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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
In any social situation - and this forum is a social situation - there will be debate about things. The person who loses their temper, their cool, and resorts to shouting, swearing and insults owes the people at that gathering an apology.
That anyone would defend this behaviour is beyond me. I've admired Meat for years to the point that friends have pulled me up on constantly extolling his virtues - but where decent manners are concerned I wouldn't waver whether it was Meat Loaf, John Lennon, Jesus Christ or Mother Hubbard who was shitting at the dinner table.
As for this crap about how he was basically doing an experiment on us all? Well, I'm not a rat and this isn't a laboratory.
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Okay - tha last one was the penultimate post on this matter.
In the social situation you described - the person who resorts to that kind of behaviour usually looses the argument. I don't think Meat was in the right here, everyone would have welcomed his measured thoughts on the issues that he aparrently took offence to.
I don't think I'm necessarily defending Meat, Just saying that the level of recrimination is getting daft now, and the slightly bipolar nature of his artistic output is what attracted is here in the first-place after all. What's the point in getting offended at an internet post anyway? Meat is still Meat, you are still you. we all still think what we thought before about the issues in hand.
I'm sure Meat is a good guy. Perhaps difficult to live with sometimes but a good guy. I'm also sure those of us who discussed the issues which drew the reaction did so in an honest and legitimate manner. It is a fundamental right to disagree and I don't think any party here would argue with that. The recriminations are just going on too long, becoming self-indulgent and it is getting petty now.
one last thought - this is Meat Loaf. An artist, musician, actor, performer, lover, fighter, businessman, liberal, independent, republican, conservative, commune-living-hippy, charlie manson hitchiker, friend of Steinman (who's sexuality and political affiliations are freely discussed and remain searchable on another forum), a soft-ball coach, charity worker, philanthropist, employer, employee, registered trade mark, husband, father and many other things not in the public domain.
If I had been trying to hold that identity together in the public eye for the last 40 years then I'm sure i'd have some conflicts - cut the guy some slack and ask yourself the question: can you say you would never spout off on a web forum if you saw something you rightly or wrongly percieved as threatening or ill informed?
That's all.