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[Fire Ball]

Igot tell you are all wrong , calm down didn;t know therre waas a makeup date, the told you there wrong!Q allways taking a break after australia. If it makes sense we will play more dates, we might be recording Bat3 , one more thing I read Cyndi had meet and greets for 200 and 300 people not at my show she had done, we 300 people bacstage at LA 225 were mine other than that no meet and greets, That's crazy. If you think I want promote bat 3 like a bat out of hell then your are insaine What brought this angry on me, what have I dione to you!! I'm just a working man trying to make some people happy. But I see it is impossible. all that happen record co wanted it in Sept I wanted march so I could sent it up. the single was top 5 in a lot of cities and there were big stations we did for Bat 3. Alot goes on that doesn't make sense to you but it really does
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Meat

[Fire Ball]

if you thing i don't want to promote bat 3 in the us with everythinhg i got then your crazy




CORRECTION

[rockfenris2005]

Fireball might be playing JOKER in Jim Steinman's BATMAN-THE MUSICAL, which will be good. Apparently, though it's just rumored, Meat Loaf and Robert Evans have already made demos for the new musical. What has Fireball got to say about all this? And will there be BATMAN songs on BAT 3?

[Keep Rocking]

Hey Fire Ball!
Most of us never doubt that you will promote BATIII 120%(or even more )!
So please don't be angry with us. I can understand, that you are getting angry when you were giving everything from you and than you have to read something negative about it-but these negative are the minority.
We-the true fans- will never ever have any doubts!

Rock on Fire Ball!!!

P.S.: hope I was able to express it right, but my english is not 100%

[Sabine]

You took the words.. Keep Rockin.

Yes Meat don´t be angry, we love you.

Sabine

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

one more thing I read Cyndi had meet and greets for 200 and 300 people not at my show she had done, we 300 people bacstage at LA 225 were mine other than that no meet and greets, That's crazy.

Thanks for clearing that up Meat .I'm glad it wasn't true.It really made me angry when I heard it.(Sorry Cyndi )

If you think I wont promote bat 3 like a bat out of hell then your are insaine

Meat, I know your gonna work your ass off promoting Bat III, but the closing chapter of the Bat trilogy is gonna be the biggest event of rock history .Even if you didn't promote it, it will still be a smash.
Put it this way, the day Bat III is released, i'm gonna buy a new hat.If neither the album or singles get to No.1 I'LL EAT IT

What brought this angry on me, what have I dione to you!! I'm just a working man trying to make some people happy. But I see it is impossible.

It really makes me unhappy to see you thinking like that .You have many many faithful fans.We know how hard you work and appreciate it.You've never let us down and you DO make us very happy.If you didn't, we wouldn't bother visiting this site every day .We all love you man.Never think anything different .

[CarylB]

Keep Rocking wrote:

I can understand, that you are getting angry when you were giving everything from you and than you have to read something negative about it-but these negative are the minority.
We-the true fans- will never ever have any doubts!

That's so true, though I understand how despondent and discouraged Meat must get. Even when most people are encouraging, positive and pleasant it's easy to have your spirits dragged down by a few with negative thoughts and accusing tongues.

But I do hope Meat can complete the later repeat legs of this tour despite recording Bat3, even if dates are delayed .. the reviews of his current shows demonstrate that he is in as good form as he has ever been, and it would be so good for his many loyal fans who adore him to see this celebration of an enduring world class talent, and the "Last World Tour" would be the huge triumph it should be :)

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

What brought this angry on me, what have I dione to you!! I'm just a working man trying to make some people happy. But I see it is impossible.

Meat,

You have it wrong here. You do make us very happy. I am just very irate that I have been told there would be a make up date, when that was never the plan all along. I am a hard working man too and need to watch my finances. I have been sitting on four tickets that I paid hard earned cash for - waiting for the chance to see you rock once again. You make us very happy. What does not make me happy is being jerked around, being told by the venue and Ticketmaster that they have an agreement with you to make up a show that you have no intention to make up. I could have done a lot with that just over $200.00, especially with Christmas coming. Ticketmaster can take my money in just under 30 seconds, yet it will take them two to three weeks to return it? Certainly you can see where my frustration lies.

America really wants to see Meat Loaf return here. There is no show like a Meat Loaf show.

Saying that you cannot make us happy is wrong Meat. You make us very happy. It is just difficult a lot of the time. It would be much easier if there was more communication. Please understand this.

BTW, you need to have someone contact PromoWest and let them know you are not coming so they can inform the people still holding onto tickets for your make up date.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Keep Rocking

So please don't be angry with us. I can understand, that you are getting angry when you were giving everything from you and than you have to read something negative about it-but these negative are the minority.
We-the true fans- will never ever have any doubts!

Rock on Fire Ball!!!

P.S.: hope I was able to express it right, but my english is not 100%

You expressed it perfectly Keep Rocking :)
Vicki

[Eva]

Originally Posted by Keep Rocking

Hey Fire Ball!
Most of us never doubt that you will promote BATIII 120%(or even more )!
So please don't be angry with us. I can understand, that you are getting angry when you were giving everything from you and than you have to read something negative about it-but these negative are the minority.
We-the true fans- will never ever have any doubts!

Rock on Fire Ball!!!

You are right, Yvonne!

Love
Eva

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

I'm just a working man trying to make some people happy. But I see it is impossible. all that happen record co wanted it in Sept I wanted march so I could sent it up. the single was top 5 in a lot of cities and there were big stations we did for Bat 3. Alot goes on that doesn't make sense to you but it really does

Meat

Hi Meat !

Thank you !!!

I guess they're right when they say that you can't please all of the people all of the time

Yes, obviously there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about :) But what some people don't realize is that, from an Economics point of view, the US is just one small piece of the puzzle .....
if they were to do a competitive market analysis of the record industry, looking at the supply and demand of the product (CHSIB) as a whole, and taking other underlying factors into consideration (i.e. timing), this strategy actually makes a lot of sense.

What doesn't make sense to me is what the heck were you doing on the internet posting this message at 6:00 in the morning

Seriously though, please remember that you make your TRUE fans very happy, and we will always be there to support you, no matter what And there are those of us who are willing to sit here patiently waiting for Bat III and to see if you can hopefully schedule more shows after you come back from Australia.

Vicki

[R.]

In that case, David, I'd would have preferred a simple clear statement instead that kind of that ... ummm ... "rant".

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by R.

In that case, David, I'd would have preferred a simple clear statement instead that kind of that ... ummm ... "rant".

I agree R ..... which is why I alerted Meat to what was being said in this thread.

Vicki

[Dave]

Originally Posted by R.

In that case, David, I'd would have preferred a simple clear statement instead that kind of that ... ummm ... "rant".

R., I would kindly beg that one man's rant is another man's frustration speaking.

It is sad I had to go into a rant to be rewarded with the truth about the Columbus make up date. But, I certainly hope that you can understand why I felt so frustrated about this.

Originally Posted by Vickip (acting as a board cop) said

I agree R ..... which is why I alerted Meat to what was being said in this thread.

So I have no right to complain if I feel someone is holding my money without giving me anything in return. I took a lot of grief over the stupid racing shirts, but no one complained about people complaining over that one now did they? I just thought it odd that part of the band was off planning other shows during a time period I have a PAID ticket for a SOLD OUT show! Get over it Vicki ~ you are acting like a board cop!

ROCK ON TANTRUM BOY!!!

P.S. I put two posts together so that Caryl would not have to correct me on that issue as well!!!

[Vickip]

Well David, if people continue to abuse Meat on this board, I'll exercise my right to bring his attention to it :

Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

There is a great percentage of the American fanbase that feels as if Meat Loaf has given us up. I know this because I chat wtih a great deal of people on a regular basis.

(1). I took exception to your suggesting that you are speaking for a great percentage of American fanbase when I seriously doubt that's true.

Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

Meat Loaf really hurt us with his comments during his petty rant on this board about not playing America at this time, when we know full good and well make up dates are promised.

(2). I took exception to you dragging up what you call Meat's petty rant on the board.

Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

Further, he threw salt into our wounds when all of the UK dates were promptly made up, yet he cannot find time in his busy schedual to make up NOT ONE single date in America that he missed

(3). I took exception to your saying that he threw salt into our wounds by making up the UK dates.

Quite frankly this sounds like Meat was being intenionally hurtful and cruel ... when clearly it made sense for him to make them up now before he continued onto Australia.

Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

And about him not seeing the need to make up dates because they are only half sold. Let it be known that ChoccyBat is even saying that Meat is in it for the money. If Meat cared about that part of his fan base, he would do the good and the right thing by making up the dates, juat as he did over there - regardless of the ticket sales. The point is, on the outside, Meat Loaf is giving the appearance of giving america the big P I S S O F F !!!!

(4). Not only were you acting as a spokesperson for the US fans, as well as putting words in ChoccyBat's mouth ... I took exception with you insinuating that Meat does not care about his US fans and is giving America the big P I S S O F F, which is clearly NOT true.

The bottom line is the facts you quoted were incorrect, and I simply gave Meat the opportunity to point that out and correct them. And if I'm acting as a board cop ..... well somebody has to do it, and it might as well be me

Who is TANTRUM BOY this time David If I remember, you used that to describe Meat not too long ago .....

and how did Caryl's name get dragged into this I don't remember seeing her post anything when you started this thread ....

Vicki

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Vickip

Well David, if people continue to abuse Meat on this board, I'll exercise my right to bring his attention to it :

I never abused Meat Loaf in any way. I was simply stating my case.

* P O O F *

Be gone!

This is the most joyous and blessed time of the year, and I do not have time to deal with bitter women who have nothing better to do than tattle.

Thank you for tattling to Meat so that I can finally get my answer. I love you for that, among other things.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

* P O O F *

Be gone!

This is the most joyous and blessed time of the year, and I do not have time to deal with bitter women who have nothing better to do than tattle.

Thank you for tattling to Meat so that I can finally get my answer. I love you for that, among other things.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

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[Kathy]

Boy, I never know what I'm going to find when I come on here! Sometimes you guys are a volatile bunch :) I'd just like to go on record as 1) an Ohioan who loves Meat, 2) an Ohioan who doesn't feel pissed off, or pissed upon, or anything, and 3) an Ohioan who was looking forward to seeing Meat in Columbus in the Spring (I have tickets too, actually 2 sets because the first seats I got were crummy) but if it doesn't happen that's life. I'll be sad but that's life. Last September when the Cleveland radio promotion took priority, I understood that was a business decision, and sometimes the record companies kind of call the shots, don't they? So I don't think Columbus fans needed to take that personally; I didn't anyway.
Love you no matter what, Meat.
-Kathy

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Kathy

Boy, I never know what I'm going to find when I come on here! Sometimes you guys are a volatile bunch :) I'd just like to go on record as 1) an Ohioan who loves Meat, 2) an Ohioan who doesn't feel pissed off, or pissed upon, or anything, and 3) an Ohioan who was looking forward to seeing Meat in Columbus in the Spring (I have tickets too, actually 2 sets because the first seats I got were crummy) but if it doesn't happen that's life. I'll be sad but that's life. Last September when the Cleveland radio promotion took priority, I understood that was a business decision, and sometimes the record companies kind of call the shots, don't they? So I don't think Columbus fans needed to take that personally; I didn't anyway.
Love you no matter what, Meat.
-Kathy

Thank you Kathy
Vicki

[shadow1000001]

It's a good thing that we all have tolerance and respect here otherwise I can see this thread heading for fight club Seems to me that calling Vicki bitter isn't tolerant or respectful.

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by shadow1000001

It's a good thing that we all have tolerance and respect here otherwise I can see this thread heading for fight club Seems to me that calling Vicki bitter isn't tolerant or respectful.

Thank you very much Maria
Vicki

[The Flying Mouse]

Point of order...

Originally Posted by Vickip

And if I'm acting as a board cop ..... well somebody has to do it, and it might as well be me

I believe that's R's job.And I happen to think he does it damn well

[Dave]

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

Point of order...
I believe that's R's job.And I happen to think he does it damn well

Couldn't Have Said It Better

ROCK ON WHO'S MOD!!!

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

Point of order...

I believe that's R's job.And I happen to think he does it damn well

Just so there's no misunderstanding here, David was the one who said I was acting like a board cop. That was not my intention .... I felt that David's comments against Meat, and his treatment of his U.S. fans, were both disrespectful and uncalled for ... and I thought someone should bring it to Meat's attention.

Vicki

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Vickip

Just so there's no misunderstanding here, David was the one who said I was acting like a board cop. That was not my intention

I know that it was David who coined the phrase, but as a member of the mlukfc team (even a minor one), forgive me if I take the comment "well somebody has to do it" rather personally.

I felt that David's comments against Meat, and his treatment of his U.S. fans, were both disrespectful and uncalled for ... and I thought someone should bring it to Meat's attention.

I agree, in the sence that I cannot agree with everything David said, or how it was said, but it WAS said on a public forum.Nothing was said behind Meat's back.Meat reads these forums for himself, and it is reasonable to assume that he would read this too.There was speculation on this thread, that's why R. removed it's announcment status.Meat stopped by to end the speculation, for which i'm sure we're all very grateful as usual, but IMHO Meat does not need to be told where and when he needs to speak out.