I think that we need to put this interview in context. Both performers were exhausted after a gruelling 2/3 year tour to promote Bat. Jim had gone off the road to write the next record and when it was delivered Meat wasn't wiling or able to sing the album. Despite the fact that he has since performed most of the songs on the record, at the time he thought that it was a Bat copy and he didn't like it. There was much resentment to this, all the money an effort gone into making the record was wasted AND Jim was contracted to write Meat's follow up, so I can understand why at the time Jim was like 'I made you so I'll break you'. Both men have equal call to ownership of the songs. Like Elvis, Meat sells a song. When he sings a song, he owns it, no matter who writes it. Jim needs a singer who can own a song and that is why Meat is the perfect singer for him. Meat in turn needs songs and character who he can embody so Jim is perfect for him. It took 10 years to heal the wounds of BFG. But when the dust settled we got Bat II. If we hadn't had that anger, those fights and this interview, we might never had Anything For Love, Objects or Life is a Lemon. Even at approaching 70, these two guys need their heads knocking together