[CarylB]

Originally Posted by PanicLord

However as I say this is a very exceptional case, and in general there is simply no desire to have a gun for the vast majority of the population. I'm not aware of any campaign or desire to relax the gun ownership laws here, and believe that most people support the current setup.

I'd agree. And of course the case you mentioned involved a farmer, one of the group that may have a licenced shotgun in the home for dealing with the more usual vermin, provided it is kept securely locked away. The case was exceptional because if he hadn't been a farmer he'd have had to drive to his gunclub, where his gun would have to be kept And a man, who without doubt deserved to be locked away for a long time, would still be alive.

I make no criticism of your constitution or your support of the right to arm yourself, I simply make the point that we have freedom and overall have freely chosen not to bear arms.

Nor I. I just expressed a personal view that it baffles me why peaceable human beings would want to have and use guns, and that we in the UK do not consider our freedom compromised by our support of gun control. I didn't seek to change anyone else's view, just expressed my own

I find the idea of hunting any endangered species for fun and then claiming it's an act of charity because it feeds the locals sickening.

I cannot get behind killing any animal simply for a trophy to prove that you have done it. So called intelligent humans have made so many species extinct so they can brag to their peers about how clever they are to kill something so rare.

And this is the nub. Like you, I don't have an issue with domestic animals being raised and used for food, nor as pest control. But to me to hunt and kill wild animals that are in their natural habitat and endangering no-one, but are becoming endangered themselves .. that is not sport, nor can I condone it. I don't even condone the tearing of wild animals from their habitat and keeping them as pets either! There are apparently more tigers being kept as "pets" than there are in the wild and zoos.

I congratulate Camping World for having principles and sticking to them.

Me too. Whether or not they are motivated by concern for their image (and what prudent company is not?) I support their stance.

Caryl