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Meat .... made the effort to specifically visit this site to pour his scorn, venom, insults and name-calling upon people here
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That's your assumption Michael. You're entitled to make one, but my take would be very different, as I believe I've explained early on, and won't repeat it again because of what that would provoke. So I disagree.
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I would have thought that Meat came here specifically to make that post was beyond debate. Perhaps I misunderstand what you're getting at there?
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Originally Posted by CarylB
I'd agree this seemed to be the case, over something he regretted imo.
I can't agree with your final comments. I judge a man on all I know rather than one incident.
Caryl
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I judge a man on his ability to hold his hands up and accept responsibility for his actions rather than trying to gloss over them with blatant B.S. that only causes more offense. That, as the saying goes, is adding insult to injury.
When I think of the amount of times I and many others here have stood up for Meat, rallied around him (the lambasting he took in Australia strikes me as a relevant and recent example) and been as supportive as anyone could expect a fanbase to be....to my mind, he's treating us the way the Australian press treat him. Belligerent, abusive, unrepentant and full of unwarranted bile and nastiness. Refusing to see the good and acting with a petty vendetta.
People here have had their criticisms of Meat - perhaps to excess at times, but its only because music, singing etc. is subjective and everyone has their own idea of Meat's strengths and weaknesses as a performer, and only consider these things to such a degree because they maybe only at one time or another, or perhaps always, have loved his work.
What I have never seen here is anyone be as vicious or deliberately hurtful to Meat or any other member as he was in this thread. If he doesn't feel sufficient remorse to take 5 minutes to apologise, he's not the guy I've thought he was all these years. Admittedly, he never asked to be anyone's hero, and I've learnt a lesson about having one.