[CarylB]

Rob, you have expressed your huge concern for what Meat is suffering as a result of the the way crap spreads and gathers momentum on the internet. Dave raised a very good point when Warrio started a thread, apparently without thinking about the possible fuel it could add to the brush fires which are, to use Meat's own words, breaking his heart, and seem to be close to breaking his indomitable spirit at times. That's at the forefront of everyone's mind.

You use the word "jump" as if people were rude rather than sadly disappointed .. to the point of exasperation. You've I'm sure said to Meat, feel free to vent. Allow us the same small and tired privilege.

"Small mistakes" can create major issues. Right now most of us are more concerned about Meat, what he's going through, and his feelings than about those of anyone else.

Andy has pointed out he has had into deal with this before, has had the same discussion about thread titles posted without thought to the consequences. Her's been fair, reasonable and has done what he can to minimise the potential damage done. Nothing of a God complex (which is imo a somewhat sweepingly impertinent comment in my view), and nothing out of order in anything he has posted. I may not always agree with every decision taken by the Moderation team here, but they are not rude, and always act with their proper level of authority, not that of God. And if any of us have any issue with their decisions or the way they post them it is a very clear rule of this forum, and a basic courtesy, to express this via PM, rather than question or criticise on the forum.

Meat has not deserved the incredible abuse he's currently suffering. Warrio has not been abused as far as I saw when I last visited the thread in question. Has his judgement been questioned? Yes. It's not the first time I think, and right now it's at the worst possible time for Meat. Doubtless it wasn't intended to add any fuel to the flames Meat's dealing with, and I think people accepted that and have made that clear. But if there's never any disapproval shown, no disappointment expressed, no questioning of poor judgement, what message does that convey? How will things ever change? We learn through error only when we have the error pointed out. Sometimes the error is repeated, and it is naive to expect it won't be pointed out again.

Thank you Andy for doing what you could to minimise the effect.

Caryl