Man of Steel - Is history repeating?

original sin · 28 Oct 2003, 22:21

For those of you who remember the problems with the propmotion of CHSIB.
I'm wondering what promotion we can expect for the new single MOS.

I have just found on Ebay a copy of the DJ promo for MOS, and seem to recall this happening with the DJ promo of CHSIB.

I hope some stations have the decency to actually play it and get it on air

D'ja vouz?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=1057

One rather annoyed Sin

Bart · 29 Oct 2003, 15:53

i think it is not going to be a hit. Sorry for Meat and shame on the bloody record company.

dukesofhazard · 29 Oct 2003, 20:25

I really hope that it gets some airplay too, it really deserves to do well, especially after the disastrous CHSIB single release. but alas I fear the worst, especially if no video is being done as it will not even get played on the digital satelite/cable music channels (though CHSIB was only played on 1 anyway!)

When do you reckon they'll start playing it (if they do)? I'll be sure to keep my ears open anyway.

Kev · 30 Oct 2003, 17:01

Like I keep saying... unless meat tells people to buy it when he's touring... it will totally flop. You simple CANNOT release a single without promotion, and no Music Video... well :'(

dukesofhazard · 30 Oct 2003, 22:08

At least we ("we" being the people who read the forum) know when it is released. I didn't have a clue when CHSIB single was out, I just happened to come across it one day in virgin (the only place that was selling it in Cardiff at the time!) Don't know if the release of CHSIB single was mentioned on here though as I didn't have a PC at the time.

Yep, some promotion would help, airplay, Meat plugging it at the concerts and some shops actually stocking it would also be an improvement!

If ALL the people at ALL the UK concerts bought it, it would probably do well.

Sapphire Lady · 30 Oct 2003, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukesofhazard

If ALL the people at ALL the UK concerts bought it, it would probably do well.

Unfortunately I don't think they will. Alot of people will already have the album and those who don't will probably want to buy the album after the concert rather than the single.

Unless you're a die hard Meat fan there's not really alot of point in having the album and the single. Yes, the single will be an edited version and will maybe have bonus tracks, but only the likes of us on this forum are going to be interested in buying both.

Fallen Angel · 31 Oct 2003, 20:02

Saphire lady your rite!!!

Kev · 01 Nov 2003, 14:43

Meat just needed to tell everyone to buy it when he's doing the shows and it has a chance... other than that, it might not even chart

Gez · 01 Nov 2003, 17:35

Is anyone surprised that Did I say That is not his next single??

A great song and I could be wrong , but did it chart in Germany

??

Kev · 01 Nov 2003, 18:19

made number 18 i think

Gez · 01 Nov 2003, 18:59

Only No18. Thats a great song. One of the best on the CD.
Well I think so anyway!!

Vickip · 01 Nov 2003, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry says astalavista

Only No18. Thats a great song. One of the best on the CD.
Well I think so anyway!!

I absolutely agree ... it's definitely one of the best :)
Vicki

DazLoaf01 · 02 Nov 2003, 11:00

According to this site, MOS will be released on Nov 17th! That's not much time for promotion! Hopefully this is just an early list, which has yet to be updated:

http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml

Debbi V · 02 Nov 2003, 13:49

All I can say is that Meat has to do something about the record companies that are releasing the album/singles in Europe and the States!!

Here in the US, Sanctuary Records Released CHSIB, but don't even have Meat listed as an artist on their website!!

I'm curious though, and please bear with me for being dumb, but who actually decides which record company will release an album/single? I've heard that the delay in releasing CHSIB here was due to a change in record companies.

Debbi V

Bigmomma · 02 Nov 2003, 14:39

yes i agree i to was suprised that Did i say that was not going
to be the next single as it appears to be such a strong song,
but man of steel is a really nice song to, but i think they should of
gone with the other, but there you go, this is the way of things
some times i suppose when you are faced with so many good songs
it is awkward to choose.
kezzina

original sin · 02 Nov 2003, 16:28

Ok - all points taken but I didn't start this thread to debate the merits or MOS against any other song............
I am soooo peed off that those who i assume get paid for organising the promotion of the releases appear to do very little for their money. And to add insult to injury we all know that the best way to get any recording brought by Jo Public is to get it out there and get it heard.................. ....
so the radio stations are sent free of charge, i assume, gratis a copy of the single to get it played and heard over the airways and then what happens...................the f***ing things end up on ebay................
no airplay = limited sales = another frace = Sin really really mad with all the bloody promoters

Vickip · 02 Nov 2003, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by original sin

Ok - all points taken but I didn't start this thread to debate the merits or MOS against any other song............
I am soooo peed off that those who i assume get paid for organising the promotion of the releases appear to do very little for their money. And to add insult to injury we all know that the best way to get any recording brought by Jo Public is to get it out there and get it heard.................. ....
so the radio stations are sent free of charge, i assume, gratis a copy of the single to get it played and heard over the airways and then what happens...................the f***ing things end up on ebay................
no airplay = limited sales = another frace = Sin really really mad with all the bl**dy promoters

I absolutely agree with you Sin !!!
Vicki

Vickip · 02 Nov 2003, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbi V

All I can say is that Meat has to do something about the record companies that are releasing the album/singles in Europe and the States!!

Here in the US, Sanctuary Records Released CHSIB, but don't even have Meat listed as an artist on their website!!

I'm curious though, and please bear with me for being dumb, but who actually decides which record company will release an album/single? I've heard that the delay in releasing CHSIB here was due to a change in record companies.

Debbi V

I know what you mean Debbi ... it's absolutely ridiculous

You're right ... from what I understand, they were originally supposed to release in the US sometime during the summer, and Meat would have
had more time to promote it before starting the first leg of the US tour.

But then he changed record companies and signed with Sanctuary, which didn't release the album until the end of September. The bad timing was really a shame ...... maybe they'll re-release it when he comes back to the US again next year ??

Vicki

Sapphire Lady · 02 Nov 2003, 20:12

I was in HMV today and looked at their "charts" list which had details of forthcoming releases at the bottom.

The Darkness' new single was listed with a release date of 15 December. No mention of Man of Steel which is being released before that. Is history repeating itself? Hmmmm.....

original sin · 02 Nov 2003, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphire Lady

I was in HMV today and looked at their "charts" list which had details of forthcoming releases at the bottom.
The Darkness' new single was listed with a release date of 15 December. No mention of Man of Steel which is being released before that. Is history repeating itself? Hmmmm.....

Well that just about puts the icing on my cake!!!
When waiting for the release of CHSIB I had the same thing kept going into HMV............not listed.................I hate to do a Victor Meldrew impression but..................... I don't believe IT!!!
However unfortunately I do................typical

Sapphire Lady · 03 Nov 2003, 14:41

No sign of it on the HMV or Amazon websites either.

Kev · 04 Nov 2003, 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphire Lady

No sign of it on the HMV or Amazon websites either.

you almost sound shocked...

Sapphire Lady · 04 Nov 2003, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by icwuke

you almost sound shocked...

Shocked, no. Surprised, no.

Just disappointed and dismayed at the lack (or should that be complete absence?) of promotion only 3 weeks before the proposed release date.

I had hoped that lessons would have been learned from the CHSIB fiasco. But I guess time will tell.

Cpl Mickey · 05 Nov 2003, 00:40

Sapphire Lady: You took the words right out of my mouth

dottie · 05 Nov 2003, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpl Mickey

Sapphire Lady: You took the words right out of my mouth

and mine and probably everyone on this forum, who well remembers the last 'promotion' if you can call it that

28 Oct 2003, 22:21	#1
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Man of Steel - Is history repeating? For those of you who remember the problems with the propmotion of CHSIB. I'm wondering what promotion we can expect for the new single MOS. I have just found on Ebay a copy of the DJ promo for MOS, and seem to recall this happening with the DJ promo of CHSIB. I hope some stations have the decency to actually play it and get it on air D'ja vouz? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=1057 One rather annoyed Sin

29 Oct 2003, 15:53	#2
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	i think it is not going to be a hit. Sorry for Meat and shame on the bloody record company.

29 Oct 2003, 20:25	#3
dukesofhazard Super Loafer Join Date: 24.09.2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK Posts: 478	I really hope that it gets some airplay too, it really deserves to do well, especially after the disastrous CHSIB single release. but alas I fear the worst, especially if no video is being done as it will not even get played on the digital satelite/cable music channels (though CHSIB was only played on 1 anyway!) When do you reckon they'll start playing it (if they do)? I'll be sure to keep my ears open anyway.

30 Oct 2003, 17:01	#4
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	Like I keep saying... unless meat tells people to buy it when he's touring... it will totally flop. You simple CANNOT release a single without promotion, and no Music Video... well :'(

30 Oct 2003, 22:08	#5
dukesofhazard Super Loafer Join Date: 24.09.2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK Posts: 478	At least we ("we" being the people who read the forum) know when it is released. I didn't have a clue when CHSIB single was out, I just happened to come across it one day in virgin (the only place that was selling it in Cardiff at the time!) Don't know if the release of CHSIB single was mentioned on here though as I didn't have a PC at the time. Yep, some promotion would help, airplay, Meat plugging it at the concerts and some shops actually stocking it would also be an improvement! If ALL the people at ALL the UK concerts bought it, it would probably do well.

31 Oct 2003, 20:02	#7
Fallen Angel Youth Gone Wild Join Date: 19.09.2003 Location: See the mad one over there.... Posts: 693	Saphire lady your rite!!!

01 Nov 2003, 14:43	#8
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	Meat just needed to tell everyone to buy it when he's doing the shows and it has a chance... other than that, it might not even chart

01 Nov 2003, 17:35	#9
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	Is anyone surprised that Did I say That is not his next single?? A great song and I could be wrong , but did it chart in Germany ??

01 Nov 2003, 18:19	#10
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	made number 18 i think

01 Nov 2003, 18:59	#11
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	Only No18. Thats a great song. One of the best on the CD. Well I think so anyway!!

02 Nov 2003, 11:00	#13
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	According to this site, MOS will be released on Nov 17th! That's not much time for promotion! Hopefully this is just an early list, which has yet to be updated: http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml

02 Nov 2003, 13:49	#14
Debbi V Mega Loafer Join Date: 31.10.2003 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 1,364	All I can say is that Meat has to do something about the record companies that are releasing the album/singles in Europe and the States!! Here in the US, Sanctuary Records Released CHSIB, but don't even have Meat listed as an artist on their website!! I'm curious though, and please bear with me for being dumb, but who actually decides which record company will release an album/single? I've heard that the delay in releasing CHSIB here was due to a change in record companies. Debbi V

02 Nov 2003, 14:39	#15
Bigmomma Super Loafer Join Date: 07.07.2003 Location: Somewhere in time in my mind......... Posts: 655	yes i agree i to was suprised that Did i say that was not going to be the next single as it appears to be such a strong song, but man of steel is a really nice song to, but i think they should of gone with the other, but there you go, this is the way of things some times i suppose when you are faced with so many good songs it is awkward to choose. kezzina

02 Nov 2003, 16:28	#16
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	Ok - all points taken but I didn't start this thread to debate the merits or MOS against any other song............ I am soooo peed off that those who i assume get paid for organising the promotion of the releases appear to do very little for their money. And to add insult to injury we all know that the best way to get any recording brought by Jo Public is to get it out there and get it heard.................. .... so the radio stations are sent free of charge, i assume, gratis a copy of the single to get it played and heard over the airways and then what happens...................the f***ing things end up on ebay................ no airplay = limited sales = another frace = Sin really really mad with all the bloody promoters

02 Nov 2003, 20:12	#19
Sapphire Lady Mega Loafer Join Date: 21.04.2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,213	I was in HMV today and looked at their "charts" list which had details of forthcoming releases at the bottom. The Darkness' new single was listed with a release date of 15 December. No mention of Man of Steel which is being released before that. Is history repeating itself? Hmmmm.....

03 Nov 2003, 14:41	#21
Sapphire Lady Mega Loafer Join Date: 21.04.2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,213	No sign of it on the HMV or Amazon websites either.

05 Nov 2003, 00:40	#24
Cpl Mickey Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.09.2003 Location: Maidstone. England Posts: 1,378	Sapphire Lady: You took the words right out of my mouth