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Old 25 Jun 2012, 17:58   #58
The Flying Mouse
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Originally Posted by loaferman61 View Post
Starting off calling people passionate about Meat Loaf "haters" is rather odd.
This is my whole point.
The people of this forum are not haters.
We are here becuse (according to my deffinition of what a fan is) we are interested in Meat work, and it has brought us a great deal of pleasure.

Which makes me ask again, is it so wrong, so brown nosing, ass licking, sucking up to resist the urge to make a negative comment about the strengh of Meat's voice based on a youtube clip recorded on a phone?


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Originally Posted by loaferman61 View Post
The fact we are discussing here is that the "true" fans who have power made a rule that sought to suppress honest opinion, and went a step beyond to encourage you to comment if you thought something was great. You don't see the problem there?
I am not trying to suppress informed free speech (I feel like i'm at war crime trials here ) i'm asking that where there is doubt, give Meat the benefit of it rather than saying his voice is weak when you got your intel from youtube. The evidence available is about as reliable as wikipedia.


Again, perhaps it was a mistake to say it was OK to leave a positive comment.
I'm very very sorry for that.
I think we agree that I should have asked that no comments, good or bad, should be posted.


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Originally Posted by Burkeaholic View Post
Mouse who made this thread has shown in the past that he can be fair to both sides,
One does ones best


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Originally Posted by Burkeaholic View Post
But to directly answer your question, i don't see a problem with it because you can't properly judge from a YouTube video. The quality is crap and you weren't there. The whole thing has a totally different feel and sound at the show that can't be translated through a YouTube video.
It's took me posts longer than Steinman songs to try and make that point, but apparently i'm endangering peoples civil liberties, so good luck with that one

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Originally Posted by CarylB View Post
Personally I have never referred to anyone or group as "haters" and I think the term "true fan" is also a nonsense and one I never use. I see critical fans, I see supportive fans, I see some who are both.
I see factions, but I wouldn't call them "haters" or "true fans" either.



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Are we not all fans? Thus, "true" fans.
All except Fred
We sould gang up on him and beat him with large sticks.
Then I can suppress his freedom of speech
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