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Originally Posted by AndrewG
You're so kind SuzieQ for calling me a "some disgruntled old timer fan", that is really nice of you. Those disgruntled old timer fans did help Meat Loaf get to where he is now. It's ironic to conclude that the attitude of some here and perhaps even Meat Loaf included on this matter is simply "well F*ck you if you don't like it"  |
Not sure why you are taking offense Andrew. It's a true statement. All old timer fans in general helped Meat Loaf get to where he is now. And as an artist he has elected to make HCTB which has left some disgruntled and some happy. The thing is the ones that became disgruntled have possibly realized that Meat isn't their cup of tea anymore. I think Meat's gotten all the memo's for those who didn't like HCTB or the songs particularly LAR and California. And yes, you may have to face the fact that Meat could possibly say "well F*ck you if you don't like it". Meat likes it, I think Meat has also got the memo's from the folks who love it and possibly, just possibly, there are more that love it than don't.
According to the poll above as of this time 0 people have voted No. 26 voted Yes and only 3 people voted they don't like the song. Now unless the disgruntled old timers have already jumped off the Meat Loaf train and no longer visit here because of their dislike of direction....this poll is not of the same opinion as yours Andrew.
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Originally Posted by AndrewG
Once again, the main point (which no-one except Sarge seems to be talking about, which is strange considering everyone thinks the lyrics are so great and "relevant" -sigh) I was trying to get across is that I think there is a difference between Meat cracking jokes; saying "F*ck you" to Patti at the end of Paradise, "F*ck it" occasionally etc and singing lyrics such as "And f*ck you when she's done". Using the word F*ck to describe sex is completely different than using it as an insult.
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But again no one voted NO in the poll no matter what the usage. I honestly believe that the way Meat Loaf "used" the word would change your opinion. I think it's a cop out. I think people are shocked he used it at all and are appalled that he recorded it. That is my opinion. The same who dislike LAR also do not like the song and do not like the album. It's not their bag. And I get that...and respect it. Did he lose old timer fans in the process? Yes, I believe he did. Did he make other old timer fans happy in the process? Yes, he did. Did he gain new fans in the process? Yes, he did.
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Seeing a "Fan" campaign trying to get the one song I find the most annoying to get to chart really disappoints me as I simply do not think it is a good representation of what Meat Loaf is all about. This song all seemed about shock or trying to be hip/cool whatever; yeah we will get Jack Black on this, make it the shortest song on the record and throw a "f*ck you when she's done" in there. Keep on blaming the record companies for low sales, keep calling me disgruntled, old timer all you want but I do not think this is right, it is not helping Meat and his image in my opinion and it is simply not "music" I want to listen to any more.  I care enough about everything that has gone before to try to explain myself, if that makes you hate me or my opinions, so be it. |
Thank you for your honest opinion, it doesn't make me hate you. Sorry the fan campaign song wasn't voted your way so you wouldn't be disappointed. BUT I suppose you could be disappointed in us all here for voting this way.