which ablum is better bat or CHSIB - Page 2

Bren · 12 May 2003, 13:20

I'm with you on that one Dotster. You can't compare BOOH with CHSIB.They are both superb albums in their own right,but very different ,you can't compare one to the other,it's daft to try.Just enjoy them for what they are!!

Peat Loaf · 12 May 2003, 13:34

Nothing will ever come close to BOOH sorry peeps but thats a fact i don't understand how any one can compear any album to it

Pete

JacenSolo · 12 May 2003, 17:04

I'll agree Bat will be impossible to be topped, it was a defining album, and to me, Bat 2 is too. Where the new one fits in after that is still up in the air with me, i need to give it a bit more time

evil nickname · 12 May 2003, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

Better than Bat is impossible.

I must admit that Bat is one of my all-time favorite records, but to me Bat II is better. It's the first album I've ever bought, I've listened to it billions of times, and it doesn't have Paradise on it...

But I think that better than bat is possible... my 0.02 eurocents

Bart · 13 May 2003, 11:04

i have heard that statement before from other fans. Which album one prefer is also because of the sentiment. Which one has made you a fan. Which one have you heard first. Bat was my first, bat 2 was yours.

Shane · 14 May 2003, 01:51

I won't say that topping Bat is impossible, because I don't know what the future will bring. Maybe some people think Bat 2 is better. Maybe some people will Bat 3 will be better. Maybe some day another songwriter will come along that might be better than Jim. Some will say that's impossible, but how do you know the future? How do you know what else is out there that you haven't heard? I don't know every other songwriter or album in the world that exists so I can't really say that it is the best album. But I'm not really interested in making comparisons. I don't find that an interesting topic, so I wouldn't go into that subject anyway, at least not often.

Personally I wouldn't say that Do It is the wrong song for Meat. I would say that we don't really know Meat as well as we could if we didn't expect him to do such a song. I don't think of it in terms of the rhythm or style (almost rap-like), but that it is different (refreshing), and a good message...DO IT!!! Listening to him performing that song reminds me of him doing the last minute of All Revved Up in Storytellers. It shows that classic, virtually limitless Meat Loaf energy.

original sin · 15 May 2003, 00:19

I don't think they can be compared. To some degree its almost an evolution. Probably the first song you hear will be be the one that sticks with you and for me it will always be BooH as a single and album. BooH itself has just gotta be the best intrumental intro of all time

Ben · 15 May 2003, 00:57

i agree about the intro, its fantastic!

Peat Loaf · 15 May 2003, 01:00

Took the words was the first song i heard walked in to my mates bed room when he was playing the album i was hooked imeadeately

Pete

Fire Ball · 17 May 2003, 04:21

some of you just don't get it!!!! it is very funny and it's only 2 min and something long, and the way it was recorded will one day make history.
the song is very much me much more than something like unsaid, yriww one of the best vocals i've ever recorded. just listen to the vocal.

ml

Shane · 17 May 2003, 04:23

Will you be performing it on the world tour?

Tim · 17 May 2003, 12:58

Coulndn't have said it better, Fire Ball.... it is indeed very funny!!!!

evil nickname · 17 May 2003, 14:28

Well, when I first heard CHSIB (the album) from start too end, I was all like "is this the album I've been waiting for, for the past 3 years?" The songs just didn't grab me, with one exception (sp?): Do It!
This song stood out, just because it's different from what Meat has done... and indeed, it's very tongue-in-cheek (at least, that's what I think). Personally, I would be rather disappointed if CHSIB was exactly like Bat, or Dead Ringer, or Bad Attitude, or all the others. It's different! If I want another record that sounds just like Bat, I'll listen to Bat some more. Change is good. And artists need to grow and expand their style. Otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of albums which all sound alike. Dutchies will know what I mean when I say: Frans Bauer. (For all none Dutchies here: AC/DC is accused of releasing the same album every year or two, cause they all sound the same. Well, Frans Bauer releases each year the same album with 12 times the same song)

Well, my 2 eurocents on this matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

and the way it was recorded will one day make history.

Please tell me more... let's make history today!

Danny L · 17 May 2003, 18:08

In my book, Bat 2 wins the award for best packaging, Dead ringer, chsib, I'd Lie for You, BOOH, Anything For love, paradise, testify, nothing sacred, why isnt that enough

- best song!! (God, I should be on the telly), BOOH

'nuff said

Regards,
Danny

Danny L · 17 May 2003, 18:15

Yeah, you guessed it - i'm fond of the duets

**Diane** · 17 May 2003, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

some of you just don't get it!!!! it is very funny and it's only 2 min and something long, and the way it was recorded will one day make history.

ml

Just curious now. Anyone know why the way "Do It!" was recorded will someday make history?

Feleena · 17 May 2003, 21:02

Hey Diane perhaps Fire Ball could tell us??

Feleena x

mariella · 18 May 2003, 11:33

Yes, I would also like to know how Do It was recorded, but I am sure one day Meat will tell us all about that!

I have been listening to YRIWW this morning, LOVE the vocals, maybe I just think the other songs on the album are SO great, compared to them I feel this is just a litlle 'less great'. But I am working on it. Thank you!!

Great day to you,

Mariella

CarylB · 18 May 2003, 20:45

I never understand the need or desire to try to compare Meat's albums and decide which is "best" .. each for me is a beautiful album .. I am buying a work from a man who is driven by a desire to constantly improve .. so I expect to hear that .. and I do, simple as that.

Some songs may edge forward a little at times because the words call to me in a specific way ..but if you ask me what is my favourite I inevitably find myself thinking .. the one I'm listening to! And with the current album every single track seems perfect .. and each acts as counterpoint to the others .. there is variety yet harmony, a perfect balance .. nothing disappoints from the frenetic energy of Do It, to the vocals on You're Right (how anyone can dismiss that as over simple is beyond me) to the sheer brilliance of Man of Steel to Because of You, which captures that incredible feeling of being consumed by falling in love, to the WOW of CHSIB, to the evocative Did I Say That etc etc. I just wish the album could have included the deliciously Decadent Wish as well

For me each album and each song are like carefully crafted works of art .. like a piece of blown glass or furniture. Impossible to say whether I like the vase better than the dish, or the chest of drawers better than the table .. each was made by a craftsman, each is a perfect delight to behold .. Meat is a craftsman and each is a perfect delight to hear

Terri · 18 May 2003, 23:49

Totally agree with CarylB -

But I must say with CHSIB I love each and every track. As it is with BOOH. It's along time since I have bought an album where I have been able to say that.

Bart · 19 May 2003, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariella

Yes, I would also like to know how Do It was recorded, but I am sure one day Meat will tell us all about that!

I have been listening to YRIWW this morning, LOVE the vocals, maybe I just think the other songs on the album are SO great, compared to them I feel this is just a litlle 'less great'. But I am working on it. Thank you!!

Great day to you,

Mariella

I think Fire Ball meant the vocals on Do it! are great, not YRIWW

mariella · 19 May 2003, 16:40

Dear Baldy,

You could be right about that. Yes, thank you!

Still feel YRIWW is good but not AS good as the rest of the songs.

Great day to you,

Mariella

Bart · 20 May 2003, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariella

Dear Baldy,

Still feel YRIWW is good but not AS good as the rest of the songs.

Great day to you,

Mariella

Yes you are right. I think Fire Ball just said the same thing

I still think that he put it on the record to do Warren a favour.

RSG · 14 Jan 2004, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

some of you just don't get it!!!! it is very funny and it's only 2 min and something long, and the way it was recorded will one day make history.
the song is very much me much more than something like unsaid, yriww one of the best vocals i've ever recorded. just listen to the vocal.

ml

I always liked "Do It!" since i first heard it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this song. The solo equal to "Because Of You" 's in amazing outstanding way. It is indeed funny, but near the first, where you say "Stake Your fakin' put your reputation to it! Dot it, Do It, Just Do It" I so really agree with that line. now as for "YRIWW", it took me a bit more to understand, it is a great piece, and I'm liking it more and more everytime I hear it. It is my least liked song on the record, but its still awesome. quickly turning from and an 8, to a 9\10. see what i mean?

opinions are opinions, and we all have one. there is only one kind of bad opinion. the opinion you make up to please someone. if its not your TRUE opinion, that is a bad opinion. opinions can also change, that doesn't make it a bad opinion. i always base my opinions to myself, and they often change, but that's the way things go, am i right?

rockfenris2005 · 14 Jan 2004, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB

For me each album and each song are like carefully crafted works of art .. like a piece of blown glass or furniture. Impossible to say whether I like the vase better than the dish, or the chest of drawers better than the table .. each was made by a craftsman, each is a perfect delight to behold .. Meat is a craftsman and each is a perfect delight to hear

This is the most intelligent thing I've ever heard. Thank you !

14 May 2003, 01:51	#31
Shane Super Loafer Join Date: 30.04.2002 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand (GMT+12) Posts: 608	Bat I won't say that topping Bat is impossible, because I don't know what the future will bring. Maybe some people think Bat 2 is better. Maybe some people will Bat 3 will be better. Maybe some day another songwriter will come along that might be better than Jim. Some will say that's impossible, but how do you know the future? How do you know what else is out there that you haven't heard? I don't know every other songwriter or album in the world that exists so I can't really say that it is the best album. But I'm not really interested in making comparisons. I don't find that an interesting topic, so I wouldn't go into that subject anyway, at least not often. Personally I wouldn't say that Do It is the wrong song for Meat. I would say that we don't really know Meat as well as we could if we didn't expect him to do such a song. I don't think of it in terms of the rhythm or style (almost rap-like), but that it is different (refreshing), and a good message...DO IT!!! Listening to him performing that song reminds me of him doing the last minute of All Revved Up in Storytellers. It shows that classic, virtually limitless Meat Loaf energy.

17 May 2003, 04:21	#35
Fire Ball Himself Join Date: 05.02.2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,044	do it some of you just don't get it!!!! it is very funny and it's only 2 min and something long, and the way it was recorded will one day make history. the song is very much me much more than something like unsaid, yriww one of the best vocals i've ever recorded. just listen to the vocal. ml

17 May 2003, 04:23	#36
Shane Super Loafer Join Date: 30.04.2002 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand (GMT+12) Posts: 608	Meat Will you be performing it on the world tour?

12 May 2003, 13:20	#26
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	I'm with you on that one Dotster. You can't compare BOOH with CHSIB.They are both superb albums in their own right,but very different ,you can't compare one to the other,it's daft to try.Just enjoy them for what they are!!

12 May 2003, 13:34	#27
Peat Loaf Senior Loafer Join Date: 03.04.2003 Location: Scotland UK Posts: 156	Nothing will ever come close to BOOH sorry peeps but thats a fact i don't understand how any one can compear any album to it Pete

12 May 2003, 17:04	#28
JacenSolo Loafer Join Date: 19.04.2003 Location: Dallas (birthplace of Meat Loaf) Posts: 58	I'll agree Bat will be impossible to be topped, it was a defining album, and to me, Bat 2 is too. Where the new one fits in after that is still up in the air with me, i need to give it a bit more time

13 May 2003, 11:04	#30
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	i have heard that statement before from other fans. Which album one prefer is also because of the sentiment. Which one has made you a fan. Which one have you heard first. Bat was my first, bat 2 was yours.

15 May 2003, 00:19	#32
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	I don't think they can be compared. To some degree its almost an evolution. Probably the first song you hear will be be the one that sticks with you and for me it will always be BooH as a single and album. BooH itself has just gotta be the best intrumental intro of all time

15 May 2003, 00:57	#33
Ben Mega Loafer Join Date: 19.03.2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 4,163	i agree about the intro, its fantastic!

15 May 2003, 01:00	#34
Peat Loaf Senior Loafer Join Date: 03.04.2003 Location: Scotland UK Posts: 156	Took the words was the first song i heard walked in to my mates bed room when he was playing the album i was hooked imeadeately Pete

17 May 2003, 12:58	#37
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Coulndn't have said it better, Fire Ball.... it is indeed very funny!!!!

17 May 2003, 18:08	#39
Danny L Super Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2003 Location: Rutland, England Posts: 453	In my book, Bat 2 wins the award for best packaging, Dead ringer, chsib, I'd Lie for You, BOOH, Anything For love, paradise, testify, nothing sacred, why isnt that enough - best song!! (God, I should be on the telly), BOOH 'nuff said Regards, Danny

17 May 2003, 18:15	#40
Danny L Super Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2003 Location: Rutland, England Posts: 453	Yeah, you guessed it - i'm fond of the duets

17 May 2003, 21:02	#42
Feleena Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Bedford UK Posts: 562	Hey Diane perhaps Fire Ball could tell us?? Feleena x

18 May 2003, 11:33	#43
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	Yes, I would also like to know how Do It was recorded, but I am sure one day Meat will tell us all about that! I have been listening to YRIWW this morning, LOVE the vocals, maybe I just think the other songs on the album are SO great, compared to them I feel this is just a litlle 'less great'. But I am working on it. Thank you!! Great day to you, Mariella

18 May 2003, 20:45	#44
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I never understand the need or desire to try to compare Meat's albums and decide which is "best" .. each for me is a beautiful album .. I am buying a work from a man who is driven by a desire to constantly improve .. so I expect to hear that .. and I do, simple as that. Some songs may edge forward a little at times because the words call to me in a specific way ..but if you ask me what is my favourite I inevitably find myself thinking .. the one I'm listening to! And with the current album every single track seems perfect .. and each acts as counterpoint to the others .. there is variety yet harmony, a perfect balance .. nothing disappoints from the frenetic energy of Do It, to the vocals on You're Right (how anyone can dismiss that as over simple is beyond me) to the sheer brilliance of Man of Steel to Because of You, which captures that incredible feeling of being consumed by falling in love, to the WOW of CHSIB, to the evocative Did I Say That etc etc. I just wish the album could have included the deliciously Decadent Wish as well For me each album and each song are like carefully crafted works of art .. like a piece of blown glass or furniture. Impossible to say whether I like the vase better than the dish, or the chest of drawers better than the table .. each was made by a craftsman, each is a perfect delight to behold .. Meat is a craftsman and each is a perfect delight to hear

18 May 2003, 23:49	#45
Terri Super T Join Date: 14.05.2003 Posts: 1,235	Totally agree with CarylB - But I must say with CHSIB I love each and every track. As it is with BOOH. It's along time since I have bought an album where I have been able to say that.

19 May 2003, 16:40	#47
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	Dear Baldy, You could be right about that. Yes, thank you! Still feel YRIWW is good but not AS good as the rest of the songs. Great day to you, Mariella