All of Meat Loaf's Music Videos on DVD?

Canadian Cutie · 30 Sep 2008, 11:29

I was wondering how we would start a petition or whom to contact to request for all of Meat's music videos to be released on DVD?
I was hoping he would have done it as a bonus feature with 3 Bats Live or In Search Of Paradise but he just keeps us waiting....
It would be a bestseller that is for sure and I am sure he and his people knows that so I wonder how we can suggest it to him or his management/record company?
That would be a real treat to finally have them all on DVD!

*AndyK* · 30 Sep 2008, 11:36

It would be great, but probably unlikely, Meat has been involved with so many record companies that to produce a single DVD of all of Meat's videos would cause huge licensing issues (and the inherent costs) for whoever was to produce it. Really can't see this happening sadly.

**The Flying Mouse** · 30 Sep 2008, 15:11

Sadly, I have to agree with Andy.

If memory serves correct, there was supposed to be a Bat Trilogy box set in the works, but that was abandoned because the three record companies couldn't get together on it.

*AndyK* · 30 Sep 2008, 15:17

Sadly??

There's no loss of street cred for admitting I may be right you know

**The Flying Mouse** · 30 Sep 2008, 15:20

You know what I mean

**Monstro** · 03 Oct 2008, 12:46

Virgin have a master for a DVD release but it was dropped because the various companies holding the rights to the songs could not come to an agreement, this was 1997 0r 98 if memory serves me right.

meatloaf-unofficial · 03 Oct 2008, 14:11

oh is this the "Very Best Of" DVd or VHS thats shown on Amazon, but can't be purchased?

I saw it on there a long time ago mind you

Wario · 03 Oct 2008, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

oh is this the "Very Best Of" DVd or VHS thats shown on Amazon, but can't be purchased?

I saw it on there a long time ago mind you

That Exists. Saw it at my nearby record store for $89.99

Videos on the VHS include:

You Took The Words
Two Out Of Three
Rock & Roll Dreams
Modern Girl
Is Nothing Sacred?
Paradise By The Dashboard Light

I'd Do Anything For Love
I'd Lie For You
Not A Dry Eye
Dead Ringer For Love
Objects in the Rear View Mirror
Bat Out Of Hell

It DOES exist, but nothing too rare is on it.

Nothing real rare on them

evil nickname · 03 Oct 2008, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

That Exists. Saw it at my nearby record store for $89.99

Screenshot, or it didn't happen. Heck, I'll even accept a plain old picture.

WhenItComes2LovingU · 04 Oct 2008, 16:42

Well, maybe there's something to propose to the labels in addition to that "Best of Meat and Jim" thing. Take "Hits Out of Hell," add any of the other "Bad Attitude" videos like "Nowhere Fast" or "Surf's Up," any BBIS videos, the stuff for Bat II from "Picture Show" (including the live performance of any Bat II songs not covered on video), any WTTN, CHSIB, what little was done for III, etc.

Show them that it has an audience by having many people write them and then wait for some sort of deal to surface.

meatloaf-unofficial · 04 Oct 2008, 17:46

any online petitions??

Evil One · 04 Oct 2008, 20:28

Something similar was tried to get Bad Attitude Live reissued and that didn't work.

carole · 04 Oct 2008, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Sadly, I have to agree with Andy.

If memory serves correct, there was supposed to be a Bat Trilogy box set in the works, but that was abandoned because the three record companies couldn't get together on it.

Yeah I remember the Bat 3 Trilogy that was supposed to come out, I think it was for the 30th anniversary or something. I always wondered why it was dropped, hadn't realised that was the reason. It's a shame about the different record companies, I've always hoped for a DVD of all of his film clips as well and always wondered why there wasn't one, because as we all know, it would definitely sell.

Carole

**The Flying Mouse** · 05 Oct 2008, 00:08

I dare say it's a case of who gets how much of the pie.

Bat Out Of Hell is one of the biggest albums ever, so Sony will no doubt value that particular product quite highly.

Bat II has also had a very successful history, so no doubt Virgin would protect their investment.

Bat III, not great, but it's early days.

So how do you split royalties between the three companies?

Sony would believe that the main album is the first Bat Out Of Hell, so would naturally want more royalties than Virgin or Mercury.

Virgin would probably object to being put in second place to Sony, but would no doubt believe they should get more royalties than Mercury.

Mercury, I dare say, will want an equal third of the royalties as they are supplying a third of the content (and bear in mind, their content is the latest release which they will feel is the catalyst for the whole thing).
Not only that, but as the latest Bat, therefore the one that hasn't sold 20 million copies, it's the one that people still haven't got and still might buy.

It's not a problem that can be solved easily as long as the companies are holding something they think they can make money off.

carole · 05 Oct 2008, 06:22

Yeah, that's some very good points, then there's the record companies for CHSIB, WTTN, Dead Ringer and others trying to agree on what they'd get as well. It's a shame as it would be massive if it could be done.

Carole

Wario · 07 Oct 2008, 22:07

This aint right. i Say meat and Jim alone should have the rights to whatever song he/they record. It Ain't CIR's, it ain't Virgin's, it ain't MCA's, it Ain't Universal's.

It should be Meat's. Meat should be able to decide what gets released with his name on it.

*AndyK* · 07 Oct 2008, 22:22

There's alot that isn't right in this world ... and much of the music business falls into that category. The record company own the studio recordings and promo videos, end of story, so any complete anthology is at their mercy.

**RadioMaster** · 08 Oct 2008, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

There's alot that isn't right in this world ...

awww

WhenItComes2LovingU · 09 Oct 2008, 18:44

Actually, in the end, Sony owns most of the labels that Meat has associated with. Epic is a part of CBS, which is a part of the Sony family (BAT, DR, MATLAF); the RCA Music Group (RCA/Arista) was part of BMG, also swallowed by Sony (BA, and [in the UK] BBIS). That covers the first five albums. In addition, Sony also owns Mercury and the associated labels (which in the UK covers BAT III, and oddly enough Jim's label Ravenous).

So it's mainly a deal (at least where the U.S. is concerned) between Sony, Atlantic (which owns BBIS in the U.S.), and EMI (who owns Virgin). (In the UK, Atlantic, so far as I know, doesn't enter the picture because Arista owns BBIS there.) All three are big corporations, and therefore it's not easy to play office politics with these groups.

Evil One · 09 Oct 2008, 21:26

Let's be honest. It's just between Sony and EMI. Nobody really gives a fig about BBIS.

**RadioMaster** · 09 Oct 2008, 21:27

thats why some people leave the B and the I

Wario · 10 Oct 2008, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

thats why some people leave the B and the I

And perverts replace them with two Os and a B and tack on an E and an S at the end.

Any which way, BBIS deserves to be cared about. I mean really, Meat performed Masculine for almost 10 years straight, SOMEBODY must've cared about the album.

WhenItComes2LovingU · 10 Oct 2008, 02:32

And the album in itself (yeah, go ahead, shoot me) is not a bad album at all. Some songs could benefit from better production, but many of them don't even sound that dated compared to most Eighties product. In fact, the same could be said of much of MATLAF, which could easily sell as a country rock album today.

carole · 10 Oct 2008, 04:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

And perverts replace them with two Os and a B and tack on an E and an S at the end.

Any which way, BBIS deserves to be cared about. I mean really, Meat performed Masculine for almost 10 years straight, SOMEBODY must've cared about the album.

I love that song Masculine, I'd love to hear Meat sing that at a concert. And yeah there are people who care about the album, every time it comes up on ebay, it always sells for a pretty good price.

Carole

carole · 10 Oct 2008, 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

This aint right. i Say meat and Jim alone should have the rights to whatever song he/they record. It Ain't CIR's, it ain't Virgin's, it ain't MCA's, it Ain't Universal's.

It should be Meat's. Meat should be able to decide what gets released with his name on it.

I agree, but like a few others say, not everything is right in the world, unfortunately those are the times we are living in at the moment. I mean Meat's record company released the 3 Bats CD, against his wishes and he didn't even make any money out of it.

Carole

30 Sep 2008, 11:29	#1
Canadian Cutie Rookie Join Date: 24.08.2008 Location: Toronto,Ontario Posts: 22	All of Meat Loaf's Music Videos on DVD? I was wondering how we would start a petition or whom to contact to request for all of Meat's music videos to be released on DVD? I was hoping he would have done it as a bonus feature with 3 Bats Live or In Search Of Paradise but he just keeps us waiting.... It would be a bestseller that is for sure and I am sure he and his people knows that so I wonder how we can suggest it to him or his management/record company? That would be a real treat to finally have them all on DVD!

30 Sep 2008, 11:36	#2
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	It would be great, but probably unlikely, Meat has been involved with so many record companies that to produce a single DVD of all of Meat's videos would cause huge licensing issues (and the inherent costs) for whoever was to produce it. Really can't see this happening sadly.

30 Sep 2008, 15:11	#3
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Sadly, I have to agree with Andy. If memory serves correct, there was supposed to be a Bat Trilogy box set in the works, but that was abandoned because the three record companies couldn't get together on it.

30 Sep 2008, 15:17	#4
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Sadly?? There's no loss of street cred for admitting I may be right you know

30 Sep 2008, 15:20	#5
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	You know what I mean

03 Oct 2008, 12:46	#6
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Virgin have a master for a DVD release but it was dropped because the various companies holding the rights to the songs could not come to an agreement, this was 1997 0r 98 if memory serves me right.

03 Oct 2008, 14:11	#7
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	oh is this the "Very Best Of" DVd or VHS thats shown on Amazon, but can't be purchased? I saw it on there a long time ago mind you

04 Oct 2008, 16:42	#10
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Well, maybe there's something to propose to the labels in addition to that "Best of Meat and Jim" thing. Take "Hits Out of Hell," add any of the other "Bad Attitude" videos like "Nowhere Fast" or "Surf's Up," any BBIS videos, the stuff for Bat II from "Picture Show" (including the live performance of any Bat II songs not covered on video), any WTTN, CHSIB, what little was done for III, etc. Show them that it has an audience by having many people write them and then wait for some sort of deal to surface.

04 Oct 2008, 17:46	#11
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	any online petitions??

04 Oct 2008, 20:28	#12
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Something similar was tried to get Bad Attitude Live reissued and that didn't work.

05 Oct 2008, 00:08	#14
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I dare say it's a case of who gets how much of the pie. Bat Out Of Hell is one of the biggest albums ever, so Sony will no doubt value that particular product quite highly. Bat II has also had a very successful history, so no doubt Virgin would protect their investment. Bat III, not great, but it's early days. So how do you split royalties between the three companies? Sony would believe that the main album is the first Bat Out Of Hell, so would naturally want more royalties than Virgin or Mercury. Virgin would probably object to being put in second place to Sony, but would no doubt believe they should get more royalties than Mercury. Mercury, I dare say, will want an equal third of the royalties as they are supplying a third of the content (and bear in mind, their content is the latest release which they will feel is the catalyst for the whole thing). Not only that, but as the latest Bat, therefore the one that hasn't sold 20 million copies, it's the one that people still haven't got and still might buy. It's not a problem that can be solved easily as long as the companies are holding something they think they can make money off.

05 Oct 2008, 06:22	#15
carole Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2007 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 2,286	Yeah, that's some very good points, then there's the record companies for CHSIB, WTTN, Dead Ringer and others trying to agree on what they'd get as well. It's a shame as it would be massive if it could be done. Carole

07 Oct 2008, 22:07	#16
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	This aint right. i Say meat and Jim alone should have the rights to whatever song he/they record. It Ain't CIR's, it ain't Virgin's, it ain't MCA's, it Ain't Universal's. It should be Meat's. Meat should be able to decide what gets released with his name on it.

07 Oct 2008, 22:22	#17
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	There's alot that isn't right in this world ... and much of the music business falls into that category. The record company own the studio recordings and promo videos, end of story, so any complete anthology is at their mercy.

09 Oct 2008, 18:44	#19
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Actually, in the end, Sony owns most of the labels that Meat has associated with. Epic is a part of CBS, which is a part of the Sony family (BAT, DR, MATLAF); the RCA Music Group (RCA/Arista) was part of BMG, also swallowed by Sony (BA, and [in the UK] BBIS). That covers the first five albums. In addition, Sony also owns Mercury and the associated labels (which in the UK covers BAT III, and oddly enough Jim's label Ravenous). So it's mainly a deal (at least where the U.S. is concerned) between Sony, Atlantic (which owns BBIS in the U.S.), and EMI (who owns Virgin). (In the UK, Atlantic, so far as I know, doesn't enter the picture because Arista owns BBIS there.) All three are big corporations, and therefore it's not easy to play office politics with these groups.

09 Oct 2008, 21:26	#20
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Let's be honest. It's just between Sony and EMI. Nobody really gives a fig about BBIS.

09 Oct 2008, 21:27	#21
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	thats why some people leave the B and the I

10 Oct 2008, 02:32	#23
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	And the album in itself (yeah, go ahead, shoot me) is not a bad album at all. Some songs could benefit from better production, but many of them don't even sound that dated compared to most Eighties product. In fact, the same could be said of much of MATLAF, which could easily sell as a country rock album today.