Bat Out Of Hell SACD - Released - Page 2

LucyK! · 18 Jun 2008, 16:17

As I'm reading it you'd end up with three separate things - the gold disc from the 1990s, the SACD Bat album, and a gold SACD album? Have I got it?!

Kev · 18 Jun 2008, 16:18

I think I'm as confussed as the rest now! I've pullled it from sale at the moment.

I've mailed the guy who has been sorting this for me at Sony BMG. Should a SACD play on a normal CD player? I've put this in, and it works...

The notes I have state this is a SACD version... the packaging doesn't say anything about SACD but goes on about Mastersound.

**Monstro** · 18 Jun 2008, 16:22

I thought SACD's played on normal players but only played in stereo, you need a certain player to get all the channels

*AndyK* · 18 Jun 2008, 16:25

An SACD should contain a 2 channel stereo mix ... does the actual disc have the "Compact Disc Audio" logo on it? As well as the multi-channel audio mix.

To hear the Super Audio CD (mulitchannel) recording you need the specific player.

Sounds to me as if it's a re-release of the mastersound godl disc, which is a standard audio CD, not the multichannel SACD.

LucyK! · 18 Jun 2008, 16:25

You know what, why don't we all stick to vinyl

*AndyK* · 18 Jun 2008, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

You know what, why don't we all stick to vinyl

No music in the car then

**Diane** · 18 Jun 2008, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro

I thought SACD's played on normal players but only played in stereo, you need a certain player to get all the channels

I believe only some SACD's will work in a standard CD player but only in stereo obviously. You need an SACD player for 5.1 surround sound.

The Couldn't Have Said It Better SACD plays in a standard player but the Bat Out Of Hell one doesn't.

Diane

Kev · 18 Jun 2008, 16:29

It's got
SDRM
SACD
SACEM
SGDL

below that the compact disk logo

**Diane** · 18 Jun 2008, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

You know what, why don't we all stick to vinyl

Black vinyl, coloured vinyl, picture discs, shaped picture discs, audiophile pressings, picture sleeves, gatefold sleeves, foldout poster sleeves ...................... and we can't play any of them on the move!

There's no way I'd part with my record collection though!

Diane

Kev · 18 Jun 2008, 16:39

does anyone else have the gold disk to hand? it mentions SACD on the right side on this disk...

**Diane** · 18 Jun 2008, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by icwuke

does anyone else have the gold disk to hand? it mentions SACD on the right side on this disk...

I've got the gold disk in front of me now. It doesn't say SACD on the disc itself. The back of the insert says MasterSound and SBM (super bit mapping).

So it would seem the new CD effectively isn't so much a re-issue but a new release.

Diane

Kev · 18 Jun 2008, 16:49

I'm getting our audio expert over tonight to have a good look at it, he's said if 'SACD' is on the disk then that is what it is. But he'll have a look tonight and let me know tomorrow :)

daveake · 18 Jun 2008, 19:07

The next thing we need to know, Kevin, is whether it's a stereo or 5.1 surround SACD.

Dave

duke knooby · 18 Jun 2008, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diane

I believe only some SACD's will work in a standard CD player but only in stereo obviously.

Diane

100% spot on... only a hybrid disc will play in both types of player, as it has the cd layer, which will play in any cd player, and the sacd layer which will only play on a sacd compatible player, as stated above, the sacd may by in stereo, or multi channel... however most home theatre kits this past 5 years have been sacd compatible anyway... (especially anything by sony or philips as they invented the format (and pioneer, cause they're great lol))

**RadioMaster** · 18 Jun 2008, 19:22

good old fashioned logic tells me that if the disc and cover say SACD then it IS a SACD.

could we get any pictures kev?

duke knooby · 18 Jun 2008, 21:18

only numbers i can see on this 90's release is ek64404 on the disc itself... (not just my first meat loaf cd... but my first cd ever lol)

duke knooby · 18 Jun 2008, 21:23

and for those bargain hunters out there...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...U/ref=dp_olp_2

low item price

Kev · 19 Jun 2008, 10:40

I'm working on some photos, the cam on my phone is pretty crap though. Gonna sort some when I get home and have them tomorrow hopefully!

RJ, the disk says 'SACD' but the case doesn't. There's no proper booklet in there explaining anything either, its like a fold out poster of the album cover on one side and the other side has all the credits and lyrics etc.

The Amazon one is a joke, I uploaded our version at £29.99 but pulled it with the confusion over whats what!

The vinyl replica version is available again, its basically the BOOH cd where one side looks like a vinyl, its pretty cool too. I paid £13 from amazon market place a few months back, not impressed as we now have it again, and much cheaper.

Down the right hand side of the disk it has

Epic logo
4804112 - cat num
a square box with SACEM along the top
down the left SACD
down the right SGDL
and in the middle SDRM

Below that the compact disk logo

then LC00199

then 01-480411-01

4804112000

finally the clevland logo

*AndyK* · 19 Jun 2008, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by icwuke

finally the clevland logo

Well at least Sony are putting that back on again now after the years of legal battles that Steve Popovich won!

Kev · 19 Jun 2008, 10:54

On that note, I think there was only the release of the bat CD which doesn't have 'Songs By Jim Steinman' on the front that didn't have the clevland logo?

**RadioMaster** · 19 Jun 2008, 11:00

did you try to put it into a dvd player with surround sound? many dvd players can play SACD's and if not, youd either get the info its a normal CD, or an error message, which would mean its a SACD.

18 Jun 2008, 16:17	#26
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	As I'm reading it you'd end up with three separate things - the gold disc from the 1990s, the SACD Bat album, and a gold SACD album? Have I got it?!

18 Jun 2008, 16:18	#27
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	I think I'm as confussed as the rest now! I've pullled it from sale at the moment. I've mailed the guy who has been sorting this for me at Sony BMG. Should a SACD play on a normal CD player? I've put this in, and it works... The notes I have state this is a SACD version... the packaging doesn't say anything about SACD but goes on about Mastersound.

18 Jun 2008, 16:22	#28
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	I thought SACD's played on normal players but only played in stereo, you need a certain player to get all the channels

18 Jun 2008, 16:25	#29
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	An SACD should contain a 2 channel stereo mix ... does the actual disc have the "Compact Disc Audio" logo on it? As well as the multi-channel audio mix. To hear the Super Audio CD (mulitchannel) recording you need the specific player. Sounds to me as if it's a re-release of the mastersound godl disc, which is a standard audio CD, not the multichannel SACD.

18 Jun 2008, 16:29	#33
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	It's got SDRM SACD SACEM SGDL below that the compact disk logo

18 Jun 2008, 16:39	#35
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	does anyone else have the gold disk to hand? it mentions SACD on the right side on this disk...

18 Jun 2008, 16:49	#37
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	I'm getting our audio expert over tonight to have a good look at it, he's said if 'SACD' is on the disk then that is what it is. But he'll have a look tonight and let me know tomorrow :)

18 Jun 2008, 19:07	#38
daveake 200% is the new 110% Join Date: 13.03.2005 Location: Newbury Posts: 2,983	The next thing we need to know, Kevin, is whether it's a stereo or 5.1 surround SACD. Dave

18 Jun 2008, 19:22	#40
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	good old fashioned logic tells me that if the disc and cover say SACD then it IS a SACD. could we get any pictures kev?

18 Jun 2008, 21:18	#41
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,890	only numbers i can see on this 90's release is ek64404 on the disc itself... (not just my first meat loaf cd... but my first cd ever lol)

18 Jun 2008, 21:23	#42
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,890	and for those bargain hunters out there... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...U/ref=dp_olp_2 low item price

19 Jun 2008, 10:40	#43
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	I'm working on some photos, the cam on my phone is pretty crap though. Gonna sort some when I get home and have them tomorrow hopefully! RJ, the disk says 'SACD' but the case doesn't. There's no proper booklet in there explaining anything either, its like a fold out poster of the album cover on one side and the other side has all the credits and lyrics etc. The Amazon one is a joke, I uploaded our version at £29.99 but pulled it with the confusion over whats what! The vinyl replica version is available again, its basically the BOOH cd where one side looks like a vinyl, its pretty cool too. I paid £13 from amazon market place a few months back, not impressed as we now have it again, and much cheaper. Down the right hand side of the disk it has Epic logo 4804112 - cat num a square box with SACEM along the top down the left SACD down the right SGDL and in the middle SDRM Below that the compact disk logo then LC00199 then 01-480411-01 4804112000 finally the clevland logo

19 Jun 2008, 10:54	#45
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	On that note, I think there was only the release of the bat CD which doesn't have 'Songs By Jim Steinman' on the front that didn't have the clevland logo?

19 Jun 2008, 11:00	#46
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	did you try to put it into a dvd player with surround sound? many dvd players can play SACD's and if not, youd either get the info its a normal CD, or an error message, which would mean its a SACD.