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Old 27 Jun 2012, 12:33   #194
CarylB
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Originally Posted by Tri.somethin View Post
This thread is still going on? O.o
Indeed .. amazing. I haven't posted since Rainer gave his decision which seemed to me to provide an end to the discussion. His forum, his time and effort, his right to decide. But I did like and agree with Andrew's post which I've re-quoted below, so given all the furore that has been going on, I think I will now I'm quoting it again because it deserves to be read again .. imo

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Originally Posted by AndrewG View Post
On the note of coming away from a Meat Loaf show and not being disappointed. Well I have been left disappointed once, but 1 out of 20 or so really ain't that bad at all I think. When he's on the money, he's on the money. Indeed I guess a YouTube vid cannot possibly contain the atmosphere and excitement of being there. Special shows like RAH spring to mind regarding that. Perhaps a pro shot of that would have been able to capture some of the aura, I'm not sure. It's not all just about the voice. The connection between the song, the band, the audience and you as a person is something that cannot all be captured on a camera.
For people not being able to attend the gig I still think a YouTube vid is better than nothing, but perhaps it is easy for me to appreciate what is really happening when I watch a vid as I kind of subconsciously can understand the quality difference that is there. That is not just for Meat Loaf, but bootleg vids/audios from all artists. My ears can kind of fill the gaps if you get what I mean (lack of bass, richness and power usually).
I like and agree fully with this Andrew, and I think this is the nub of what some have been trying to say .. certainly it is for me. Not "waffle" at all but rather a very good explanation of why these clips can be misleading, and why in my view Meat doesn't appreciate criticism (even if it is perhaps meant to be helpful) being based on them.

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Originally Posted by stretch37 View Post
.. this argument ... It shouldn't be airing in this thread
Agreed

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In case you hadn't noticed Caryl specifically mentioned my name and quoted my post. She was equally dismissive about my post, I responded in kind.
Paul, I'd observe that your first comment back was in response to my saying of your post:
I don't believe to polarise people like this helps, nor is it really accurate ... phrases like "even remotely critical" just do not help imo.

I don't think that was dismissive in any way which should offend; I gave my opinion straight and not rudely, or sarcastically. I then replied to your following response to that in kind But you are right in saying

"Caryl's 'maturity and experience' means she doesn't need others to fight her corner"

I have been worse insulted by others

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