Drums for CHSIB

DIZZY DRUMMER · 18 Mar 2004, 23:02

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

Heli · 18 Mar 2004, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

Because They were saving the best for the best (meaning John for the Live stuff)!! Heehee!!

*AndyK* · 19 Mar 2004, 00:30

Either John wasn't availabel for the studio sessions because of other work, or Kenny is a better studio drummer and was available.

Meats recorded albums have often featured musicians who don't tour with him... including the fabulously named Neleam Ymmij who's creditted with playing the African Logs on Deadringer For Love... no coincidence perhaps that the percussionist on that track was Jimmy Maelen?

LostSoul · 19 Mar 2004, 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

Meats recorded albums have often featured musicians who don't tour with him... including the fabulously named Neleam Ymmij who's creditted with playing the African Logs on Deadringer For Love... no coincidence perhaps that the percussionist on that track was Jimmy Maelen?

How interesting...

Patricia

DIZZY DRUMMER · 19 Mar 2004, 06:56

thank you AndyK - very informative

Bart · 19 Mar 2004, 12:45

Why we didn't notice that so far!

Heli · 19 Mar 2004, 17:07

!!!!

Wow!!! It's like the name, Stanley Yelnats!!! heehee!!

LostSoul · 20 Mar 2004, 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

The good question would be to ask 'Why was John chosen to play the drums live?'

Ask Deb for the answer. :P

Patricia

Gez · 13 Apr 2004, 09:17

...my head feels like soneone's playing the drums in there

Heli · 13 Apr 2004, 13:18

He's after you, Gerry!

Look Kasim's even trying his hardest to keep him back!!

Heehee

KebLou · 13 Apr 2004, 22:39

but John Miceli played on some of the CHSIB track:
Because of you
Forever Young
Well thats all, so I don't know what that means.

Gez · 16 Apr 2004, 22:03

Ahhh...........he's catching me.........ouch

Dave · 28 Apr 2004, 16:34

It all comes down to the timing of the album. I have discussed, in length, this album with various people who claim to be "in the know" and have found that there was indeed a full CD ready to go called Testify! that they were shopping around to the record lables. A couple of the songs (CHSIB and BOY come to mind) came along after the original concept of the Testify! album. Therefore, they were recorded after the original lot of songs; which, if memory serves me correctly, were recorded shortly after the Storytellers era. Some of these songs were (and again this is all from memory and not from my notes of conversations I have had) practiced and known about during the infancy of the Storytellers tour. You can see a definate change in personnell from the inital recording sessions and the later recording sessions. Who knows why Kenny and not John. That would be speculation. Just remember, ultimately CHSIB is a Meat Loaf album - whereas a Meat Loaf concert is ultimately Meat Loaf backed by The Neverland Express. The NLE is not necessarily part of the studio production (BOOH 2 is an excellent cast in point).

Hope this helps, and did not confuse even more.

ROCK ON GOOD MUSIC!!!

Dave

Gez · 09 Aug 2004, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

Now I see FA..........that Drums thing

. Not that I'll tell anyone how your learning to play

Pixie · 10 Aug 2004, 10:15

Now THAT's interesting Dave, it seems to work out time-wise and credit-wise - thanks.

Gez · 23 Aug 2004, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

Now I see FA..........that Drums thing

. Not that I'll tell anyone how your learning to play

I SAID FA'S LEARNING TO PLAY THE DRUMS

DIZZY DRUMMER · 10 Sep 2004, 22:14

YES GERRY I AM - ALSO HAVE MY OWN KIT NOW TOO

HAVE A LESSON EVERY SATAURDAY WITH A CUTE TUTOR

Deb · 29 Sep 2004, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heli

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

Because They were saving the best for the best (meaning John for the Live stuff)!! Heehee!!

I go with Heli's theory

Deb · 29 Sep 2004, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSoul

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

The good question would be to ask 'Why was John chosen to play the drums live?'

Ask Deb for the answer. :P

Patricia

Cause he moons better than kenny

Deb

Gez · 30 Sep 2004, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

YES GERRY I AM - ALSO HAVE MY OWN KIT NOW TOO

HAVE A LESSON EVERY SATAURDAY WITH A CUTE TUTOR

Does that mean you can get your KIT OUT at any time

DIZZY DRUMMER · 30 Sep 2004, 13:47

Gerry wrote:

Quote:

Does that mean you can get your KIT OUT at any time

Well Gerry - that's for me to know & you to find out

Gez · 04 Nov 2004, 21:16

I think you should have a Rockers name Fa, now you are progressing with the drums!!

What about Shaaza...any more idea's people

LostSoul · 04 Nov 2004, 23:32

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Originally Posted by sultonfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSoul

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALLEN ANGEL1000

Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

The good question would be to ask 'Why was John chosen to play the drums live?'

Ask Deb for the answer. :P

Patricia

Cause he moons better than kenny

Deb

Bingo!

Pat

DIZZY DRUMMER · 07 Nov 2004, 19:14

Gerry wrote:

Quote:

What about Shaaza...any more idea's people

Gerry

You know I hate the name SHAAZA

Gez · 17 Nov 2004, 23:16

Oops

.....it's good to know that we have a good response though

.
Don't worry though, have a wee drinky

18 Mar 2004, 23:02	#1
DIZZY DRUMMER Always Ready For A Bang Join Date: 30.11.2003 Location: Left In The Dark .......... AGAIN Posts: 6,389	Drums for CHSIB Does anyone know why Kenny Aronoff played the drums on most of the CHSIB CD and not John Miceli ???

19 Mar 2004, 00:30	#3
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Either John wasn't availabel for the studio sessions because of other work, or Kenny is a better studio drummer and was available. Meats recorded albums have often featured musicians who don't tour with him... including the fabulously named Neleam Ymmij who's creditted with playing the African Logs on Deadringer For Love... no coincidence perhaps that the percussionist on that track was Jimmy Maelen?

19 Mar 2004, 06:56	#5
DIZZY DRUMMER Always Ready For A Bang Join Date: 30.11.2003 Location: Left In The Dark .......... AGAIN Posts: 6,389	thank you AndyK - very informative

19 Mar 2004, 12:45	#6
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Why we didn't notice that so far!

19 Mar 2004, 17:07	#7
Heli Daddy's little internet junkie Join Date: 29.01.2004 Location: Grimsby Posts: 4,596	!!!! Wow!!! It's like the name, Stanley Yelnats!!! heehee!!

13 Apr 2004, 09:17	#9
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	...my head feels like soneone's playing the drums in there

13 Apr 2004, 13:18	#10
Heli Daddy's little internet junkie Join Date: 29.01.2004 Location: Grimsby Posts: 4,596	He's after you, Gerry! Look Kasim's even trying his hardest to keep him back!! Heehee

13 Apr 2004, 22:39	#11
KebLou Mega Loafer Join Date: 02.03.2004 Location: The Arena of the Unwell Posts: 3,177	but John Miceli played on some of the CHSIB track: Because of you Forever Young Well thats all, so I don't know what that means.

16 Apr 2004, 22:03	#12
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	Ahhh...........he's catching me.........ouch

28 Apr 2004, 16:34	#13
Dave Mega Loafer Join Date: 12.04.2002 Location: Southern Ohio - United States of America Posts: 2,564	It all comes down to the timing of the album. I have discussed, in length, this album with various people who claim to be "in the know" and have found that there was indeed a full CD ready to go called Testify! that they were shopping around to the record lables. A couple of the songs (CHSIB and BOY come to mind) came along after the original concept of the Testify! album. Therefore, they were recorded after the original lot of songs; which, if memory serves me correctly, were recorded shortly after the Storytellers era. Some of these songs were (and again this is all from memory and not from my notes of conversations I have had) practiced and known about during the infancy of the Storytellers tour. You can see a definate change in personnell from the inital recording sessions and the later recording sessions. Who knows why Kenny and not John. That would be speculation. Just remember, ultimately CHSIB is a Meat Loaf album - whereas a Meat Loaf concert is ultimately Meat Loaf backed by The Neverland Express. The NLE is not necessarily part of the studio production (BOOH 2 is an excellent cast in point). Hope this helps, and did not confuse even more. ROCK ON GOOD MUSIC!!! Dave

10 Aug 2004, 10:15	#15
Pixie The Mad Scientist Join Date: 22.03.2004 Location: In a land where I don't have to stay Posts: 1,306	Now THAT's interesting Dave, it seems to work out time-wise and credit-wise - thanks.

10 Sep 2004, 22:14	#17
DIZZY DRUMMER Always Ready For A Bang Join Date: 30.11.2003 Location: Left In The Dark .......... AGAIN Posts: 6,389	YES GERRY I AM - ALSO HAVE MY OWN KIT NOW TOO HAVE A LESSON EVERY SATAURDAY WITH A CUTE TUTOR

04 Nov 2004, 21:16	#22
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	I think you should have a Rockers name Fa, now you are progressing with the drums!! What about Shaaza...any more idea's people

17 Nov 2004, 23:16	#25
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	Oops .....it's good to know that we have a good response though . Don't worry though, have a wee drinky