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Old 10 Nov 2012, 12:36   #406
Sarge
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R., this is your forum, so you can do with it whatever you want. You make the rules. Anyway, the fact you or one of the mods deleted my post in which I said this (among other things) amazes me:

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Do you know that his post [on Facebook] referred to anything he said on MLUKFC? [...] What I see at the moment is someone who tries to conciliatory, progressive and self-critical on Facebook. That's great, there aren't many people who would do something like that, kudos to him. [...] Anyway, it would be great if he clarified what exactly his current attitude to the fan club is. It would be fantastic and a nice touch if he had a message for us that is equally positive and uniting as the one he posted on Facebook.
I also said that he doesn't have to do that unless he wants to. If it's wrong to express one's hope that the stupid, tiresome, repetitive fighting stops and things go back to "normal", then I'm wrong, I guess. I have the feeling that this will be handled like similar events before, thus things like this will happen again and again and again... This used to be a place for fans to meet, exchange ideas and have fun. It has turned into Meat's punching ball.

I give up. This is gonna be my last post - which will probably be deleted, too. I hope it won't but I guess my hope is in vain.

Maybe Meat (and some others) will regard this as a "success" - another "enemy" gone.

Well, if I was an "enemy", I would have left three years ago and never come back. I wouldn't have wasted time with participating in this discussion. I just wouldn't care about Meat Loaf and this forum. I would have gone away that day in 2009 when Meat called us "saboteurs" in a video on YouTube and started an exhausting war that lasted several days. Since then I've seen him call his own fans names on that many occasions that I've given up on counting them. Some ugly things happened behind the scenes, too. I've been patient and tolerant and always tried to be forgiving anyway - because Meat has also shown that he has a huge heart.

He invited forum members to a promo event at which they could listen to Hang Cool Teddy Bear. He recently posted an awesome, very cordial message regarding two long-time fans' wedding. How many artists would ever do that for their fans? Not many, I guess. But the next time I saw him say something on this forum, he was spitting venom in a way that even put some of his most loyal followers off. How can someone who is that kind be that nasty the next moment?

I don't think that Meat Loaf is a bad person, but I can't take his erratic behavior and rudeness anymore. Instead of adding something unique and informative to this place, his presence now kills interesting discussions and disrupts the community. I don't want to spend my rare spare time with the same daft arguments over and over again and I'm tired of seeing him come to this place not to communicate with us but to control what we say, insult us and tell us how much he dislikes us. As I said a couple of posts back, I don't have an issue with him getting upset but I have an issue with the way in which he gets upset. I don't like many things he said, yet I would never call him "jerk", "evil", tell him to "~~~~ himself" or "go to hell".

So this is time for me to say goodbye once and for all. I returned twice, there won't be third time. I'd like to thank the members of this forum (incl. admins and mods) for the interesting stuff I read on this board and for the fun it had to offer before every other thread descended to mud-wrestling.

Thank you, Meat. You provided brilliant entertainment, I made some great friends. I'll keep fond memories of the concerts I went to, especially Leipzig 1996 and Hamburg 2008. Will I buy another CD or go to another show - no. I'm grateful for the good times, I'll try to forget about the rather disappointing, saddening experiences of the last few years.

Farewell MLUKFC, farewell Meat. I wish you all the best.
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