Frying Pan to Lemon (Omit Bat?) - Page 2

SamCat · 04 Jun 2008, 01:01

No more Lemon, no more Patti and CC in those outfits and lots of disappointed guys!!!

Elijah's way · 04 Jun 2008, 04:09

lemon is one of his best songs!

Renegade Angel · 04 Jun 2008, 20:21

I think the set could do with a change, why is it so sacred to have certain songs played at every gig? I love bands and artists that change the set every night, R.E.M are great at doing it and Guns N' Roses had a core of about 30 songs that they varied on most nights.

How about Bat opening the show? maybe with an extended intro? or how about more songs from Neighbourhood or Deadringer? Deadringer is as good as if not better than Bat2 IMO
I know this would be hard for the band to reherse and i can see Meat's point that people want to hear the 'hits' but this can still be achieved.

To me Lemon and Frying pan could do with a rest and i hate the way songs are shortened to fit others in, I'd rather a set of 10 full length songs rather than 16 short ones.

how about a set like:

Bat Out Of Hell
I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back
I'd Lie For You and thats the truth
You Took The Words
Deadringer
Original Sin
Bad For Good
Everything Louder
Read Em And Weep
Anything For Love
Paradise By The Dashboard Light

AndrewG · 04 Jun 2008, 20:37

I'd love to hear "I'll Kill You...". He should do "Where the Rubber meets the Road" and "Amnesty is Granted" too.

djfierce · 04 Jun 2008, 20:42

i agree he should def do songs from other albums, and as this isnt the 3 bats tour maybe he will, there are loads i would love to hear would be here all night trying to prioritise them, not too sure about bat as a starting song, it feels right at the end to me, going out with a bang and all that stuff lol

Renegade Angel · 04 Jun 2008, 20:54

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Originally Posted by djfierce

i agree he should def do songs from other albums, and as this isnt the 3 bats tour maybe he will, there are loads i would love to hear would be here all night trying to prioritise them, not too sure about bat as a starting song, it feels right at the end to me, going out with a bang and all that stuff lol

I see your point about Bat but he never actually ends with it anyway, he always does an encore so sometimes does upto 4 songs after it.

Wario · 04 Jun 2008, 20:57

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Originally Posted by Renegade Angel

I see your point about Bat but he never actually ends with it anyway, he always does an encore so sometimes does upto 4 songs after it.

He ends the concerts with Bat when he was with the MSO

Sarge · 04 Jun 2008, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Renegade Angel

how about a set like:

Bat Out Of Hell
I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back
I'd Lie For You and thats the truth
You Took The Words
Deadringer
Original Sin
Bad For Good
Everything Louder
Read Em And Weep
Anything For Love
Paradise By The Dashboard Light

Excellent suggestion but I'd prefer Frying Pan to Anything for Love. Don't get me wrong, AFL is one of the most gorgeous pieces of music ever written but since they play it on radio and TV quite often, it has lost a little bit of its attraction. I'd also favor Surf's Up, It Just Won't Quit and Left in the Dark (saw him performing that one in an absolutely stunning way some years ago

). I'd like to hear some Neighborhood stuff again, it's one of his best albums. Outshines Bat III, in my opinion.

djfierce · 04 Jun 2008, 21:24

i agree with all of the above

, only i've never seen him pwerform left in the dark so would def love that

**RadioMaster** · 04 Jun 2008, 21:25

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

He ends the concerts with Bat when he was with the MSO

wasnt that edited as well? I seem to remember someone saying this wasnt the original setlist and a few encores followed BOOH?

geordieloaf · 04 Jun 2008, 21:29

I would love to hear peel out live, i just hope there are a couple of surprise's in the set list. Maybe Read em weep or surf's up.

Renegade Angel · 04 Jun 2008, 21:46

Im sure I heard somewhere that during the last leg of the tour, meat said he's thought about doing read em and weep but decided to do Im gonna love her for both of us?
I wouldn't be suprised to see a similar set list to the last tour. Im thinking a lot of duets will be involved with Patti being back so expect Paradise, Deadringer, IDAFL, I'd lie for you and Its all coming back to me now.

Sarge · 04 Jun 2008, 21:47

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Originally Posted by geordieloaf

I would love to hear peel out live

Me too.

As far as I know, it was performed live in the late 1980s but only by the band as a kind of bridge, without anybody singing.

wolfy35 · 04 Jun 2008, 22:42

I would like to hear What about love, it is a good uptempo song and with it being a duet originally performed with Patti what better to put on the setlist for her return?

**Monstro** · 04 Jun 2008, 22:46

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Originally Posted by wolfy35

I would like to hear What about love, it is a good uptempo song and with it being a duet originally performed with Patti what better to put on the setlist for her return?

I'm really hoping for this as well, good choice!!

duke knooby · 04 Jun 2008, 22:47

and surfs up

**Monstro** · 04 Jun 2008, 22:55

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

and surfs up

Goes without saying but there's as much chance of that as "Don't You Look At Me Like That"

duke knooby · 04 Jun 2008, 23:13

no ta... i'll stick with surfs up lol

angelica · 05 Jun 2008, 00:05

Love frying pan ... adore lemon and Bat well you just GOTTA have Bat out of hell!

lorenzoduke · 05 Jun 2008, 11:56

Suggesting Meat Loaf omits Bat is bloody ridiculous. Half of the people at any given concert came to hear it.

Wario · 05 Jun 2008, 13:45

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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke

Suggesting Meat Loaf omits Bat is bloody ridiculous. Half of the people at any given concert came to hear it.

I know, but i would like to note it wasn't my direct suggestion but my cusin's (in my opinion, Bat needs to be in it and Frying pan stands as my 2nd fav. Meat Song, so its not old to me) :)

IMO: This is the set of the "House of Meat" Tour

(I have a 19 song set here, one more than 3 Bats Live - Not Counting Speeches)

Set Part 1

AFL
Paradise
Wasted Youth (Speech)
Bad For Good
Took The Words
Frying Pan
Modern Girl
I'm Gonna Love Her For Both of Us
Masculine
Read 'EM and Weep

Set Part 2

CHSIB
Where The Rubber Meets The Road
DRFL
Who Needs The Young? (Speech)
Good Girls Go To Heaven
Rock'n Roll Dreams
Two Out Of Three
Bat out of Hell

Encore

What About Love? (With Patty)
Bad Attitude (With Kasim)
Dance In My Pants (With Patty)

**The Flying Mouse** · 05 Jun 2008, 15:58

The reason Meat has got to do classics like Bat and Paradise is for people who are going to see him for the first time.

Let's not be selfish about the set list here, when was the first time you saw Meat live?

First time I got to see him was 2002 (very late start to going to shows

) and how would I feel if I didn't get to see him play Bat just once?

How many people went to see him for the first time, say, on the Welcome To The Neighborhood tour?

Bat Out Of Hell was released what? 22 years years before WTTN? So why did he have to perform it then?

I think one of the guys I know who's been going to ML shows longer than most folks is Andy, and if i'm correct he saw Meat for the first time in 84 on the Bad Attitude tour.

That's a whole 7 years after Bat was released, so why should he still perform it?

If Meat didn't continue to play some of his standard classics for many years, I don't think many people on this forum would have had the opportunity to hear it live.

Hands up those who were at a Meat Loaf concert in 77/78?

Because by the rationelle of dropping classics, you wouldn't have seen Bat performed if you hadn't been to those shows.

Even if you did think Bat was getting stale (or even Paradise) could you deny fans being able to see these songs sung for themselves

*AndyK* · 05 Jun 2008, 16:13

I don't think anyone is saying he should drop all of the standards from one show ... I know I'm certainly not. My argument is pro-rotation.

To use the Springsteen analogy again, it could be argued that in the UK Dancing In The Dark and Born To Run are two of Springsteen's best known songs, before this recent tour I'd seen the Boss play live in the last 24 years, more times when he didn't perform either of those songs than when he did. Every show a sell out, every show with satisfied punters leaving at the end of it. One of the reasons they leave satisifed is (IMO) that he changes the songs he does perform so you never actually know what you're going to hear (in fact half the time the band never know what they'll be playing next, but that's another thing lol).

If there was some aternation of Paradise, AFL, Took The Words, All Revved Up, Deadringer etc from show to show then the regular concert goers would be happy, and the one time concert goers would be happy because they'd seen some of the "staples". Personally I don't think Bat could or should be dropped. I don't think the other staples will be either, but it's a nice theory

LucyK! · 05 Jun 2008, 16:25

I don't think he could, or would, ever drop BOOH, and to be honest I think some of the show would feel missing if the lights came up and we went home not having heard it.

In regards Lemon and Frying Pan...ideal world for me would be to alternate between the two. I'm swayed towards Frying Pan because I've seen it live fewer times than Lemon, but I'd be sad to see Lemon go for good, especially with Patti back. When I was younger I hated the album version (I know, shoot me now huh) and it was the live version that brought me around to it so I'd like to see it stay (and as Emma said, thing of the outfits fellas!)...but hey, only a few weeks to wait and see!

AndrewG · 05 Jun 2008, 16:27

I agree with Andy. I'd like to see more artists adopt the Springsteen approach live much more, especially Meat considering his vast back catalogue now and as he himself said back in 2003 he thought he and Springsteen were the only true good rock performers left.
In my opinion "The hair of the dog tour" was done as if the band was on automatic pilot; hardly any changes to the setlist, no crowd interaction and thus only going to one or two shows was enough I thought. I'd like to see different set lists on this tour for a change.

04 Jun 2008, 01:01	#26
SamCat Hello Harry!!!! Join Date: 11.09.2006 Location: London Posts: 3,086	No more Lemon, no more Patti and CC in those outfits and lots of disappointed guys!!!

04 Jun 2008, 04:09	#27
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	lemon is one of his best songs!

04 Jun 2008, 20:21	#28
Renegade Angel Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: UK Posts: 551	I think the set could do with a change, why is it so sacred to have certain songs played at every gig? I love bands and artists that change the set every night, R.E.M are great at doing it and Guns N' Roses had a core of about 30 songs that they varied on most nights. How about Bat opening the show? maybe with an extended intro? or how about more songs from Neighbourhood or Deadringer? Deadringer is as good as if not better than Bat2 IMO I know this would be hard for the band to reherse and i can see Meat's point that people want to hear the 'hits' but this can still be achieved. To me Lemon and Frying pan could do with a rest and i hate the way songs are shortened to fit others in, I'd rather a set of 10 full length songs rather than 16 short ones. how about a set like: Bat Out Of Hell I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back I'd Lie For You and thats the truth You Took The Words Deadringer Original Sin Bad For Good Everything Louder Read Em And Weep Anything For Love Paradise By The Dashboard Light

04 Jun 2008, 20:37	#29
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	I'd love to hear "I'll Kill You...". He should do "Where the Rubber meets the Road" and "Amnesty is Granted" too.

04 Jun 2008, 20:42	#30
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	i agree he should def do songs from other albums, and as this isnt the 3 bats tour maybe he will, there are loads i would love to hear would be here all night trying to prioritise them, not too sure about bat as a starting song, it feels right at the end to me, going out with a bang and all that stuff lol

04 Jun 2008, 21:24	#34
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	i agree with all of the above , only i've never seen him pwerform left in the dark so would def love that

04 Jun 2008, 21:29	#36
geordieloaf Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart Join Date: 25.10.2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,360	I would love to hear peel out live, i just hope there are a couple of surprise's in the set list. Maybe Read em weep or surf's up.

04 Jun 2008, 21:46	#37
Renegade Angel Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: UK Posts: 551	Im sure I heard somewhere that during the last leg of the tour, meat said he's thought about doing read em and weep but decided to do Im gonna love her for both of us? I wouldn't be suprised to see a similar set list to the last tour. Im thinking a lot of duets will be involved with Patti being back so expect Paradise, Deadringer, IDAFL, I'd lie for you and Its all coming back to me now.

04 Jun 2008, 22:42	#39
wolfy35 Dangerous on a full moon Join Date: 14.03.2007 Location: Standing on the outside, Looking in on you Posts: 751	I would like to hear What about love, it is a good uptempo song and with it being a duet originally performed with Patti what better to put on the setlist for her return?

04 Jun 2008, 22:47	#41
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,891	and surfs up

04 Jun 2008, 23:13	#43
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,891	no ta... i'll stick with surfs up lol

05 Jun 2008, 00:05	#44
angelica Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.11.2007 Posts: 3,378	Love frying pan ... adore lemon and Bat well you just GOTTA have Bat out of hell!

05 Jun 2008, 11:56	#45
lorenzoduke Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.07.2006 Posts: 1,269	Suggesting Meat Loaf omits Bat is bloody ridiculous. Half of the people at any given concert came to hear it.

05 Jun 2008, 15:58	#47
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	The reason Meat has got to do classics like Bat and Paradise is for people who are going to see him for the first time. Let's not be selfish about the set list here, when was the first time you saw Meat live? First time I got to see him was 2002 (very late start to going to shows ) and how would I feel if I didn't get to see him play Bat just once? How many people went to see him for the first time, say, on the Welcome To The Neighborhood tour? Bat Out Of Hell was released what? 22 years years before WTTN? So why did he have to perform it then? I think one of the guys I know who's been going to ML shows longer than most folks is Andy, and if i'm correct he saw Meat for the first time in 84 on the Bad Attitude tour. That's a whole 7 years after Bat was released, so why should he still perform it? If Meat didn't continue to play some of his standard classics for many years, I don't think many people on this forum would have had the opportunity to hear it live. Hands up those who were at a Meat Loaf concert in 77/78? Because by the rationelle of dropping classics, you wouldn't have seen Bat performed if you hadn't been to those shows. Even if you did think Bat was getting stale (or even Paradise) could you deny fans being able to see these songs sung for themselves

05 Jun 2008, 16:13	#48
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	I don't think anyone is saying he should drop all of the standards from one show ... I know I'm certainly not. My argument is pro-rotation. To use the Springsteen analogy again, it could be argued that in the UK Dancing In The Dark and Born To Run are two of Springsteen's best known songs, before this recent tour I'd seen the Boss play live in the last 24 years, more times when he didn't perform either of those songs than when he did. Every show a sell out, every show with satisfied punters leaving at the end of it. One of the reasons they leave satisifed is (IMO) that he changes the songs he does perform so you never actually know what you're going to hear (in fact half the time the band never know what they'll be playing next, but that's another thing lol). If there was some aternation of Paradise, AFL, Took The Words, All Revved Up, Deadringer etc from show to show then the regular concert goers would be happy, and the one time concert goers would be happy because they'd seen some of the "staples". Personally I don't think Bat could or should be dropped. I don't think the other staples will be either, but it's a nice theory

05 Jun 2008, 16:25	#49
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I don't think he could, or would, ever drop BOOH, and to be honest I think some of the show would feel missing if the lights came up and we went home not having heard it. In regards Lemon and Frying Pan...ideal world for me would be to alternate between the two. I'm swayed towards Frying Pan because I've seen it live fewer times than Lemon, but I'd be sad to see Lemon go for good, especially with Patti back. When I was younger I hated the album version (I know, shoot me now huh) and it was the live version that brought me around to it so I'd like to see it stay (and as Emma said, thing of the outfits fellas!)...but hey, only a few weeks to wait and see!

05 Jun 2008, 16:27	#50
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	I agree with Andy. I'd like to see more artists adopt the Springsteen approach live much more, especially Meat considering his vast back catalogue now and as he himself said back in 2003 he thought he and Springsteen were the only true good rock performers left. In my opinion "The hair of the dog tour" was done as if the band was on automatic pilot; hardly any changes to the setlist, no crowd interaction and thus only going to one or two shows was enough I thought. I'd like to see different set lists on this tour for a change.