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ashkent7 · 20 Jul 2016, 14:14

I’ve been listening to Meat’s songs for a long time, and once I was old enough to notice the difference in his work with Jim compared to other work, I then went on to hunt down all of Jim’s other projects.

It is not hard to see the connections in Jim’s songs even without really trying – the fact that “I remember every little thing as if happened only yesterday” appears in the opening lines of Paradise and Love and Death and an American Guitar (Wasted Youth), the Godspeed section from Bad For Good/Graveyard Shift/Nowhere Fast etc, the guitar riff from Good Girls Go To Heaven reused in Seize The Night, the opening of Surfs Up, which appears as the opening of Angels Arise. – but how many times have you noticed something so small you don’t notice it at first.

There are so many connections to find, I almost feel like it’s the musical version of collecting Pokemon that everyone seems so involved in again. The Vaults OF Heaven was used in the Whistle Down the Wind song, but also in the demo song sung by Rory Dodd, which in turn has the melody from For Sarah from Tanz and DOTV, which was recycled from one of Jim’s very early productions.

One that I noticed the other day was a small guitar riff in Frying Pan (it wasn't in Jim's version but is in Meat's and especially noticeable in live versions) that comes in around the bridge behind the line “Follow the sound of my heartbeat now”. It’s very short, but if you isolate it and with a variance of speed, a virtually identical little licks appear in Bat (“When the metal is hot and the engine is hungry”), I’m pretty certain it’s at the start of the instrumental before the last verse of More Than You Deserve…

I actually started referencing the links between Jim’s song’s quite a while ago when I was bored and had nothing but spare time and I kind of feel like going back to it with the arrival of Braver and the Bat Musical.
Has anyone else had a moment listening to a song then suddenly think “hang on, that moment is identical to that one” with something that is quite subtle? Or maybe just one that is blatantly there that you somehow missed for a long time?

20 Jul 2016, 14:14	#1
ashkent7 Super Loafer Join Date: 02.12.2010 Location: Durham,UK Posts: 338	The Steinman Connections I’ve been listening to Meat’s songs for a long time, and once I was old enough to notice the difference in his work with Jim compared to other work, I then went on to hunt down all of Jim’s other projects. It is not hard to see the connections in Jim’s songs even without really trying – the fact that “I remember every little thing as if happened only yesterday” appears in the opening lines of Paradise and Love and Death and an American Guitar (Wasted Youth), the Godspeed section from Bad For Good/Graveyard Shift/Nowhere Fast etc, the guitar riff from Good Girls Go To Heaven reused in Seize The Night, the opening of Surfs Up, which appears as the opening of Angels Arise. – but how many times have you noticed something so small you don’t notice it at first. There are so many connections to find, I almost feel like it’s the musical version of collecting Pokemon that everyone seems so involved in again. The Vaults OF Heaven was used in the Whistle Down the Wind song, but also in the demo song sung by Rory Dodd, which in turn has the melody from For Sarah from Tanz and DOTV, which was recycled from one of Jim’s very early productions. One that I noticed the other day was a small guitar riff in Frying Pan (it wasn't in Jim's version but is in Meat's and especially noticeable in live versions) that comes in around the bridge behind the line “Follow the sound of my heartbeat now”. It’s very short, but if you isolate it and with a variance of speed, a virtually identical little licks appear in Bat (“When the metal is hot and the engine is hungry”), I’m pretty certain it’s at the start of the instrumental before the last verse of More Than You Deserve… I actually started referencing the links between Jim’s song’s quite a while ago when I was bored and had nothing but spare time and I kind of feel like going back to it with the arrival of Braver and the Bat Musical. Has anyone else had a moment listening to a song then suddenly think “hang on, that moment is identical to that one” with something that is quite subtle? Or maybe just one that is blatantly there that you somehow missed for a long time?