Should Meat Loaf play at Donald Trump's Inauguration Ceremony? - Page 2

nikox1 · 30 Dec 2016, 00:23

The voice thing has been i guess an ongoing talking point for years now.
Hes almost 70 people, of course its changed. Lost power? No, range and delivery? Maybe. But i honestly think its that the songs are so difficult to sing, and they require so much. Meat is still a good singer, is he still great? I dont know. But without question one of the greatest live performers in history

nightinr · 30 Dec 2016, 00:23

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Originally Posted by CarylB

You said "his voice has been in decline for 15 years." I disagreed. I don't need to listen on YT; I attended many of Meat's performances in the 80s and 90s .. and almost all tours since then. Storytellers, Night of the Proms, Having Fun, CHSIB (if you missed the first show after his WPWS surgery, you missed an amazing vocal performance), even Hair of the Dog tours were great. His voice began to show weakness as the vocal cyst developed (although he was still magnificent at the RAH) .. and when it healed he came back strongly in Casa de Carne and Hang Cool. Has his voice altered? Yes, of course; it would be unreasonable to expect it to remain constantly the same over 40 years. But to suggest it has been "in decline for 15 years" is not something I agree with .. and Last at Bat 3 years ago was superb, and showed just how much power and strength he still had.

Don't get me wrong Caryl I go to every Meat tour and love his performances and of course would go to another show if there was to be one. I just think we have to be realistic to say his vocals aren't what they once were.

nightinr · 30 Dec 2016, 00:24

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Originally Posted by nikox1

The voice thing has been i guess an ongoing talking point for years now.
Hes almost 70 people, of course its changed. Lost power? No, range and delivery? Maybe. But i honestly think its that the songs are so difficult to sing, and they require so much. Meat is still a good singer, is he still great? I dont know. But without question one of the greatest live performers in history

Yep I agree with all of this.

loaferman61 · 30 Dec 2016, 00:40

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

He isn't, exactly for the reasons which Loaferman pointed to.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/new...uch-heat-fans/

Although I don't think any celeb needs to perform at this event like I said, a bunch of whining snowflaky assholes starting a hashtag #boycottbocelli against an amazing singer who has battled blindness and done tons of charitable work throughout his life is very sad and completely pathetic.

Yes even the "cool" kids are capable of bullying, in fact I would argue they do it more than the uncool kids.

Maybe the uncool kids are really the cool ones....

Did anyone who appeared for Mr. Obama receive a "backlash"? Yet if any even think about appearing for Mr. Trump the haters come out of the woodwork seeking blood.
As said already, with Meat it isn't going to happen so kind of a moot issue.

anotherday · 30 Dec 2016, 00:46

No. Not just no but hell no.

CarylB · 30 Dec 2016, 01:00

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

Did anyone who appeared for Mr. Obama receive a "backlash"? Yet if any even think about appearing for Mr. Trump the haters come out of the woodwork seeking blood.
As said already, with Meat it isn't going to happen so kind of a moot issue.

Performers have appeared at inauguration events for a long time, without backlash. Meat has appeared for both Republican and Democrat inaugurations in the past with none; it's always been viewed as a professional paid engagement which does not signify any particular level of personal support. This time it's different though .. the country (even the world) far more divided .. but as you say .. a moot issue. I would have thought by now he'd have long been asked (he was on CA, so could hardly be described as off Trump's radar) and in that case declined .. any acceptance from anyone vaguely well known would surely be loudly heralded by the Trump team.

stretch37 · 30 Dec 2016, 01:26

Why is this even a conversation?

I have a pot of soup on that I'm going to go stir soon and eat. No Joke. But I find this thread relate-able.

rockfenris2005 · 30 Dec 2016, 04:46

No, I don't think it's a good idea, also because it'll just be like last time with that other guy, and I remember that. Gawd no. History has repeated itself enough already for me too.

Wario · 30 Dec 2016, 07:32

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Originally Posted by CarylB

And how did many of you treat him when he appeared at Romney's rally?

That wasnt regally huge ratings like AFL was or this would be

nightinr · 30 Dec 2016, 12:32

Although not a Trump fan myself I do recognise that he was democratically elected.

It is easy to look in from the outside thousands of miles away, however everybody's economic and social situation is different.

I would never patronise the American public and make out they are crazy for electing Trump. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

With this in mind the "silent majority" that elected Trump would probably love to see a southern boy from Texas like Meat perform!

Wario · 01 Jan 2017, 11:00

Anything Meat would do would be better than what we witnessed with Miriah

YOU SING EVEN IF THERES PRE RECORDED VOCALS. take a page from Meat

glockenspiel · 01 Jan 2017, 15:16

Still of the opinion that the 'Guilty Pleasures' DVD should have marked the official end of his live work -- so it's a 'No' from me ....

Evil One · 01 Jan 2017, 15:21

With the benefit of hindsight there should have been a DVD of the Last At Bat tour. Meat was much better than on Guilty Pleasure.

stretch37 · 01 Jan 2017, 20:54

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Originally Posted by glockenspiel

Still of the opinion that the 'Guilty Pleasures' DVD should have marked the official end of his live work -- so it's a 'No' from me ....

The problem with that DVD is that it did not reflect his touring since 2010. The Hang Cool Tour sounded great, Meat was amazing. Then the AFL happened, and IMO ~~~~ed with his head. Plus his vocal chord issue, which may or may not have been caused by that extreme stress.

HOnestly, I want a DVD of the Hang Cool Tour. Meat sounded phenomenal. His high end was still very much intact. I'm not sure i'd want a DVD of Last At Bat. I've listened to every bootleg, and Meat sounded really great on his low register, and emotionally was all there, but by that time, his highest notes were being supported by small bits of backing track (Eg. The end of bat), and there was a noticeable weakening that had started around the AFL issue. I've said it before, but I don't think Meat's performances have been the same since then...Not that they're "Bad", just that he might have really hurt his voice forcing himself through those shows with his bleeding vocal chord and all that stress.

The hang cool tour shows I saw in January of 2011, unfortunately I got no video because they were so good. Meat acted like he was 40 years old again, stalked the stage, ran, sang his ~~~~ing ass off. I want to re-live that. That was Meat Loaf in a late stage renaissance.

AndrewG · 10 Jan 2017, 18:51

As if Charlotte Church would have been asked to sing at the inauguration.

I don't think so!

I could imagine Katherine Jenkins would be asked but anyone of any lesser celeb status seems totally unlikely. You can find better singers than Charlotte Church who don't carry a constant political agenda.

Several of these celeb / political singers seem to be digging themselves a career ending grave trying to use the Trump thing ("No I will not perform for a 'tyrant'") as a platform to stay relevant.

Such nonsense.

loaferman61 · 10 Jan 2017, 22:52

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

As if Charlotte Church would have been asked to sing at the inauguration.

I don't think so!

I could imagine Katherine Jenkins would be asked but anyone of any lesser celeb status seems totally unlikely. You can find better singers than Charlotte Church who don't carry a constant political agenda.

Several of these celeb / political singers seem to be digging themselves a career ending grave trying to use the Trump thing ("No I will not perform for a 'tyrant'") as a platform to stay relevant.

Such nonsense.

Agreed. These "celebrities" want to tell us how to live our lives while they make speeches obviously looking down their noses at us poor slobs who would only have MMA fights to watch if it wasn't for them while they rake in huge money. It is an insult to their audiences and it is going to hurt them, but lucky for them they already got theirs.

Meat needs to just concentrate on feeling well again. If he wants to act again he would need to stay away anyhow because the reprisals from the production people would be a thing because people like them are that petty. They talk accepting everyone but obviously it is gross hypocrisy.

Anyone know the demographics of Meryl Streep's neighborhood not counting the help?

Jayd · 10 Jan 2017, 23:05

No, Trump is a moron IMO, and he doesn't need to be associated with his circus

mindnick1 · 11 Jan 2017, 00:12

Good grief NO!!!

melon · 11 Jan 2017, 02:21

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Originally Posted by Wario

No way wed treat him like Australia did.

Yeah..... right..... somehow I doubt that.

anotherday · 11 Jan 2017, 02:37

TRUMP GOT.....

R. KELLY.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOLOLOLOLOL

Julie in the rv mirror · 11 Jan 2017, 03:12

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Originally Posted by anotherday

TRUMP GOT.....

R. KELLY.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOLOLOLOLOL

Birds of a feather, I guess.

anotherday · 11 Jan 2017, 05:50

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

Birds of a feather, I guess.

*mutters something about golden showers and runs out of the chat room*

loaferman61 · 11 Jan 2017, 15:52

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Originally Posted by anotherday

*mutters something about golden showers and runs out of the chat room*

In the interest of accuracy, that claim originated on 4 Chan as a troll. The "legitimate" news media got had.
http://imgur.com/euJS87B

AndrewG · 11 Jan 2017, 16:30

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

In the interest of accuracy, that claim originated on 4 Chan as a troll. The "legitimate" news media got had.
http://imgur.com/euJS87B

The loony liberal media happily spreads this tosh but never thoroughly questioned Hillary on the fact she surrounded herself by total creeps and dangerously incompetent people such as Anthony Weiner, Huma Abedin, John Podesta (who used Gmail for all his work emails and couldn't even use a good password on there or his Twitter account) and then there's her husband Bill Clinton.

They all tagged along till the Hillary ship rightfully sank.

loaferman61 · 11 Jan 2017, 16:55

This was an epic troll such as legends are made of. Amazing how many supposedly "credible" people totally fell for it. Believing the mainstream media doesn't report "fake news" is amazing. I'm still glad Meat stayed away for his health (doubt he was asked formally).

30 Dec 2016, 00:23	#26
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	The voice thing has been i guess an ongoing talking point for years now. Hes almost 70 people, of course its changed. Lost power? No, range and delivery? Maybe. But i honestly think its that the songs are so difficult to sing, and they require so much. Meat is still a good singer, is he still great? I dont know. But without question one of the greatest live performers in history

30 Dec 2016, 00:46	#30
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 802	No. Not just no but hell no.

30 Dec 2016, 01:26	#32
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,120	Why is this even a conversation? I have a pot of soup on that I'm going to go stir soon and eat. No Joke. But I find this thread relate-able.

30 Dec 2016, 04:46	#33
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	No, I don't think it's a good idea, also because it'll just be like last time with that other guy, and I remember that. Gawd no. History has repeated itself enough already for me too.

30 Dec 2016, 12:32	#35
nightinr Super Loafer Join Date: 04.09.2011 Posts: 360	Although not a Trump fan myself I do recognise that he was democratically elected. It is easy to look in from the outside thousands of miles away, however everybody's economic and social situation is different. I would never patronise the American public and make out they are crazy for electing Trump. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. With this in mind the "silent majority" that elected Trump would probably love to see a southern boy from Texas like Meat perform!

01 Jan 2017, 11:00	#36
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Anything Meat would do would be better than what we witnessed with Miriah YOU SING EVEN IF THERES PRE RECORDED VOCALS. take a page from Meat

01 Jan 2017, 15:16	#37
glockenspiel Senior Loafer Join Date: 28.08.2009 Posts: 171	Still of the opinion that the 'Guilty Pleasures' DVD should have marked the official end of his live work -- so it's a 'No' from me ....

01 Jan 2017, 15:21	#38
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	With the benefit of hindsight there should have been a DVD of the Last At Bat tour. Meat was much better than on Guilty Pleasure.

10 Jan 2017, 18:51	#40
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	As if Charlotte Church would have been asked to sing at the inauguration. I don't think so! I could imagine Katherine Jenkins would be asked but anyone of any lesser celeb status seems totally unlikely. You can find better singers than Charlotte Church who don't carry a constant political agenda. Several of these celeb / political singers seem to be digging themselves a career ending grave trying to use the Trump thing ("No I will not perform for a 'tyrant'") as a platform to stay relevant. Such nonsense.

10 Jan 2017, 23:05	#42
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	No, Trump is a moron IMO, and he doesn't need to be associated with his circus

11 Jan 2017, 00:12	#43
mindnick1 Sound Guy Join Date: 25.11.2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Good grief NO!!!

11 Jan 2017, 02:37	#45
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 802	TRUMP GOT..... R. KELLY. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOLOLOLOLOL

11 Jan 2017, 16:55	#50
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	This was an epic troll such as legends are made of. Amazing how many supposedly "credible" people totally fell for it. Believing the mainstream media doesn't report "fake news" is amazing. I'm still glad Meat stayed away for his health (doubt he was asked formally).