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Old 06 Nov 2012, 09:56   #247
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I didn't read the "voice thread." I saw it start, and thought "ohhhh jeez." So I can't go down through and say, "Ok this post would hurt MY feelings, if it were about me," "This one would irritate me," or "THIS one would make me cry." I can imagine how it might feel, however, to have a group of people quite dispassionately discussing a part of me, a vital part of me with which I express myself artistically.
None of the posts in the thread warranted the response it got. Not. One. The absolute WORST statement made in that thread was "Meat's current singing style does not appeal to me." That was the exact level of consideration it was delivered with, too. There was "dispassionate discussion." Most of it wasn't even centered around modern Meat. At the time it was closed, it was praising Welcome to the Neighborhood era Meat.

For those of you who never got around to reading that thread, it wasn't "let's put his voice under a microscope and tear it to shreds!" It was a discussion about the different periods of Meat's career and how his voice differed between them. Like how it became more raw starting around the early 2000s. There was no one criticising anything. It was just...discussion. Normally what you do on a DISCUSSION BOARD.

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Discussing what you love most about how Meat expresses himself vocally is one thing, but criticising his voice itself is quite another.
Except this didn't happen.

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Meat is a nice guy; many of you know that. He doesn't become angry without reason..instead of taking offense where none was intended...
Did you not read the first few posts of this thread? We were told we were evil, should go to hell, not buy any of his future work or attend any concerts. Oh, and we would be thrown out of the roof if we ever went to a Meet and Greet.

Good thing he's not planning to tour Australia again

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The man himself is here, so this forum is as much about him as it is about his work.
This is fair enough. Thing is, I respect this. So do most, if not all, other people here. That doesn't change the fact that 97% of us are scum though, apparently.

I get the impression that Meat simply does not like people talking about him full stop, ignoring whether it is positive or negative. And that's also fair enough. What's NOT fair enough is that if you know you don't like that (and you're going to get it, when you have a career as prolific as Meat's) is going out of your way to actively find discussion and attack these people for being "enemies" (I'm sorry, but what the ~~~~), regardless of whether or not it was mean or not.

This is a fan forum. Everyone here is a fan of Meat Loaf. To say otherwise it's just stupid. Meat, if don't like people talking about Meat Loaf, then don't go out of your way read it and ruin the experience for everyone.

Sorry for singling you out, Kathy I've seen a few people going "Oh...I didn't read the thread, but the reaction must be justified anyway!" No, no it is not justified, and neither is you jumping to conclusions without reading the thread in question. I can understand being offended from the reaction to the politics thing. The abuse from that was plain unfair. This, though. Not so much

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To be honest, whoever was offended by the 97% sentence (which was a fake number anyway as explained) probably deserves to be in it, because if you know you're a good fan, and a respectful person who shows consideration for Meats feelings when posting, then your instant reaction is, well he doesn't mean me so i'm not offended. That was my reaction and that's why I have no problem with Meat standing up for himself.
There is not. One. Single. Poster. On. This. Site. Not ONE that I can think of off the top of my head that deserves to be a part of this so called 97%. I think it's ridiculous to propose this at all when EVERYONE here is a fan, otherwise they wouldn't be here at all. Everyone is respectful of Meat here. They have to be, otherwise they'd never hear the end of it

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