STOP ROWING PLEASE!!!!!! - Page 2

Michel · 03 Mar 2004, 10:59

I've did a few warnings, i've tried to discuss on a normal way, I locked some topics, so I did my work. And every mod did their work, but sometimes the normal rules don't work, that's the reason why R. mad some extra rules.

So the mods and admin. did their work, otherwise their would be more problems.

Sue K · 03 Mar 2004, 11:42

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Originally Posted by heat

Mousie - no disrespect intended here, hun...

But IMHO the problem is the fact that if the Mods had done thier jobs in the first place then we wouldn't have all this crap going on now.

Seems like a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted now...

IMO the moderating is most lacking when it comes to those who come on posting with destructive criticism of Meat. Weissheim's initial posting particularly comes to mind and IMO, seems to be the one that angered Meat the most. IMO, the mods should have recognized this post for what it was and come on IMMEDIATELY saying that such a post would not be tolerated, explaining constructive criticism was acceptable but to come onboard with such harsh remarks was not.

Take care.

Di · 03 Mar 2004, 14:22

I went back and found Weissheim's original post and just reread it.

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=#82301

In reading this I found nothing abrasive, abusive, or he flaming anyone at all. This was a calm and strong review from a fan who was disappointed in a concert and an artist's performance.

By the way, my own concert experience in Universal City was very close to this.... Although there is no way I would not go back to another concert as I would love to see Meat again live, and I understand an off night.

Di
.... who truly does not believe the moderators failed in any way in this topic.....

Winston · 03 Mar 2004, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Di

Di
.... who truly does not believe the moderators failed in any way in this topic.....

yep

original sin · 03 Mar 2004, 19:35

Trying going back to dbruces first post on page 4 of this topic and read from there then let me know -
http://<br /> http://www.mlukfc.com...r=asc&start=75

Winston · 03 Mar 2004, 19:39

Di was talking about Weissheim's post....or are you just tryin again to justify Meat's outbursts.

original sin · 03 Mar 2004, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Winston

Di was talking about Weissheim's post....or are you just tryin again to justify Meat's outbursts.

I am well aware of what di was refering to - however the general topic is about what has happened and what some feel should not have been "classed" as acceptable.

What Meat did or didn't do subsequently is a matter of fact - the whole point Winston is should it have actually got to this stage?
I for one amongst quiet a few it would seem do not think that such postings should be sencouraged or supported under the banner of free speach - there are ways and means of putting things across without trying to wipe away in one foul swoop what has been given to us for so long.

Di · 03 Mar 2004, 20:49

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Originally Posted by original sin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston

Di was talking about Weissheim's post....or are you just tryin again to justify Meat's outbursts.

I am well aware of what di was refering to - however the general topic is about what has happened and what some feel should not have been "classed" as acceptable.

What Meat did or didn't do subsequently is a matter of fact - the whole point Winston is should it have actually got to this stage?
I for one amongst quiet a few it would seem do not think that such postings should be sencouraged or supported under the banner of free speach - there are ways and means of putting things across without trying to wipe away in one foul swoop what has been given to us for so long.

Original Sin,

It got to this point because not everyone has reached closure with the issue. I think it is going to be very difficult to expect everyone to agree on this to a person, and writings will always be subject to personal interpretation by the reader.

For myself, I found the posts in the Glasgow thread by fans unhappy with their concert experiences to be written in non-abusive, non-inflammatory, and acceptable posts. It was their honest opinions, and they did not use foul language or abuse anyone that I read as I glanced over your link just now.

We cannot always control others...... sometimes what we most have control over is our own reactions to them. That has been the point I have been attempting to make here several times, and I still do believe that this holds true for Meat as well. Live and let live can work well when the parties involved follow polite and respectful guidelines, and I enjoy reading other people's varied opinions if they are rendered in a positive fashion.

I do understand your points and I respect opinions you hold, I just do not necessarily agree with all of them.

Di

ROSIE · 03 Mar 2004, 20:56

I have not been around for a while so I havn't much of a clue what has gone on (again) but I feel very sad that members are arguing again.

This was once just a friendly place, but now, I just don't know it's probably best if I just stay on the sidelines.

Rosie

CarolM · 03 Mar 2004, 21:29

is this rowing still going on.

madonna123968848 · 03 Mar 2004, 22:21

Tired of the rowing ... some people are just shot away!!! Just hope Meats's website (when it is up and running) is a happier place to hang out!!!

<<< Vote's, forget differences as life is too short and at the end of the day we are all here to support MEAT!

NeilNI · 03 Mar 2004, 23:00

I reckon that everyone stops arguing and we all go out and get very hammered on champagne squishys!!

Whos with me?

dottie · 03 Mar 2004, 23:12

a

says yes :) please that would be so

:P

shadow1000001 · 03 Mar 2004, 23:56

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Originally Posted by NeilNI

I reckon that everyone stops arguing and we all go out and get very hammered on champagne squishys!!

Whos with me?

I am.

and yes Rosie, I will be on the sidelines with you

Maria

KebLou · 12 Mar 2004, 11:16

I think we should all calm down. As Meat Loaf fans we have things in common (erm let me think Meat Loaf) so what is the point of coming here and annoying one another (fighting, arguing what ever you want to call it) when we are upsetting the one reason why we come here (speaking for myself I can't comment on others).
Maybe Meat Loaf did overreact but you all have to remember that he has given a substancial (sp?) chunk of his life to music (even I'm like it with my music I can criticize but others have to be constructive) and to read people not even thinking about your feelings can be pretty destructive. Meat is reacting the only way he knows how so lets forget about it as this is his last tour.

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03 Mar 2004, 10:59	#26
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	I've did a few warnings, i've tried to discuss on a normal way, I locked some topics, so I did my work. And every mod did their work, but sometimes the normal rules don't work, that's the reason why R. mad some extra rules. So the mods and admin. did their work, otherwise their would be more problems.

03 Mar 2004, 14:22	#28
Di Super Loafer Join Date: 15.04.2003 Posts: 317	I went back and found Weissheim's original post and just reread it. http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=#82301 In reading this I found nothing abrasive, abusive, or he flaming anyone at all. This was a calm and strong review from a fan who was disappointed in a concert and an artist's performance. By the way, my own concert experience in Universal City was very close to this.... Although there is no way I would not go back to another concert as I would love to see Meat again live, and I understand an off night. Di .... who truly does not believe the moderators failed in any way in this topic.....

03 Mar 2004, 19:35	#30
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Trying going back to dbruces first post on page 4 of this topic and read from there then let me know - http://<br /> http://www.mlukfc.com...r=asc&start=75

03 Mar 2004, 19:39	#31
Winston Super Loafer Join Date: 02.04.2003 Location: Lion's Den Posts: 745	Di was talking about Weissheim's post....or are you just tryin again to justify Meat's outbursts.

03 Mar 2004, 20:56	#34
ROSIE Invisible again! Join Date: 30.06.2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,240	I have not been around for a while so I havn't much of a clue what has gone on (again) but I feel very sad that members are arguing again. This was once just a friendly place, but now, I just don't know it's probably best if I just stay on the sidelines. Rosie

03 Mar 2004, 21:29	#35
CarolM Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2003 Location: Near The End Of The Line Posts: 1,498	is this rowing still going on.

03 Mar 2004, 22:21	#36
madonna123968848 Super Loafer Join Date: 07.07.2003 Location: Ashford, Kent. UK. Posts: 294	Tired of the rowing ... some people are just shot away!!! Just hope Meats's website (when it is up and running) is a happier place to hang out!!! <<< Vote's, forget differences as life is too short and at the end of the day we are all here to support MEAT!

03 Mar 2004, 23:00	#37
NeilNI Rookie Join Date: 16.12.2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5	I reckon that everyone stops arguing and we all go out and get very hammered on champagne squishys!! Whos with me?

03 Mar 2004, 23:12	#38
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	a says yes :) please that would be so :P

12 Mar 2004, 11:16	#40
KebLou Mega Loafer Join Date: 02.03.2004 Location: The Arena of the Unwell Posts: 3,177	I think we should all calm down. As Meat Loaf fans we have things in common (erm let me think Meat Loaf) so what is the point of coming here and annoying one another (fighting, arguing what ever you want to call it) when we are upsetting the one reason why we come here (speaking for myself I can't comment on others). Maybe Meat Loaf did overreact but you all have to remember that he has given a substancial (sp?) chunk of his life to music (even I'm like it with my music I can criticize but others have to be constructive) and to read people not even thinking about your feelings can be pretty destructive. Meat is reacting the only way he knows how so lets forget about it as this is his last tour.