HOF discussion - Pianists

[Mr. Happy]

I personally don't see how Roy Bittan qualifies as a member of the NLE at all, outside of the fact he was a session musician at times. So what AndyK said

I've always loved Bittan's musicianship, his playing was what inspired me to become a musician in the first place (with the help of Jim's songs [at the time]!). He's an absolutely phenomenal player, to say the least. He has a very grand, powerful style of playing I don't think I've ever heard anyone else capture. Piano thunder. If any of the nominees are to get my vote, it'll be him. Although I might be a little biased, with his influence on me and all that

Originally Posted by duke knooby

i must confess, i expected elton and rick wakeman to appear in this one

Elton John would have been my next choice, for what that's worth. I particularly love his piano on "The One" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYK3jr_TDlQ). Beautiful

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

I personally don't see how Roy Bittan qualifies as a member of the NLE at all, outside of the fact he was a session musician at times. So what AndyK said

I think the deciding factor is whether the NLE name refers only to the touring band or not. If it does, since Roy never toured, he wouldn't qualify. Besides, Roy has done the majority of his musical work outside of the ML world.

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

Elton John would have been my next choice, for what that's worth. I particularly love his piano on "The One" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYK3jr_TDlQ). Beautiful

That was gorgeous- I love that song!

[wolfy35]

Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

I think the deciding factor is whether the NLE name refers only to the touring band or not. If it does, since Roy never toured, he wouldn't qualify. Besides, Roy has done the majority of his musical work outside of the ML world.



That was gorgeous- I love that song!

If you are going to look at where an artist has done the majority of their work outside the Meat/NLE realm as the deciding factor for eligibility it will get very messy indeed.

For example Dave Luther has by far done the vast majority of his work away from Meat.
John Miceli is another who has a larger volume of studio work with artists other than Meat as well as touring with many bands.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by wolfy35

If you are going to look at where an artist has done the majority of their work outside the Meat/NLE realm as the deciding factor for eligibility it will get very messy indeed.

For example Dave Luther has by far done the vast majority of his work away from Meat.
John Miceli is another who has a larger volume of studio work with artists other than Meat as well as touring with many bands.

No, that was "besides"; as I said, I think it depends whether the NLE name refers only to the touring band.

[duke knooby]

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

Elton John would have been my next choice, for what that's worth. I particularly love his piano on "The One" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYK3jr_TDlQ). Beautiful

great song and performance

thats all ya need, good song, good singer and a piano :)

[The Flying Mouse]

I'm of the point of view that because Roy has worked in the studio twice with Meat he is eligable as Brian May for induction.

It's true that members of the current line up of the NLE have done a lot of non Meat related work, but I believe that their current relationship with Meat would turn virtually every thread of the HOF into a one horse race. Hey, it's a Meat Loaf forum and you've got to expect folks here will like the band.

I'm still in favour of the live NLE (all members past and present) being inducted as a group to keep the other threads more Meat free (variety would be nice as this is the non Meat section of the forum) but perhaps we could consider members of the NLE as individuals if they have not been a part of the NLE (in the live sense) for a set period of time?
Say 15 to 20 years.

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I'm of the point of view that because Roy has worked in the studio twice with Meat he is eligable as Brian May for induction.

Roy's contribution can't be compared to Brian May's as May only played on Bad For Good, while Roy helped define the Meat Loaf sound with his thunder piano !

[AndyK]

Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

I think the deciding factor is whether the NLE name refers only to the touring band or not. If it does, since Roy never toured, he wouldn't qualify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Express

I'm not one to often rely on Wikipedia, but it seems quite definitive on the subject and I think it's a fair baseline to measure membership of the NLE from.

[The Flying Mouse]

Brian also worked in the studio on Time For Heroes, and for HCTB.

Roy and Brian have both worked in the studio with Meat, and both have brought a distictive sound to Meat's recordings.
I certainly wouldn't bar Brian from induction due to that.

So here's how we'll play this.
Roy is eligable for induction because he's never been a member of the NLE (I think his nomination here is more to do with his work with BS).
If folks think that's it's unfair that he's in the running they won't vote for him and he won't get in.
If folks think it's fair they will vote for him and he'll get in.
Either way the majority will have spoken

For next years nominations i'll be looking at making ex members of the NLE eligable for induction based on their other work and a set period of not working with Meat (10 years sounds good to me).

[chairboys]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

For next years nominations i'll be looking at making ex members of the NLE eligable for induction based on their other work and a set period of not working with Meat (10 years sounds good to me).

I'm thinking, perhaps, an 8 year and five month period?

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by chairboys

I'm thinking, perhaps, an 8 year and five month period?

I'm guessing John Golden?