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Old 05 Jun 2013, 11:32   #56
Julie in the rv mirror
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Originally Posted by Wario View Post
exactly. If you have a gorilla youd wanna poach it then set it free
Wario, I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are saying here!

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Originally Posted by Wario View Post
Reselling an autograph at a higher price point is unethical, but it doesn't effect someone getting a ticket they deserve more. THeres no real negative impact reselling a legit signature for a higher price.
I think you're kind of contradicting yourself here. I actually don't think it's unethical; I look at it like any other collectible. If you had an antique vase or something that you bought and sold for a higher price, there is nothing at all wrong with it. Autographs are considered collectibles by many people, and as such, are "worth" whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Now, that's not to say I approve of the kind of profiteering that Mouse gave in his example, where Meat signed a bunch of items out of the goodness of his heart. (Now I guess I'm contradicting myself somewhat )

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Originally Posted by CarylB
But arguing that ticket touting is worse or better than profiteering from signed items is a bit of an imponderable. Trying to quantify the impact of this or that form is not simple .. eg who's to say which potential loss is worse to an individual .. the ability to afford a concert seat closer to the stage, or an autographed photo? .. or whether a celebrity might be so irritated by profiteering from sales of something they have habitually either given and/or sold at a low and reasonable price, that they decide simply not to give or sell any in future?
The big problem I have with ticket resellers is the fact that they often resort to unfair means, for example using bots to get tickets that fans then have no chance of getting. It's not a level playing field.

There was an infamous young man who used to follow Bruce around and pester him for autographs, which he often got (reportedly by resorting to some creative means and/or greatly annoying other fans to do so). At first I chalked it up to him just being a zealous young fan, but changed my opinion when his methods and the fact that he was selling and trading those autographs for concert tickets (and then cheating to get into the pit) came out. I wondered what Bruce might have thought if he ever heard what this kid was doing. I have seen cases where he blatantly refused to sign for obvious "professional" dealers, though he will almost always sign for fans.

They used to post copies of Bruce's handwritten setlists on his website, but that stopped, I suspect because someone had been printing them out and selling them on eBay. (The selling I know was true, not sure that is the reason they stopped getting posted)

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Originally Posted by melon View Post
I tell ya what else is crap, taking crappy photos during the show, (with watermarks of the date still on them) and selling those on eBay! What tha?
Do people actually do that? I can't imagine anyone would buy them.
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