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Old 05 Feb 2011, 21:52   #76
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When meat wins it, which he will I bet, we will see lots of great things
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Old 05 Feb 2011, 22:17   #77
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Once more please could we keep to the topic, next time it's a
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Old 05 Feb 2011, 22:26   #78
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Seeing Meat yelling doesn't bother me in the least, and I certainly don't see it as a sign of weakness. If anything, the clip makes me even more curious to watch the show and see what Gary Busey said (or did) to get him so upset. To each their own I guess
Same here, it doesn't bother me either, as long as he's not yelling at me!!!! The show's not on here, but if it was, I would definitely be curious to watch to see what Gary said or did to get that reaction.

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Old 05 Feb 2011, 22:45   #79
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When meat wins it, which he will I bet, we will see lots of great things
For example?
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Old 05 Feb 2011, 22:54   #80
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A live rendition of the American classic on prime time US TV and free Meat Loaf backpacks for everyone probably.
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the record company may use the gained publicity and actually get behind the new album?
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Old 06 Feb 2011, 02:56   #82
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the record company may use the gained publicity and actually get behind the new album?
We can only hope :)
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Old 06 Feb 2011, 03:46   #83
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I just hope and pray that there will be some way that those of us in the UK will be able to see it. You Tube, perhaps?
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Old 06 Feb 2011, 04:51   #84
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I just hope and pray that there will be some way that those of us in the UK will be able to see it. You Tube, perhaps?
good luck. I would but I dont want to risk the threat of copyright strikes. NBC is known to be pricks about content on youtube. especially SNL material.
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Old 06 Feb 2011, 05:02   #85
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NBC has their own official channel on YouTube ... so maybe they'll post the episodes on there
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Old 06 Feb 2011, 07:27   #86
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Nbc usually posts full episodes of shows on their site orbhulu day after original airing
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Old 06 Feb 2011, 09:28   #87
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Nbc usually posts full episodes of shows on their site orbhulu day after original airing
I'm assuming though that even if they post the videos on their site after airing it's going to be the same situation as it is with the commercials that are on there and not viewable outside the US.

Going back to the thread title, I don't like seeing anyone lose their temper, particularly someone I respect and admire as much as Meat but I'm sure he had his reasons. I'd never heard of this Gary Busey before we heard he'd be on Celebrity Apprentice with Meat but by the sounds of it, he is pretty strange.

We'll find out the reasons behind it soon enough.
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I'm assuming though that even if they post the videos on their site after airing it's going to be the same situation as it is with the commercials that are on there and not viewable outside the US.

Going back to the thread title, I don't like seeing anyone lose their temper, particularly someone I respect and admire as much as Meat but I'm sure he had his reasons. I'd never heard of this Gary Busey before we heard he'd be on Celebrity Apprentice with Meat but by the sounds of it, he is pretty strange.

We'll find out the reasons behind it soon enough.
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Old 07 Feb 2011, 01:52   #89
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Gary Busey seemed kind of odd and slightly repulsive when he was young, and I think he decided he had something good goin' on there, and just really went with it :) If you have "Chasing Ghosts" (2005) pull it off the shelf and play the outtakes to see what he's like. Btw Meat's one outtake (actually it's an improv) is hilarious! (but to get it, you have to watch the movie first; which is fine, it's a good movie)

I've seen the clips from Celebrity Apprentice, and my favorite, hands down, is the one where Meat tells Gary Busey "You'll be in the hospital in about 4 minutes!" I think Meat looks fabulous in the clip. Honest anger, passionately and non-violently expressed makes for entertaining TV, and to tell you the truth I don't have any problem with it in real life, either.
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Gary Busey seemed kind of odd and slightly repulsive when he was young, and I think he decided he had something good goin' on there, and just really went with it :) If you have "Chasing Ghosts" (2005) pull it off the shelf and play the outtakes to see what he's like. Btw Meat's one outtake (actually it's an improv) is hilarious! (but to get it, you have to watch the movie first; which is fine, it's a good movie)
Right you are about Gary Busey And thanks for the information about the outtakes ... I haven't watched the DVD for ages, and really need to check it out.

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I've seen the clips from Celebrity Apprentice, and my favorite, hands down, is the one where Meat tells Gary Busey "You'll be in the hospital in about 4 minutes!" I think Meat looks fabulous in the clip. Honest anger, passionately and non-violently expressed makes for entertaining TV, and to tell you the truth I don't have any problem with it in real life, either.
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I've seen the clips from Celebrity Apprentice, and my favorite, hands down, is the one where Meat tells Gary Busey "You'll be in the hospital in about 4 minutes!" I think Meat looks fabulous in the clip. Honest anger, passionately and non-violently expressed makes for entertaining TV
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never knew Busey and Meat were in a movie together!
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There was no physical violence, and it is obvious in the clip that Meat was not looking to provoke any. Having passionately expressed his anger, he is shown moving away; he wants no physical confrontation. It is the honesty of his expression that appeals to me and, I think will to many viewers of the show. It's great that he can support a charity by using his business acumen and his talent for entertaining. And make no mistake, this is entertainment! I have no idea if Meat's part in this clip was spontaneous or if he planned it in advance; either way, this clip in particular has me looking forward to the show even more than I was before :)
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It's great that he can support a charity by using his business acumen and his talent for entertaining.
If you are famous and have "business acumen and talent for entertaining" you can support a charity without having to argue with other "celebrities" in front of TV cameras for "entertainment" puposes, can't you?

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It's verbal violence and an indication that a person is overstrained with a particuar situation, I don't consider it "entertaining" at all and I find it disappointing that many people think it is. The clip that shows Meat yelling at Busey will probably make a lot of people watch this season of Celebrity Apprentice but it has quite the opposite effect on me.

If you like that show, that's fine with me, I don't expect anybody to share my opinion but I will try to ignore the reality TV persona Meat Loaf in order to make sure that I can enjoy the work of the singer/actor Meat Loaf without prejudice. I'm looking forward to the new album.
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If you are famous and have "business acumen and talent for entertaining" you can support a charity without having to argue with other "celebrities" in front of TV cameras for "entertainment" puposes, can't you?



It's verbal violence and an indication that a person is overstrained with a particuar situation, I don't consider it "entertaining" at all and I find it disappointing that many people think it is. The clip that shows Meat yelling at Busey will probably make a lot of people watch this season of Celebrity Apprentice but it has quite the opposite effect on me.

If you like that show, that's fine with me, I don't expect anybody to share my opinion but I will try to ignore the reality TV persona Meat Loaf in order to make sure that I can enjoy the work of the singer/actor Meat Loaf without prejudice. I'm looking forward to the new album.
Is Meat Loaf the person contradictory to his singing/acting persona? He's a passionate, over-the-top guy that occassionally gets angry and screams. Listen to Bat Out Of Hell. The man screams a lot. Thinking he's gonna be a quiet, conformist guy in real life is ridiculous.

And Gary Busey is INSANE. We're lucky Meat didn't break his nose like many would.
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What does Bat Out Of Hell have to do with a situation that causes an argument between people? I love to listen to Bat, that's what I call entertainment (because singing that song actually requires talent - unlike yelling at someone). Seeing Meat (or whoever) get angry and scream because he's pissed at something / someone I consider rather annoying.

And if Busey is really "insane" he should not be admitted to such shows. But that would be less "entertaining", I guess.

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And Gary Busey is INSANE. We're lucky Meat didn't break his nose like many would.
I don't think it's quite fair to condemn Gary Busey as being insane as we have no idea what he did to provoke such an outburst, and wether it was deserved.

Likewise, I don't think anyone can blame Meat just yet for being so angry because we don't know if it was justified.

To find out if Meat's reaction was justified or not, you've got to watch the show, and how about that?The ad has done it's job


At this point in time I believe Meat has done it for (at least what he at heart believes to be) the right reasons, to do a little good in the world while raising his own profile.

The clips i've seen have certainly been explosive.
I'm not a fan of people being nasty to each other like that.There's too much of that in the world as it is without celebrities (who are role models to many, wether they like it or not) without going for each others throats and acting like kids in a playground.
That said, there is no denying it is popular and compelling viewing to the masses, especially when things are edited to show the worst and played out of context.


I think rather than argue about this show, we should at least hold off till we've watched it (or chosen not too) before we discuss the ins and outs
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To find out if Meat's reaction was justified or not, you've got to watch the show
And depending on the editing, even then you might not know!
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I think rather than argue about this show, we should at least hold off till we've watched it (or chosen not too) before we discuss the ins and outs
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Here's an article about the show:

Donald Trump returns with "The Celebrity Apprentice" and an all-new celebrity lineup of candidates: David Cassidy, LaToya Jackson, Dionne Warwick, NeNe Leakes, Meatloaf , Jose Canseco, Richard Hatch, Gary Busey, Lil Jon, Mark McGrath, Hope Dworacyk, Marlee Matlin, Lisa Rinna, Niki Taylor, and Star Jones.

This is the fourth installment of "The Celebrity Apprentice" and the eleventh season of the series.

Contestants will not be vying for a job with Donald Trump however; instead the business-savvy celebrity contestants will be working towards a greater goal -- as they raise money for their various charities throughout the season. Not only will the final winner be crowned the 'Celebrity Apprentice,' but he or she will also have the honor of delivering a $250,000 bonus check to their designated charity.

All of the celebrities will be competing in business-driven tasks around New York City, using their fame along with their proven business acumen to win challenges, while ultimately raising money and awareness for their respective causes.

Just as in the regular "Apprentice," the celebrities will be subjected to long hours, grueling mental challenges, personality clashes, and intense scrutiny -- all without the help of their regular support system of agents, managers, and personal assistants.

Certain tasks encourage the contestants to reach out to their network of celebrity contacts for assistance or donations -- making for entertaining surprise visits by some of the world's biggest stars along the way.

All of the tasks will be judged by Trump and his advisers in the boardroom. Returning back to the boardroom are Trump's children (and colleagues) Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., alongside longtime Trump Organization employee and "Apprentice" advisor George Ross.
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