maybe you´ve got further information.... I think the best known scene from that movie is the part they took for the DRFL video clip.... I´d really be interested to see that movie...

25 Nov 2005, 08:13	#26
PrissLoaf Super Loafer Join Date: 18.11.2005 Location: USA Posts: 285	thanks Pud. I should've known you would have the answer! :) I'm new to the forums (but not the music) and have read a lot of informative posts by you (over at Rockman too).

26 Nov 2005, 09:09	#28
PrissLoaf Super Loafer Join Date: 18.11.2005 Location: USA Posts: 285	ROFL! The best was about Steinman being a kitten

26 Nov 2005, 09:18	#29
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	You're talking about Susan! She appeared out on nowhere and started rambling on about Jim Steinman being a cat that's what promted the board being changed to a registered one if you want to post. By all accounts this Susan's ISP traced back to California, who'd have though she came from the land of fruits and nuts Pud

26 Nov 2005, 09:42	#30
PrissLoaf Super Loafer Join Date: 18.11.2005 Location: USA Posts: 285	yep, that's the one. ~~~ meeeowww ~~~ thanks for the info on Rockman. I'd probably be in over my head over there. I think Jim is a phenomenal writer, but I don't know as much background info as a lot of the others

26 Nov 2005, 19:25	#31
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	I have a copy of the video on a TV programme (cann't remember which) video tape, just need to find which one of the 100 hours I have! I hope to be in receipt of a DVD/video recorder for Xmas so if you can hold on that long - I'll willing search it out for you and place on DVD....

26 Nov 2005, 22:20	#32
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	So you actually have the Dead Ringer movie? not concert but the actual movie - holy crapsticks If you can convert it to DVD, I don't mind running off some copies and shipping them out. However, if you've been naught this year and Santa doesn't give you a DVD/Video recorder, I know some people who could convert it for you and I'd still run off some copies and ship them out. Pud

27 Nov 2005, 13:01	#33
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	yep thats correct Pud, taped it off the tv years ago (top of the pops If I recall) this is the one isn't it.... just need to locate it amongst the tapes I have and hey presto father christmas is going to buy me the means to do it Just hang on in there folks......

27 Nov 2005, 15:25	#34
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	I would love to get ahold of a copy, lemme know if this happens.

27 Nov 2005, 21:07	#35
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	Well I've found it - and just want to confirm it is the Dead Ringer Video with Cher we're all talking about isn't it? Lucky for me it was on the VH1 Meat Loaf Day....... Can some one confirm regarding above please..........

27 Nov 2005, 21:49	#36
Vickip Mega Loafer Join Date: 07.02.2003 Location: Posts: 8,101	I think they're talking about the movie called "Dead Ringer" that Meat filmed in 1981, not the music video he filmed with Cher. The movie itself was never officially released. Vicki

29 Nov 2005, 10:04	#38
RockingBat Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.10.2004 Location: Kenya Posts: 125	For those who've seen is... what exactly was the movie about? Was it a full fledged movie with a story and all or just one of those short ones regarding the song/album, but a bit more than a music video.

29 Nov 2005, 12:36	#40
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,884	Sounds like one I would like to see! And yes, it is a shame we are not able to test if these lines are also our opinion... Did anyone hear a reason why it never was released? Even better: if there is a chance it ever will??

30 Nov 2005, 01:10	#41
Jeanie Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 996	Thanks Pud, I always wondered what the subject matter of the Dead Ringer" film was, and now I finally know. Just wish we all could have seen it... If I'm not mistaken Ankie, I think Meat says in an interview from around that time, that because of the bankrupcy ect, he was going through, the government confiscated the film, and that's why it's never been released. < I could be wrong, that's what I remember though. J.

30 Nov 2005, 01:49	#42
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	It would seem that the cheeky beggar on IMDB who gave the review, copied it from a review given By JEFF MENELL, which is actually on Jimsteinman.com Pud

03 Oct 2006, 16:40	#45
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Wouldn't we all RJ! I think it was shown once at some film festival somewhere and then got snatched and hidden away ...

03 Oct 2006, 17:06	#46
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	here is the review from IMDB I was mentioning.

03 Oct 2006, 17:24	#47
Diane Super Moderator Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 3,462	According to Meat's autobiography the movie was shown once at the Toronto Film Festival. A very short trailer with Meat and Josh Mostel was shown on The Old Grey Whistle Test in the '80s and also during the excellent BBC documentary series The Music Biz in 1995. Diane

03 Oct 2006, 22:16	#48
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Not wanting to burst any bubbles here, but I will, the ass who posted that review on IMDB.com copied it directly from http://www.jimsteinman.com/deadmovie.htm Pud

03 Oct 2006, 22:26	#49
batcity Guest Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 751	Yes the only program really to show clips of Deadringer movie was BBc Music Bizz's Which I have a copy of the program!!!

04 Oct 2006, 02:33	#50
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I want this movie! LOL