35th anniversary of Bat

[Sarge]

I'm not a Todd Rundgren fan but some comments on here are not any better than the presumed insult they criticize. This thread is called "35th anniversary of Bat" - it seems to have turned into a discussion aimed at slagging off the album's producer.

Originally Posted by Evil Ernie

He deserves an immense amount of respect for what he has contributed to ML's career and music in general.

Statements like this will probably fall on deaf ears on a forum that asks you to voice your opinion "in a respectful manner" in bold red letters on top of the page but allows members to call people "piece of shit".

Originally Posted by stretch37

i love meat, and i was just defensive because that's what i do for my friends, i stick up for them :)

He's your "friend"? So he comes over to your house for coffee and cookies from time to time? Gives you a call? Goes fishing with you? Wow, what a lucky fellow you are...

Originally Posted by stretch37

Meat's confident too [...]

If he is why do you have to "defend", "protect", "stick up for", whatever him and get worked up about a comment made by someone you obviously don't care about?

[razorball2002]

Sarge... The Voice of Reason
Thanx.

Originally Posted by Sarge

I'm not a Todd Rundgren fan but some comments on here are not any better than the presumed insult they criticize. This thread is called "35th anniversary of Bat" - it seems to have turned into a discussion aimed at slagging off the album's producer.



Statements like this will probably fall on deaf ears on a forum that asks you to voice your opinion "in a respectful manner" in bold red letters on top of the page but allows members to call people "piece of shit".



He's your "friend"? So he comes over to your house for coffee and cookies from time to time? Gives you a call? Goes fishing with you? Wow, what a lucky fellow you are...



If he is why do you have to "defend", "protect", "stick up for", whatever him and get worked up about a comment made by someone you obviously don't care about?

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by stretch37

i love meat, and i was just defensive because that's what i do for my friends, i stick up for them.

In fact you're such good friends with Meat that you choose to download all his work for free.

[melon]

Originally Posted by Sarge

I'm not a Todd Rundgren fan but some comments on here are not any better than the presumed insult they criticize. This thread is called "35th anniversary of Bat" - it seems to have turned into a discussion aimed at slagging off the album's producer.



Statements like this will probably fall on deaf ears on a forum that asks you to voice your opinion "in a respectful manner" in bold red letters on top of the page but allows members to call people "piece of shit".

I actually agree with this

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Evil One

I think 'shite' was the word you were looking for.

That's the one

Originally Posted by samurai7

...and Hang Cool Teddy Bear

Thanks Sean

Originally Posted by Wario

Heaven Can Wait - dedication to Steve Popovich featuring Jim on piano

THIS!

Originally Posted by Evil Ernie

Wow. You guys are really protective of Meat.

Unless he comes out and says something really bad just take it as a ribbing between two men who have worked together on numerous occasions. They may have had their fights but they're have respect for each other. I believe they have both criticized each other (to my recollection), but if anybody can do it to each other it's those two.

For the record I think that Todd also has an amazing voice and he's a hell of a guitar player. Great producer and arranger as well. He deserves an immense amount of respect for what he has contributed to ML's career and music in general.

Well said.
Fans have got a way of creating division from other fans and fanning the flames much hotter and longer than the person they claim to champion.
Todd Rundgren and Meat, I don't know much about their relationship, and I don't think it's my need or right too.
I love Meat as an artist and follow his career closely. Todd, I don't follow so much, but I respect him, and i'm thankful to him, for the work he did with Bat Out Of Hell.
That's all I feel I need to know.
Everything else is between Meat and Todd.

Originally Posted by Evil One

In fact you're such good friends with Meat that you choose to download all his work for free.

Sorry Stretch, but this made me rofl

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Statements like this will probably fall on deaf ears on a forum that asks you to voice your opinion "in a respectful manner" in bold red letters on top of the page but allows members to call people "piece of shit".

An excellent point
I'd delete the offending comment myself, but another more efficient member of staff has beaten me to it
Either way, it's gone.

[LisaT]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

The article, like online forums, gives no indication how the joke was said. It's very hard to get the right inflection into the written word, and what might be said in the spirit of leg pulling can be taken as serious insult.

Aint THAT a fact! Some people take offense at the most innocent of remarks and are seriously lacking in the "sense of humour" department.

[The Flying Mouse]

Last couple of posts are history.
Points issued for the insult.

Can we grow up a little bit please and treat each other with just a little respect?

Back to topic...........

[Benny]

Excited to see a thread about 35th anniversary! But yet again all the excitement is gone when all we get is a slaggin match! Jesus.... I dont come on here much! Come y'all!

TODD RUNDGREN was so important (god like) as is Meat, Jim and all involved!
Roy Bittan ahh that man can play!

Wonder what the show will be like, awesome ofcourse!!

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by Dave

Todd having respect for someone, that is funny. He had three of the original members of Utopia on stage with him at the show I saw and still had to "count in" all of the songs and would direct the entire band like a symphony conductor. I really think the musicians were far more capable than he gave them credit for. It really turned me off.

I've never seen Utopia, but how does him counting in the songs and or directing the band indicate a lack of respect? Springsteen still "counts in" practically every song after thirty-something years with the same musicians, I think as much for himself as for the rest of the band. I don't think he lacks any confidence in their abilities at all- quite the opposite. A strong bandleader is exactly that- you know the players' strengths and use them to their advantage. Some bands play strictly rehearsed songs, others are a bit more spontaneous.

As for Todd, I've heard Kasim say he's a very sarcastic person by nature.

Originally Posted by Benny

Roy Bittan ahh that man can play!

He surely can- The Professor rocks!

As to the topic, I would love to see something special being done for the anniversary- I think the album was too important not to acknowledge it in some way.

[Nick]

Think Kasim will be back? Maybe an Ellen? Cher? I'm throwin' out names!

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by Nick

Think Kasim will be back? Maybe an Ellen? Cher? I'm throwin' out names!

Why Cher? She wasn't involved with Bat 1. Neither was Brian May, for that matter.

[AndyK]

Two observations:

1) Has anyone properly read the article I wonder?

It states

He will celebrate this Anniversary with featured guest appearances by several musicians who have provided major inspiration to his career.

So speculation about Jim, Roy, Todd etc appearing at the concert would appear to be someway off the mark I think (although not perhaps 100% ruled out).

2) The endless dropping to the gutter level to slate someone who apparently has said something not to complimentary about Meat is getting tiresome... disagree with the opinion fine (round here pretty much all of us will in this case that's a given), but when it descends to the level it has done where it's a character assassination, it's not acceptable.

[MarkS]

Will be interested to see who appears at the show. And hopefully if there are some interesting names we will get some audio of it somewhere down the line

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[Vickip]

Originally Posted by MarkS

Will be interested to see who appears at the show. And hopefully if there are some interesting names we will get some audio of it somewhere down the line

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And video

[Dave]

Sammy Hagar is the special guest.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Dave

Sammy Hagar is the special guest.

http://wncx.cbslocal.com/2012/10/16/...eland-concert/

[Sue K]

Originally Posted by Dave

http://wncx.cbslocal.com/2012/10/16/...eland-concert/

Thanks for the share, David. My thought is he'll join up with Meat for Amnesty Is Granted ? ...

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Dave

http://wncx.cbslocal.com/2012/10/16/...eland-concert/

... thanks Dave

Originally Posted by Sue K

Thanks for the share, David. My thought is he'll join up with Meat for Amnesty Is Granted ? ...

I was thinking the same thing .... but Amnesty Is Granted isn't part of the current set list. I wonder what else
they could sing together, and if there will be other guests ?

[anotherday]

This might be stupid.. BUT...... Sammy Hagar?? Why? Whata the connection?

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by anotherday

This might be stupid.. BUT...... Sammy Hagar?? Why? Whata the connection?

I don't know of any connection to BOOH, but Sammy did write Amnesty Is Granted for Welcome To The Neighborhood

[AndyK]

See my post above, the connection as I see it is that the special guests are those who have influenced Meat in his career, I'm sure I remember an inteview years ago (and I'm talking before the internet here, which most except Michael won't remember ) where Meat talked about how much he admired and respected Sammy Hagar and that there were influences he drew from him.

[loaferman61]

Originally Posted by AndyK

See my post above, the connection as I see it is that the special guests are those who have influenced Meat in his career, I'm sure I remember an inteview years ago (and I'm talking before the internet here, which most except Michael won't remember ) where Meat talked about how much he admired and respected Sammy Hagar and that there were influences he drew from him.

I'm picturing some people expecting big names who have never intended to be there. Maybe some surprises show up, but I wouldn't go expecting anyone who is not formally announced. Working too many guests into the show may not be an easy task is another consideration.